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-- 12/9/05 Johan Gielen, Kazell & Gil La at Club Heaven
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Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

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Originally posted by philippe And that's really admirable, Kristina. Believe me, we ALL appreciate your hard work over the last few years to expand the L.A. trance scene--sincerely, me first. So I would expect someone with that kind of motivation to be supportive of others' efforts to do the same. To say that some promoters should stop throwing events because they are not of big enough a scale for you seems a bit extreme when you think about it: Surely you didn't start at the level where you are at now?... I thought that our community was supposed to be about sharing our passion for EDM, something that has brought a lot of very different people together for the best; not about pursuing personal vendettas. I understand that you (and others) need to get things off your chests, but does anyone else here really care, or has not already heard the story over and over again? I am not saying that you may not do it, but I think that it is actually accomplishing the opposite of your objective; namely, turning a number of people off from the scene. Especially in the last couple of weeks, this is the feedback that I have gotten from many TA lurkers who came up to thank me spontaneously at various events. Like a very wise man watching from across the Atlantic wrote, there is room for more than one club in our area on any given day. You may not like Club Heaven for personal reasons--that are none of our business--but does that justify trying to take it away from the hundreds of people who do happen to enjoy it week after week? If Club Heaven is so bad, then it will eventually go out of business like the others you mentioned. Is is really necessary for you (and others) to actively precipitate its potential demise (other than for personal gain or vengeful satisfaction)? Instead, I want to invite you (and your associates) to really show your love for the music and bringing people together by letting it be. Please, for all the fans who just want to have a good time as often as they can with some variety in their options

There is nothing admirable about club heaven. They do not care for their customers.
I tried to back off this whole thing, as I am sure you noticed, but for some reason you and Bob want to keep digging things back up.

Instead of directing your messages at me, why dont you direct them to the root of the problem instead, your buddies. Its amazing to me that you can sit there and speak of how negative I am, and then not admit it about the very people you surround yourself with.

Both of you preach and preach about keeping personal matters of TA. I have been doing just that, and look what you guys stir up. It seems to me you enjoy the conflict. And you certainly arent following ANY of your own advice, which is really hypocritical.

I am supposed to let people just bash me, just because I am a DJ in the public eye? Thats BS. Criticism, constructive or not, is one thing, BASHING w/ no just cause, is another.

I have an event to get ready for, so you guys go ahead and carry on this argument without me.

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Originally posted by Shafer8 Doesn't everyone steal music from others and when your first start off pre plan your sets? I steal music all day long especially if you like it. Stealing as we speak!

I have receipts for my music.....

lol

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Originally posted by Shafer8 Doesn't everyone steal music from others and when your first start off pre plan your sets? I steal music all day long especially if you like it. Stealing as we speak!

Not everyone, no.
And no, I never preplanned my sets when I started off or now. If I was going to do that I might as well put in a CD for people to hear and just go out on the floor and dance with them! Not to mention, that when I was starting out, I did not book myself to headline events. I paid my dues, and god knows still am. Gotta long way to go...

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Shafer, at least you ADMIT IT.

Re: Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

Oh look at miss kristina...she has been wronged again...

Oh no...now she is being the bigger person by letting it drop....

Oh why her, why does everyone always do stuff to her...

Poor miss kristina.

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Originally posted by djskyhigh There is nothing admirable about club heaven. They do not care for their customers. I tried to back off this whole thing, as I am sure you noticed, but for some reason you and Bob want to keep digging things back up. Instead of directing your messages at me, why dont you direct them to the root of the problem instead, your buddies. Its amazing to me that you can sit there and speak of how negative I am, and then not admit it about the very people you surround yourself with. Both of you preach and preach about keeping personal matters of TA. I have been doing just that, and look what you guys stir up. It seems to me you enjoy the conflict. And you certainly arent following ANY of your own advice, which is really hypocritical. I am supposed to let people just bash me, just because I am a DJ in the public eye? Thats BS. Criticism, constructive or not, is one thing, BASHING w/ no just cause, is another. I have an event to get ready for, so you guys go ahead and carry on this argument without me.

I honestly know alot of people that plan their sets. maybe not plan them to the tee but at least have something set up in a few ways incase the crowd is not feeling it.

I still would like to know how you exactly steal music from someone. If liking what others are playing and you wanting that track for your self to play is stealing, then I think he is not alone.

Please clarify stealing?


Also not trying to start shit here just wanting to understand as you know I love you!

Re: Re: Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

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Originally posted by Bob_Motamedi Oh look at miss kristina...she has been wronged again... Oh no...now she is being the bigger person by letting it drop.... Oh why her, why does everyone always do stuff to her... Poor miss kristina.

