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Posted by ekul on Nov-18-2005 02:03:
Maybe Paul did read it, http://www.residentadvisor.net/review_view.asp?id= 3371
In it he says: the thing that "Turns you off: People commenting on us and what we do. We give so much." and have read the questions from tc and it looks to be a decent interview for once.......
Posted by punjabi on Nov-18-2005 03:49:
he could deny all interviews for any source for all i care, as long as he keeps blowing my mind every time i see him live.
Posted by DreamTitan on Nov-18-2005 04:59:
Here are some of the questions for the interview submitted by the community. Please keep in mind that not all questions where used that had been submitted and some were edited.
http://www.trancecritic.com/modules...viewtopic&t=608
Posted by Axolotyl on Nov-18-2005 05:26:
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Originally posted by Demoted
It's called an opinion. No opinion is right, no opinion is wrong. |
lol. no, its a shit review. Complaining about the bassline in full on is like saying "this trance track has supersaws... it sucks" Not to mention he uses the word "farty noise" The guy even admits he doesnt like that genre, so why fucking review it? Some killer tracks on that album.
Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-18-2005 05:36:
This doesn't surprise me. PVD and others at his level didn't get to where they are by associating themselves w/ (debatable) negative reviews. I feel for you S-J, but it's not surprising, and a logical course of action for PVD and/or his team. 
Posted by Durrrtysouth on Nov-18-2005 07:03:
poor choice by TC to have him review it. If they want to use PVD to draw people to their website, then at least use someone who is going to look favorably at the CD. I blame TC, not the reviewer. He had his opinions and made them know. TC made the mistake by putting him on the review.
Bottom line, thats the music biz. Welcome to it TC!
Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-18-2005 08:22:
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Originally posted by Axolotyl
lol. no, its a shit review. Complaining about the bassline in full on is like saying "this trance track has supersaws... it sucks" Not to mention he uses the word "farty noise" The guy even admits he doesnt like that genre, so why fucking review it? Some killer tracks on that album. |
Nothing wrong with some "fart noises" but when a track consists only of that same sound I can't help but bang my head against the wall. The basslines are an integral part of a song - if they suck, they pull the track down.
I like psy. Now, the reason I reviewed this was that it is marketed as "psytrance" which it clearly is not - trust me, I'm not making the mistake again.
And what are these "Killer tracks"? As I said in the review you might like it if you haven't heard the genre before and/or gotten spammed with it the latest two years.
Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-18-2005 08:26:
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
To be honest, there are only so many ways of saying "this track is unoriginal and boring". I was going to compromise more, but I genuinely didn't enjoy a lot of it, and the review reflects my feelings of frustration at witnessing a potentially great mix sell itself short. |
that's what i'm trying to get at. maybe his management team figured you might ask him some negative or provocative questions... they couldn't say for sure so they're just playing it safe.
Posted by Axolotyl on Nov-18-2005 08:52:
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Originally posted by DJ Cinos
I like psy. Now, the reason I reviewed this was that it is marketed as "psytrance" which it clearly is not - trust me, I'm not making the mistake again. |
Yes it is psytrance. The genre encompasses all sorts of styles from dark and experimental to light and fluffy. This album is definately the latter.
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Originally posted by DJ Cinos
And what are these "Killer tracks"? As I said in the review you might like it if you haven't heard the genre before and/or gotten spammed with it the latest two years. |
-- Misted Muppet - Snarling Sraw
The theming and synth programming in this is fucking excellent. Dark as shit full on really. The fairy tale style melodies at the start.. wikked?! Christ the misted mupped lead alone is unique and worth a mention.
-- Oforia - Northern Lights
Dude, classic track! Dont really know how you can say this track has the same bassline as the other ones. Its got more of a progressive feel than full on really and the bassline is really subdued. If you want to hear full-on cheese, try the GMS rmx of it.
-- Rinkadink vs DJ Spencer - Spektral Monkey (Broken Toy Remix)
Again, wicked synth programming in this track. Its just twisted stuff, I really liked it. Again... Rinkadink + Broken Toy = tough south african basslines. I cant believe you didnt find atleast this bass differnt from the others.
The Dynamo track is pretty good too and Mr Peciliar produces some of the most original full on I've heard. This track isnt his best, but he has a very original style.
I just felt like you dissed the entire album on the basis of your feeling towards full on. There were so many other aspects of the tracks you could have focused on and you just kept coming back to... "boring bassline" Seriously, if your that bored with an album, pick another one that actually inspires you. Its not like there arnt about a hundred other releases you could have chosen and actually produced an inspired review on something you might have recommended.
Dont get me wrong, there's places for critical reviews. I liked your IM and Shpongle ones and they were pretty much on the money, but this one just didnt seem to have much basis for reference. Sorry!
