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Originally posted by VERTiG0 So uh how are they objects?

Better yet when where they the greatest empire on Earth !!!

I forgot about that great Persian Empire...

The Babylonians were one of the greatest empires of the ancient world. The city of Babylon, the capital, is better known as Baghdad today.

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Originally posted by Mr. Furious "Never discourage a man's progress, no matter how slow the journey" ~plato~

Something is better than nothing.

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Originally posted by Streamline The Babylonians were one of the greatest empires of the ancient world. The city of Babylon, the capital, is better known as Baghdad today.

Dude I studied history but thanks for the lesson anyways LOL

But agreed the key word is ancient times!!! But there where many other great empires too!!!

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Something is better than nothing.

but nothing is still something is it not.

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Originally posted by Streamline The Babylonians were one of the greatest empires of the ancient world. The city of Babylon, the capital, is better known as Baghdad today.

no way!!! the MOGHUL empire was the greatest and longest running empire in history

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Originally posted by nchs09 ur such a retarded fuk.

GO fuk urself with a spoon and then eat with it.

anyways

i go to iran every summer... It is soooo different from what people think in the west. people are changing. to give freedom to people who havnt seen freedom in 20 years is very dangerous, because they will surely abuse it. so the guvernment is slowly givin people lil by lil of freedom... We were once Known as the PERSIAN EMPIRE.
but thx to ARABS we are now known as the Terrorists.

Since WHEN ARE PERSIANS ARABS?????

p.s. haha sahand isnt that ur sister playing socceR??? LOOL jk

reza vs sahand part I

let's go biatches!!

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves hmmm i am wondering Tranceee ... if this so shameful to you and shits why did u have to make a thread and show to everyone who didnt see it? if i ever came across something shameful i wont show it to everyone and say hey look how shameful. thats just stupid. makes u no better than others. and personally i dont think there is anything wrong with this. i actually respect the fact that those women r playing soccer covered and stuff. they now have liberation they never had before. everyone bitches about women from islamic countries and how they dont have same rights as men but when they do get some rights such as playing soccer covered ppl still bitch. hmmm .

I brought it up to raise awareness. I'm not ashamed at all. those women who are part of the iranian soccer team are forced to wear those outfits regardless of their consent. Some may like it, some may not. THOSE who don't, should have the freedom to wear the TRADITIONAL soccer outfit (shorts + shirt).
THE ISSUE IS, GOVERNMENT'S SUCH AS IRAN'S where FREEDOM OF CHOICE IS MEANINGLESS.
EVEN ISLAM SAYS "people are free to chose their religion" .
To my understanding , the bible does not specify or DEMAND women to cover themselves from head to toe, NOT EVEN a scarf... HOWEVER, when cristians or forigners enter IRAN, they ARE FORCED to wear it inorder to avoid jail time.

TRADITION YOU MIGHT SAY ....

NO,


WHY ?

B/C it's forced upon PEOPLE ...






FIN

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess what the fuck does that have to do with soccer pictures?

UM relax ... read

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Originally posted by NuERA Before labeling something as degrading or disrespectful the viewpoint that it comes from needs to be acknowledged. Although you may be of Iranian decent, you are also male, live in a Western country and go to a Western University. As a Western society I don't believe we should try and alter laws in other countries to fit 'our' views of what is appropriate. If Western society wants to step-in I feel it should be to help organize these commuties at a grassroots level to help them attain the rights and freedoms they want.

LOL that was totally a will ferrel (in Old School) moment.


as for Religion and sport not going together. I agree. Theres LOTS of places that religion has no place imo, but its still there.

I remember doing a report on religion and sport in HS. cant remember it really other then its definately there and effects many people in good and bad ways.

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves hmmm i am wondering Tranceee ... if this so shameful to you and shits why did u have to make a thread and show to everyone who didnt see it? if i ever came across something shameful i wont show it to everyone and say hey look how shameful. thats just stupid. makes u no better than others. and personally i dont think there is anything wrong with this. i actually respect the fact that those women r playing soccer covered and stuff. they now have liberation they never had before. everyone bitches about women from islamic countries and how they dont have same rights as men but when they do get some rights such as playing soccer covered ppl still bitch. hmmm .

