Sander K @ Space 10.22 roll call thread...

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Posted by nchs09 on Sep-09-2005 15:41:

Posted by bobba lou on Sep-09-2005 16:15:

too popish for me, ill pass

Posted by ctprincess on Sep-09-2005 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
too popish for me, ill pass

but bobby, christen and kristin are coming down

you have to at least stop by for a bit

Posted by bobba lou on Sep-09-2005 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ctprincess
but bobby, christen and kristin are coming down

you have to at least stop by for a bit

of course i'll go to hang with you guys.

Posted by UWM on Sep-09-2005 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
of course i'll go to hang with you guys.

that's right.

bitch.

Posted by ex-dj on Sep-09-2005 21:01:

oh the hatred...

a Sander show is all about having a good time, and every one i've been to has been a blast. if you can't get down with that you're probably too close-minded and generally not fun, so we don't want ya there anyway!

see everyone else on the terrace

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ex-dj
oh the hatred...

a Sander show is all about having a good time, and every one i've been to has been a blast. if you can't get down with that you're probably too close-minded and generally not fun, so we don't want ya there anyway!

see everyone else on the terrace

sur la terre it is james....another long day out there with the sander...cant fuckin wait...12th time for me....still gets better every time!!!!!

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 21:15:

well i have the right to my opinion.. :P and this is one thing I agree with DA on. I saw his video set on Sensation White 2004 and I thought it was total cheese. I even BOUGHT his single "The Fruit" (because of all the Sander hype going on in here) and it was one of the worst EDM releases ever.

good house and progressive = Sasha, James Holden, Digweed ect... Sander Kleinenburg is just the rebirth of chicago, disco house cheese, I don't see how this is anything progressive... it's like how the hiphoppers call the Black Eyed Peas progressive. timmeh!

Posted by xSweetnessx on Sep-09-2005 21:21:

i have yet to see him live no more..Sander K...(y)

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
well i have the right to my opinion.. :P and this is one thing I agree with DA on. I saw his video set on Sensation White 2004 and I thought it was total cheese. I even BOUGHT his single "The Fruit" (because of all the Sander hype going on in here) and it was one of the worst EDM releases ever.

good house and progressive = Sasha, James Holden, Digweed ect... Sander Kleinenburg is just the rebirth of chicago, disco house cheese, I don't see how this is anything progressive... it's like how the hiphoppers call the Black Eyed Peas progressive. timmeh!

bro r u serious...sander is progressive as hell..yah he throws in an eclectic mix of retro. funk. chunk, and even discoish tracks...but it is still progressive because it moves forward,not to mention that he plays alot of prog tracks as well...not just one genre blah and i must play this record b/c it is prog, or trance or house....he moves the sound wherever he wants henceforth he is a prog dj...if u have never seen him on the space terrace then u have NO idea whagt he can do...why do u think finnally all these peeps r starting to recognize what ive been about for two yrs now...the man knows how to rcok a party and he knows how to rock it for way longer than the traditional 3-5 hr trance dj...like james said if u cant get into sander then u have the most close minded way of thinking...but maybe u dont like him for other reasons, i dont know but from a musical standpoint and defintely from a "rock a party all day long standpoint", not many bring it like sander...

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by RzO
yah buddy...you know alot...hes more popular on this website cause he's BETTER, how bout them apples...and ur the fruit with ur homo ass tracks u make...doo doo doo doo...hey give me another gay synth line and ill puke..so now i am just being hoinest like u were about sander...go back to watching nickelodeon

and i have never once dl or listen to ur gay ass mixes so there....go figure

joo lose...sorry bud

point being dont come on here and bash real artists when u r just trying to become one urself bro...normally i would keep my comments to myself but unfortunately u messed up and tried the mighty Kleinenbeast!!!! better luck next year

heh okay... I'd rather hear a good emotional synthline than some cheesey disco crap. trance and good house is well good... disco and discohouse is well cheese and timmeh... nuff said. I'm not hating on sander, but I feel my post is justifiable since this is Trance Addict... not Houselovers.com therefore my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's and not "hatred".

I'm not saying for anyone to hate Sander and love my music, I'm just providing my opinion. It sucks that anybody can post their opinion about an artist here, and it's acceptable, while another artist/DJ can't post an opinion here because it's considered hating on, or being jealous.

Uhm I think you lose, because saying you've never listened to my "gayass" mixes while I've listened to tons of Sander, doesn't really construct a valid opinion on my music.