Posted by Buddhistics on Nov-18-2005 08:59:
Yeah yeah yeah..
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Originally posted by Mebot
True but as long as he sells out(pun not intended) wherever he goes and sells CDs and stuff, then I don't think a poor review of his new album is going to be any sweat off his back.... |
Exactly. Which is why he should have no problem in giving the interview. And while most of you guys are slamming S-J's review, remember that PVD had a perfect oppurtunity to rebut it had he given the interview. Those of you that don't like or agree with the review have said so and given your reasons. PVD didn't. And if he had agreed to do the interview before, then pulling out like this is just stupid.
Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-18-2005 09:14:
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Originally posted by Axolotyl
Yes it is psytrance. The genre encompasses all sorts of styles from dark and experimental to light and fluffy. This album is definately the latter. |
Well, it depends. Fullon has deviated pretty far from the original psytrance, perhaps far enough to be a separate genre. Epic trance for example has naught in common with "classic" trance, and some people don't acknowlegde it as such. All depends on your definition.
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Originally posted by Axolotyl
-- Misted Muppet - Snarling Sraw
The theming and synth programming in this is fucking excellent. Dark as shit full on really. The fairy tale style melodies at the start.. wikked?! Christ the misted mupped lead alone is unique and worth a mention. |
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Originally posted by Axolotyl
I just felt like you dissed the entire album on the basis of your feeling towards full on. There were so many other aspects of the tracks you could have focused on and you just kept coming back to... "boring bassline" Seriously, if your that bored with an album, pick another one that actually inspires you. Its not like there arnt about a hundred other releases you could have chosen and actually produced an inspired review on something you might have recommended.
Dont get me wrong, there's places for critical reviews. I liked your IM and Shpongle ones and they were pretty much on the money, but this one just didnt seem to have much basis for reference. Sorry! |
This reviews was really an exception - there's a bit of a story behind why I reviewed it, but don't worry, it's not happening again. I admit I referenced to the boring basslines a bit too much, but ack, we all have our less productive days.
Glad you liked the other reviews though. Perhaps you'll like my review of Khetzal - Corolle too... it'll be done rather soon - and in that one we have some nice basslines.
Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-18-2005 10:27:
LOL if that is not psytrance then what is it?

Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-18-2005 11:27:
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Originally posted by RebeL9
LOL if that is not psytrance then what is it?
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Full on is about as psytrance as epic is "normal" trance.
Which I'm not saying it isn't, but...
Posted by Pete K on Nov-18-2005 13:48:
Welcome to the music industry. I can probably tell you that it wasn't Paul's decision to not interview, but his PR people. I wouldn't take it personally, I've been turned down many a times for interviews. It's usuallly management/pr people that say no.
Posted by stren on Nov-18-2005 14:31:
what a douchebag
Posted by DreamTitan on Nov-18-2005 16:21:
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Originally posted by Omega_Blue
that's what i'm trying to get at. maybe his management team figured you might ask him some negative or provocative questions... they couldn't say for sure so they're just playing it safe. |
No, he recieved the questions way before the review had been posted. As a matter of fact maybe a few of the questions where related to the album itself, it was a general interview to an artists and not an interview concerning his latest release. Maybe this was the problem, maybe not. Paul told me to send the question through his manager first, which I did. Afterward he then agreed to answer the questions, keep in mind this was before the DJ mag poll results were in. I understand he is a busy guy and i'm not taking it personal but I feel bad teasing some of the members at the Tc forums with this interview and then having him(or his management) backout - makes me feel like an ass.
Posted by Subtle on Nov-18-2005 16:26:
i think van Dyk and his crew saw trancecritics as an unserious site..
cant really blame him, based on that review, sometimes its best to not say anything if u dont like it..
I once sent a mail to L.Vee about how i thought his music lacked in comparance to his earlier work etc.. gave him small reviews of the tracks i loved, and didnt like.. i realised it was totally stupid thing to do... he replied shortly "then stick to M.I.K.E and stop dumping shit on me"
and btw.. trance.nu is up for interviewing Paul van Dyk 
Posted by surfrgal on Nov-18-2005 16:43:
I doubt PVD knows anything about this. It would be the decision of his management/press people.
Chances are that they answer his written interviews for the smaller outlets too.
Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-18-2005 17:01:
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Originally posted by Subtle
and btw.. trance.nu is up for interviewing Paul van Dyk |
Yeah... and their review of TPOD2 is complete suck-uppityness all the way through. A full 5 out of 5? Laughable.
Just check this about The Other Side:
Hear the track though, and Paul has managed to give it a tech trancey vibe simply with the pace at which he plays the record. This just serves to illustrate what a visionary DJ Paul is.
I mean like
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Posted by Swamper on Nov-18-2005 17:07:

Thread closed - I've seen the same points rehashed enough times.
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