Oh sorry, was your recent birthday your 36th? or 37th? ....

LMAO

For someone who is on the Heaven team, you sure are filling the thread with a lot of bullshit.

For the record to anyone reading this thread. I offered Bob the chance to remove his posts and I said I would do the same. But he refuses. Not only does he refuse, but as you can see he keeps at it.

Wait, what was this thread about again?

Microsoft EXCEL FOR-THE-WIN!

Oh and by the way,

The only person that has ever said anything negative about Djing to any dj in L.A. is you..

I can gather up all the quotes you have said about everyone and post them if you like?

Also...I didnt know that you were the person that checked when someone had payed their dues in L.A. I didnt know it was a union and there were dues to pay.

Next time Ill bring my membership card and hope I can reach up to your high and mighty loft to hand it to you.

Re: Re: Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

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Originally posted by Bob_Motamedi Oh look at miss kristina...she has been wronged again... Oh no...now she is being the bigger person by letting it drop.... Oh why her, why does everyone always do stuff to her... Poor miss kristina.

Guys, a lot of people, including me, like you both, and it's frustrating to see this going on. This isn't solving anything.

Besides, there are more important things to argue about. Such as whether N body codes such as Mercury 6 can be used to accurately model the accretion of planetesimals, modeled as having zero mass, onto a protoplanet since the gravitational field within the Hill radius of the protoplanet is dominated by the protoplanet itself ...OR...whether N body codes are insufficient as they fail to take into account the gravitational stirring of planetesimals by themselves which lead to collisions, a fundamental change in the mass (and thus velocity) spectrum of the planetesimals and which may allow the accretion of shear-dominated, as opposed to dispersion dominated, plantesimals to ...well, dominate, driving down the formation timescale for said protoplanets. I mean, c'mon, that's on everyone's mind here at work at least :P

Re: Re: Re: Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

You are right.

this isnt worth my time.

She isnt worth my time.

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Originally posted by DJ Kenosis Guys, a lot of people, including me, like you both, and it's frustrating to see this going on. This isn't solving anything. Besides, there are more important things to argue about. Such as whether N body codes such as Mercury 6 can be used to accurately model the accretion of planetesimals, modeled as having zero mass, onto a protoplanet since the gravitational field within the Hill radius of the protoplanet is dominated by the protoplanet itself ...OR...whether N body codes are insufficient as they fail to take into account the gravitational stirring of planetesimals by themselves which lead to collisions, a fundamental change in the mass (and thus velocity) spectrum of the planetesimals and which may allow the accretion of shear-dominated, as opposed to dispersion dominated, plantesimals to ...well, dominate, driving down the formation timescale for said protoplanets. I mean, c'mon, that's on everyone's mind here at work at least :P

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Originally posted by Bob_Motamedi Also...I didnt know that you were the person that checked when someone had payed their dues in L.A. I didnt know it was a union and there were dues to pay. Next time Ill bring my membership card and hope I can reach up to your high and mighty loft to hand it to you.

you are just so clever and witty so cute when you get mad
No union, but if you wanna start one, I'll nominate you as the treasurer.

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Originally posted by Shafer8 I honestly know alot of people that plan their sets. maybe not plan them to the tee but at least have something set up in a few ways incase the crowd is not feeling it. I still would like to know how you exactly steal music from someone. If liking what others are playing and you wanting that track for your self to play is stealing, then I think he is not alone. Please clarify stealing?

I agree, one time I saw armin 3 shows in a row and the first 30-45 minutes was EXACTLY the same. track for track, phrase for phrase.

As far as stealing... simple. you walk into a record store and take it without paying or if a dj has their record bag there, you take a few pieces or the whole thing. that is stealing..... or you just take someones laptop/pc that has all the mp3's in it.

steal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stl)
v. stole, (stl) sto�len, (stln) steal�ing, steals
v. tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
2. To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully: steal a kiss; stole the ball from an opponent.
3. To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
4. To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by being the outstanding performer: The magician's assistant stole the show with her comic antics.
5. Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild pitch.

All I want for christmas is my 2 front teeth....

Hi Guys!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: off topic -- open "letter" to Kristina Sky

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Originally posted by Bob_Motamedi You are right. this isnt worth my time. She isnt worth my time.

physics of planet formation *is* worth your time, though. You can read all about it heremy paper and here paper of Peter Goldreich: astrophysics god

Good luck to Heaven tonight. Gil good luck on your set.
Johan will be sure to drop some sickies.