I'm not suggesting to NOT talk about Sander here, even though he isn't by far trance at all. I was just pointing out how Sander gets more hype on a trance forum than an actual trance artist like PvD, not providing rules on who you should or shouldn't talk about.

Sander's always bashing trance artists in various reviews in magazines, so why can't I a trance artist, bash him back? He accuses trance of being stuck in 1998, when I hear his music being stuck in 1986 chicago house, and trance moving on. If you don't like Tiesto or Paul or Armin, then check out other trance DJs and artist... heh you've got your very own Re-lick and grooveeric on this forum.

Posted by arnoldjch on Sep-09-2005 21:33:

Posted by verndogs on Sep-09-2005 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
I'm not suggesting to NOT talk about Sander here, even though he isn't by far trance at all. I was just pointing out how Sander gets more hype on a trance forum than an actual trance artist like PvD, not providing rules on who you should or shouldn't talk about.

Tranceaddict is really a misnomer. It really should be EDMaddict.

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
Tranceaddict is really a misnomer. It really should be EDMaddict.

Then let Swamper know about this, that way I can shut the fuck up. As for now it's still Trance Addict and my opinion still stands. If I posted this opinion on HouseAddict, then you can really flame my ass.

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
heh okay... I'd rather hear a good emotional synthline than some cheesey disco crap. trance and good house is well good... disco and discohouse is well cheese and timmeh... nuff said. I'm not hating on sander, but I feel my post is justifiable since this is Trance Addict... not Houselovers.com therefore my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's and not "hatred".

I'm not saying for anyone to hate Sander and love my music, I'm just providing my opinion. It sucks that anybody can post their opinion about an artist here, and it's acceptable, while another artist/DJ can't post an opinion here because it's considered hating on, or being jealous.

Uhm I think you lose, because saying you've never listened to my "gayass" mixes while I've listened to tons of Sander, doesn't really construct a valid opinion on my music.

I'm not suggesting to NOT talk about Sander here, even though he isn't by far trance at all. I was just pointing out how Sander gets more hype on a trance forum than an actual trance artist like PvD, not providing rules on who you should or shouldn't talk about.

Sander's always bashing trance artists in various reviews in magazines, so why can't I a trance artist, bash him back? He accuses trance of being stuck in 1998, when I hear his music being stuck in 1986 chicago house, and trance moving on. If you don't like Tiesto or Paul or Armin, then check out other trance DJs and artist... heh you've got your very own Re-lick and grooveeric on this forum.

understandable indeed...didnt really mean to bash so hard on ur mixes but i read the tl and see same monotonous trance which like sander says and i agree is very 1998...granted i went to pvd the other week and had an absolute blast but even pvd admits in an interview that trance records have started to suck hence he played alot of prog, tech infused trance stuff...and sander music is some of the most forward thinking shit out right now...it by itself proves to u why this "trance" site has waay more prog headz then trance anymore because the sound is changing...i totally respect u as an artist, because at least u r making edm and not some shit hop or gaygetton or whatever else is out there, it isnt my cup of tea but that doesent matter, and again i would NEVER say shit about someone music or anythign for that matter unless i was substantiating a point...just hard to hear soemone like that call sander fruity, it is a complete oxymoron...of course it will always just be a matter of opinion and i will respect that...

Posted by verndogs on Sep-09-2005 21:44:

I still find it funny that Sander called Tiesto kiddie music

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
I still find it funny that Sander called Tiesto kiddie music

i looove that quote..is this not true...u remeber my nickelodeon analogy right???

Posted by bobba lou on Sep-09-2005 21:45:

nah..the shit playing on my winamp is some of the most foward thinking shit not out right now. b0p!

Posted by verndogs on Sep-09-2005 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by RzO
i looove that quote..is this not true...u remeber my nickelodeon analogy right???

you damn right I do

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by RzO
understandable indeed...didnt really mean to bash so hard on ur mixes but i read the tl and see same monotonous trance which like sander says and i agree is very 1998...granted i went to pvd the other week and had an absolute blast but even pvd admits in an interview that trance records have started to suck hence he played alot of prog, tech infused trance stuff...and sander music is some of the most forward thinking shit out right now...it by itself proves to u why this "trance" site has waay more prog headz then trance anymore because the sound is changing...i totally respect u as an artist, because at least u r making edm and not some shit hop or gaygetton or whatever else is out there, it isnt my cup of tea but that doesent matter, and again i would NEVER say shit about someone music or anythign for that matter unless i was substantiating a point...just hard to hear soemone like that call sander fruity, it is a complete oxymoron...of course it will always just be a matter of opinion and i will respect that...

