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i didnt quote that because he said he likes eminem, if he thinks eminem is good there aint much i do about that

but he made quite a contradiction by saying he detests "the commercial shit kids listen to" and then lists eminem and casual brothers as true hiphop and good artists.

i agree with him that kanye west sucks though, but why even mention him in a thread about true hiphop?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I dig Main Source...but i wouldnt consider them to be icons or anything....they had their 15 minutes though.

heh. just because breaking atoms was waaay slept on when it was released doesnt make it less classic.

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Originally posted by n0bben aesop rock? not really...

Yes, really. Especially his Labor Days album produced mostly by Blockhead is worth checking out.

My list goes as follows:

Aesop Rock
MF Doom (Madvillian, Viktor Vaughn)
RJD2
The Herbaliser
Roots Manuva
EL-P
People Under The Stairs
Dj Shadow
Dj Krush
Mr.Lif
Blockhead

Can't think of any more atm.

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Originally posted by Lepanto Hip-hop, not rap, is a movement, praising Africanism, graffiti, skateboarding, etc. Artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, A tribe called Quest, De La Soul, Common (although it seems like he's selling out nowdays), all portray the skill that hip hop is.

Talib Kweli is performing at my university in a few days

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Originally posted by Lepanto he thinks eminem is good music lol

and what? people have different opinions. eminem is a talented guy, like it or not.. i cant stand his voice but hes a very good lyricist. his latest stuff is funny, hes incorporating humour into his tracks instead of just boasting on about bling bling, hoes and rides, fair play to him, hes having a good time, i enjoy some of his recent tracks, they are quite entertaining!

Eminem
Lady Sovereign
Average White Band
Goldie Looking Chain

YO YO YO my bruthas tru hip-hop can only be created by black people. Hip hop is for the black people. What you hear are a bunch of whitewashed niggies who sold out for a mansion and lots of money. They are confusing lots of listeners with thier messages of greed and women hatred. Hip Hop is meant to be poetry of life and how rough/beautiful it is. Kinda like emo but not reallly all the time bitching about life.

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Originally posted by n0bben i didnt quote that because he said he likes eminem, if he thinks eminem is good there aint much i do about that but he made quite a contradiction by saying he detests "the commercial shit kids listen to" and then lists eminem and casual brothers as true hiphop and good artists.

really i didn't see that coming?

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle and what? people have different opinions. eminem is a talented guy, like it or not.. i cant stand his voice but hes a very good lyricist. his latest stuff is funny, hes incorporating humour into his tracks instead of just boasting on about bling bling, hoes and rides, fair play to him, hes having a good time, i enjoy some of his recent tracks, they are quite entertaining!

says you? his recent stuff is shit when he tried to go all political and anti-bush. he writes about some nonsense. everyone i know who was heavily into him hates him which is dozens of people, so i think that might say something.

same thing with his "just lose it" video where it was banned from BET and people were protesting against him for his "tasteless low-blow to Micheal Jackson".

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Originally posted by Psionic Talib Kweli is performing at my university in a few days

lucky beyond belief!

kweli has gone a bit shit latest years though

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Originally posted by n0bben kweli has gone a bit shit latest years though

his last album was a pathetic attempt at commercialism. Mos Def however still owns him.

can't say i was too fond of the new danger either.. not when compared to black on both sides anyways

I have alot of respect for common. He's very talented.

If I was to listen to any white lyricists, I would choose The Streets or even old Vanilla Ice over Eminem. I can't stand the guy or his music.

Now that I think of it, I can't even recall any other white lyricists

oh nevermind...

http://www.wiggaz.com/

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Originally posted by Estella Now that I think of it, I can't even recall any other white lyricists

I can think of three off the top of my head. If you look outside of the US you'll find tons of them tho.

El-P
Necro
Eyedea

hahaa wow. I've never heard of any of those. Thanks

Edit: Let's throw Will Smith in there, too.

The Streets is more chav-hop than hip-hop

I like the group Orishas alot. Here's a brief overview.

While North American rap drowns in its own clich�s, international artists are invigorating the genre with their own musical traditions. The Orishas, a Cuban group based in France, use Afro-Cuban religion to summon the spirit of hip-hop. Named for gods of Santeria, they came together in 1998 when members Yotuel and Ruzzo hooked up with Roldan and Flaco-Pro (a veteran of Sergeant Garcia) through a cultural exchange program between French and Cuban rappers. Collaborating with French hip-hop producer Miko Niko, they bring the attitude of Havana streets to the rest of the world, appealing to the Buena Vista Social Club crowd as well as the hip-hop heads. On their debut, A lo Cubano, the song "537 C.U.B.A." (their remake of Compay Segundo's "Chan Chan") gives new meaning to the term "old school." And the sound of sacred Santeria beats and traditional son weaving through sharp-edged lyrical attacks with groove-heavy bass and drum tracks on tunes like "Represent," "Atenci�n," and "Atrevido" make for a cool joyride through the back streets of Havana. --Jesse "Chuy" Varela

Here's samples to "A lo Cubano"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=music

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Originally posted by mark_the_gooner The Streets is more chav-hop than hip-hop

Chav-hop? I don't understand...

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Originally posted by Estella Chav-hop? I don't understand...

*sigh*

Take note ladies and gentlemen: UK lingo is lost on US citizens 60% of the time, and vice versa. Here's a handy reference: http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/index.htm

chav Noun. A person, usually of working class origin, generally poorly educated, often very casually dressed in sportswear and wearing vulgar jewellery. Derog.

Why feel the need to reply to my posts if it's such a chore?

A chav is our everyday rapper then What's the difference? The dress?

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Originally posted by Estella Why feel the need to reply to my posts if it's such a chore? A chav is our everyday rapper then What's the difference? The dress?

The *sigh* was directed at guy who posted "chav-hop" and assumed the term was common knowledge, not you. Don't worry, if I thought replying to your posts was a chore, I wouldn't bother.

You want a crazy white rapper, look for RA The Rugged Man. That guy is loooooney tooons, literally.












I just hope he isn't reading this....

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Originally posted by Estella If I was to listen to any white lyricists, I would choose The Streets or even old Vanilla Ice over Eminem. I can't stand the guy or his music. Now that I think of it, I can't even recall any other white lyricists

hello0o beastie boys

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Originally posted by Lepanto hello0o beastie boys

For reals.

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