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Besides, there are more important things to argue about. Such as whether N body codes such as Mercury 6 can be used to accurately model the accretion of planetesimals, modeled as having zero mass, onto a protoplanet since the gravitational field within the Hill radius of the protoplanet is dominated by the protoplanet itself ...OR...whether N body codes are insufficient as they fail to take into account the gravitational stirring of planetesimals by themselves which lead to collisions, a fundamental change in the mass (and thus velocity) spectrum of the planetesimals and which may allow the accretion of shear-dominated, as opposed to dispersion dominated, plantesimals to ...well, dominate, driving down the formation timescale for said protoplanets. I mean, c'mon, that's on everyone's mind here at work at least :P

Thats some shit you learned in school that you will never use.

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As far as stealing... simple. you walk into a record store and take it without paying or if a dj has their record bag there, you take a few pieces or the whole thing. that is stealing..... or you just take someones laptop/pc that has all the mp3's in it.

Was she meaning actual stealing as in taking with out paying or simply copying the music others were playing.

Still trying to get to the bottom of this LOL

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Originally posted by Shafer8 Thats some shit you learned in school that you will never use.

Nonsense It was the topic I addressed in my paper. There are actually quite a few papers dealing with this as the formation of Uranus and Neptune is still an outstanding problem in planet formation theory. The lack of a solution has lead several people to come up with an alternative model for forming giant planets called the 'disk instability' model. There are major problems with this model too, so I've been more interested to see if the standard 'core accretion' scenario could be modified to account for the formation of distant, giant planets like Neptune. I'm pretty sure it does, though my attempt at a solution is probably still scratching the surface of what the real answer is.

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Originally posted by DJ Kenosis Nonsense It was the topic I addressed in my paper. There are actually quite a few papers dealing with this as the formation of Uranus and Neptune is still an outstanding problem in planet formation theory. The lack of a solution has lead several people to come up with an alternative model for forming giant planets called the 'disk instability' model. There are major problems with this model too, so I've been more interested to see if the standard 'core accretion' scenario could be modified to account for the formation of distant, giant planets like Neptune. I'm pretty sure it does, though my attempt at a solution is probably still scratching the surface of what the real answer is.

My question is......


Huh?

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here are actually quite a few papers dealing with this as the formation of Uranus and Neptune is still an outstanding problem in planet formation theory. The lack of a solution has

I too have done quite alot of research about how when I stick my Pluto in some womans Uranus and then start grabbing her Neptunes while she screams for the stars. Then while I start licking her Moon while she plays with my Jupiter in a prestigeous fashion will only but surely bring the Halleys comet hundreds of miles per hour from my Pluto.

Top that!

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Originally posted by Bob_Motamedi My question is...... Huh?

Well, it *is* a serious issue in astronomy right now. People get all mean and personal over this. Trust me, I've witnessed the brawls, even participated in a few of them .

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Originally posted by Shafer8 I too have done quite alot of research about how when I stick my Pluto in some womans Uranus and then start grabbing her Neptunes while she screams for the stars. Then while I start licking her Moon while she plays with my Jupiter in a prestigeous fashion will only but surely bring the Halleys comet hundreds of miles per hour from my Pluto. Top that!

does she make rings around Uranus too?

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Originally posted by Shafer8 I too have done quite alot of research about how when I stick my Pluto in some womans Uranus and then start grabbing her Neptunes while she screams for the stars. Then while I start licking her Moon while she plays with my Jupiter in a prestigeous fashion will only but surely bring the Halleys comet hundreds of miles per hour from my Pluto. Top that!

I dont think anyone can! LOL LOL You are f'n funny Shafer

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Originally posted by DJFaded I agree, one time I saw armin 3 shows in a row and the first 30-45 minutes was EXACTLY the same. track for track, phrase for phrase. All I want for christmas is my 2 front teeth.... Hi Guys!

And this is why armin is boring imo.

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Originally posted by ksu1212 Hi there, i just moved to socal recently and there are great djs playing here. i want to ask what is the dress code for clubbing in LA? for example if i want to go avalon this satarday to see dave seamen or to see johan gielen at heaven, will a pair of pumas, a jeans and a regular shirt do or they won't let me in unless i am wearing half my closet for a techno night? i mean i am going to dance not to impress. please let me know. cheers.

Just please do not wear/bring:

* Homemade tshirts glorifying any DJ
* Candy Raver Wear (if you're over 16)
* Homemade signs, including hearts, "Play XXXX", John 3:16. This isn't the WWE.

still off topic...

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