Dont you see why these pics are a problem? The government of IRan is more concerned with what they are wearing than how they play. This is a disgusting symbol of how wrong islam is. These women are FORCED to dress like this.

Lets not even get into the fact that we should be happy theya re even allowed to play.. it is universally accepted that it would be wrong to deny women to play any sport.

Why cant MEN cover themselves up like these women?

Fuckin terrorists

i think its time Bush sent his troops into Iran and took over the government...

this has gone too far....i cant live in peace here as their functioning is disturbing me

IRAN won 7-0 agaist bahrain ... HOW THE fak did fifa allow this anyway?!

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE IRAN won 7-0 agaist bahrain ... HOW THE fak did fifa allow this anyway?!

U're right. What assholes...they should've stopped it at 4-nil... have they no hearts.

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE the quran also says BEAT your wife if she disobeys you .. its in the women SURAH ... i need to look up and see which line. then i guess if the quran says it , we have to do it !!!

no it doesnt.
read it again or go talk to a muslim Scholar.
theres no women beating involved.
thats just something the kkk made up.
btw are u Related to Irshad Manji?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Dont you see why these pics are a problem? The government of IRan is more concerned with what they are wearing than how they play. This is a disgusting symbol of how wrong islam is. These women are FORCED to dress like this. Lets not even get into the fact that we should be happy theya re even allowed to play.. it is universally accepted that it would be wrong to deny women to play any sport. Why cant MEN cover themselves up like these women? Fuckin terrorists

lolz i cud sit here and argue with ur dumbass about religions all day and all night but ur too dense to understand i beleieve so i wont bother with it. i dont see u jumping guns about christian priests and shits when they go around fawkin 12 yr old boyz but oh well.

and as for your terrorists comment hmmm when west goes and attacks them for no reason its war but when they attack the west its terrorists. lmao rite on .

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Dont you see why these pics are a problem? The government of IRan is more concerned with what they are wearing than how they play. This is a disgusting symbol of how wrong islam is. These women are FORCED to dress like this. Lets not even get into the fact that we should be happy theya re even allowed to play.. it is universally accepted that it would be wrong to deny women to play any sport. Why cant MEN cover themselves up like these women? Fuckin terrorists

hey, Cyrus King

As sad as this is, I think it's really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Islam's mistreatment of women.

It's actually shocking to me how so many self-described feminists will look the other way when it comes to this particular issue. Apparently it's okay to beat, rape, and kill women as long as you're not caucasian (at least that's the precedent set by the OJ Simpson trial)...

Ok, I'm being unnecessarily cynical there, but I would really like to see the feminists spend less time griping about pay scales and more time paying attention to the real issues confronting women today.

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Originally posted by BrownTA4Life no it doesnt. read it again or go talk to a muslim Scholar. theres no women beating involved. thats just something the kkk made up. btw are u Related to Irshad Manji?

SURAH IV
ayet 34.

men are the maintainers of women b/c allah has made some of them excel others and b/c they spend out of their property. the good women are therefore obedient, gaurding the unseen as allah has gurded ( i think "they" or "god" is refering to a womans genitals); and as to those on whose part you fear desertion, ADMONISH THEM, AND LEAVE THEM ALONE IN SLEEPING PLACES and BEAT THEM ; THEN if they obey you do not seek a way against them; surely allah is high, great.

yes I'm KKK !!!
and no I'm not pakistani

wont somebody think of the children

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE FREAKING CHILDREN

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE

^^^ BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE UM relax ... read

ha ha

maybe you should start making sense in your connections.

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE SURAH IV ayet 34. men are the maintainers of women b/c allah has made some of them excel others and b/c they spend out of their property. the good women are therefore obedient, gaurding the unseen as allah has gurded ( i think "they" or "god" is refering to a womans genitals); and as to those on whose part you fear desertion, ADMONISH THEM, AND LEAVE THEM ALONE IN SLEEPING PLACES and BEAT THEM ; THEN if they obey you do not seek a way against them; surely allah is high, great. yes I'm KKK !!! and no I'm not pakistani

Thank you for reinforcing my point. I have read this time and time again. Women are SUBORDINATE in islam, let alone all religions. But Islam in particular facilitates the notion that men are the owners of women.

I will never respect anyone who abholds this rule in islam. What a backwards ideology

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