No it's not an oxymoron (oh yeah you're such a Sander fan... btw I was playing on the lyrics to his track "the Fruit"... maybe you haven't heard it already... so definately no oxymoron intent there).. trance no matter how emotional or cheesey can get will never be as fruity as disco and chicago-house. House is the staple music of the gay community, and I can't believe most houseaddicts fail to admit the truth (calling trance gay and house straight as hell), and I'm not a gay basher, I just speak the truth, and that's where house music history started and is rooted in.

well PvD is still trance and there's proof that trance is changing... it's merging with countless other genres in the very own productions and livesets. House is changing too and merging with other genres, but still I prefer the energy found in trance, not the disco rhythms in house. I don't know why these house artists come out of nowhere to bash trance when all it is a 70s or 80s disco 2 bar loop over and over again. Please trance is NOT monotonous when you compare it to house music.

and btw my sets are different in styles... yes I do some 1998 style trance ones, but check out my latest one vol6 http://www.gerrycueto.com/download.html lots of variety in there and never gets monotonous. Yes I too am realizing that trance is supposed to take you on a journey but most trance sets fail to do that, instead they take you in a journey in circles... well anyway vol6 unlike my last promos is a true journey, not a journey in circles.

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
I still find it funny that Sander called Tiesto kiddie music

well there you go... I wasn't lying when I said sander bashes trance and trance artists... and I for one as a trance artist, will defend whatever bullshit he insists on saying.

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
nah..the shit playing on my winamp is some of the most foward thinking shit not out right now. b0p!

lol...minimal only for le harold...jejeje

Posted by RzO on Sep-09-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
No it's not an oxymoron (oh yeah you're such a Sander fan... btw I was playing on the lyrics to his track "the Fruit"... maybe you haven't heard it already... so definately no oxymoron intent there).. trance no matter how emotional or cheesey can get will never be as fruity as disco and chicago-house. House is the staple music of the gay community, and I can't believe most houseaddicts fail to admit the truth (calling trance gay and house straight as hell), and I'm not a gay basher, I just speak the truth, and that's where house music history started and is rooted in.

well PvD is still trance and there's proof that trance is changing... it's merging with countless other genres in the very own productions and livesets. House is changing too and merging with other genres, but still I prefer the energy found in trance, not the disco rhythms in house. I don't know why these house artists come out of nowhere to bash trance when all it is a 70s or 80s disco 2 bar loop over and over again. Please trance is NOT monotonous when you compare it to house music.

and btw my sets are different in styles... yes I do some 1998 style trance ones, but check out my latest one vol6 http://www.gerrycueto.com/download.html lots of variety in there and never gets monotonous. Yes I too am realizing that trance is supposed to take you on a journey but most trance sets fail to do that, instead they take you in a journey in circles... well anyway vol6 unlike my last promos is a true journey, not a journey in circles.

link was messed up...i will give it a listen though if i can dl it...and i meant oxymoronic in the fact that u calling sander fruity when u produce what by some is considered fruity...all thigs aside we prolly have to agree to disagree on this one though...sander rocks u dont think so and that is really the end...put up a link that works then i can listen to ur new set...and the whole gay thing...i dont see the deal there that has no bearing on the sound of the musik

Posted by arturob on Sep-09-2005 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
that's right.

bitch.

we will be there

Posted by gerrycueto on Sep-09-2005 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by RzO
link was messed up...i will give it a listen though if i can dl it...and i meant oxymoronic in the fact that u calling sander fruity when u produce what by some is considered fruity...all thigs aside we prolly have to agree to disagree on this one though...sander rocks u dont think so and that is really the end...put up a link that works then i can listen to ur new set...and the whole gay thing...i dont see the deal there that has no bearing on the sound of the musik

http://www.gerrycueto.com/download.html

sorry there were "..."'s in the last post.

nope, i'll have to disagree... house has far more ability to be fruitier than anything trance (since house is the staple gay music like i said), no matter if it is as cheesey as Alice Deejay, it's still not as fruity as some of the house out there. "The Fruit" although it's not dead on 4 on the floor house, it's cheesier than any trance ever released... and I'd rather be listening to Dj Sammy over that shit.

Like I said I can't stop laughing when a househead goes out on a limb to tell me house is straight as fuck, while trance is gay and fruity... when they failed to look up the history on their own music. I mean yeah there is some brands of house that sounds "cooler" than some brands of trance, but as a whole... sorry trance wins the nonfruity competition =)

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