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would smoking a doobie with a few of your friends before or during your night out be considred taking " drugs " ? i dont mean to start the weed is drug ... weed is not a drug war, but this is something to consider

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Originally posted by dj_souvlaki i have survived: Decadence 2005 Ultra Spin 7 Swirl. Ultra Spin 8 Sasha at guv Above and Beyond at guv Labour of Love Okenfold and Catteno at guv Matthew Dekay and Dave Seamen at guv Guv 9 year anniversary. mis kitten at systems Andy Moore at Viva lalwer at guv Sneaks Birthday Beats at 270 Spadina Marcel Woods at Viva Christopher Lawrence at Guv Marco V at Guv Armin Van Buuren in Montreal New Years at Red Light i've done all of those sober. its really not that hard.

u sir, are my hero

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Originally posted by Halycon u sir, are my hero

That list would only be impressive if it included Mauro Picotto.

Fahad was actually telling me that he goes sober (no drugs or alcohol) all the time...and if you know Fahad...then you'll know that he always stays all night, sometimes going to two parties or driving to Montreal right after. His best piece of advice I would say...is that he goes to bed at like noon and wakes up at 8 or 9...so when he goes to parties it's like he's just waking up for the day. Not only do you not just barely make it through the night...you end up having a lot of energy to give it your all on the dance floor!

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Originally posted by thesauce23 Dude why else would i go to Comfort Zone if i didnt like the music... The thing being, I cant last 8 hours or more dancing hard w/o E> I tried and maybe for a coupleof hours yea, but for long durations- no way.. the music is sooo awesome but ur body CANNOT physically last that long when ur moving just relying on music alone.. try it next time. Dance hard! none of that 2 step crap. and do it for like 6-8 hours.. u'll know what i'm talkin about

I always go sober no alcohol or drugs and have no problems. It's not that difficult to dance all night hard and sober. Eat healthy food; get sufficient sleep and your set. I would also refrain from getting too hammered like everyone else stated because your blood sugar levels will affect your body in a negative way.

You obviously like the music so going sober shouldn't be an issue. The music should be your drug. If you�re unable to dance hard for 8 hours so what. It isn�t a competition. Take some breaks, drink and socialize with friends. There is no rule that says you must dance the entire time your in the club.

I think if you have the urge to pop and anticipate it you might be developing dependence. If you�re feeling like you can�t party without popping then I think you should take a longer break from the scene in general. It seems like a correlation between you going out clubbing and popping has formed. Take away the triggers.

Like several people said before moderation is the key.

Thats my two cents worth

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH 2 weeks? wow that must be so hard

If thats hard then you've got a lot of work 2 do....

PS, if i'm @ the Guv, I'm chemically induced
Hence (hate using that word), there 3-4 times/year

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Originally posted by KKEFKA I always go sober no alcohol or drugs and have no problems. It's not that difficult to dance all night hard and sober. Eat healthy food; get sufficient sleep and your set. I would also refrain from getting too hammered like everyone else stated because your blood sugar levels will affect your body in a negative way. You obviously like the music so going sober shouldn't be an issue. The music should be your drug. If you�re unable to dance hard for 8 hours so what. It isn�t a competition. Take some breaks, drink and socialize with friends. There is no rule that says you must dance the entire time your in the club. I think if you have the urge to pop and anticipate it you might be developing dependence. If you�re feeling like you can�t party without popping then I think you should take a longer break from the scene in general. It seems like a correlation between you going out clubbing and popping has formed. Take away the triggers. Like several people said before moderation is the key. Thats my two cents worth

all so true

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves would smoking a doobie with a few of your friends before or during your night out be considred taking " drugs " ? i dont mean to start the weed is drug ... weed is not a drug war, but this is something to consider

whether you like it or not, you have started the war.
does weed alter your natural state of being? if yes, it is a drug. if no, it is not a drug.
if you answered no then there is no point for you to smoke weed.

SAY NO TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL


ITS BAD

i despise evryone that does either of those...including advil and tylenol inducers

I developed an irregular heatbeat so my using E had to disappear so I was worried that I wouldn't be able to keep up with my friends, but I noticed as long as the music is good and there are good people around, I had just as much fun, sometimes even more.

I'm _sort of_ able to last completely sober (no drugs or alcohol). My biggest problem is even if i love the music i get SO TIRED after a certain time (usually around 2 - 3 AM) because i'm an early - if you can call that early - sleeper.
Haven't popped for almost 5 months now and still feel no need to do it. It's almost like i've outgrown it or something. Blah. If i ever do it again it would have to be for some MASSIVE event. But at least i know i can enjoy myself just as much without it! The only thing i don't like is when people around me are rolling balls, makes me nostalgic lol. Doesn't make me do it though

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And quoting Dufouria, i also somehow developped an irregular heartbeat, which sucks ass. That's one of the reasons i really don't want to pop anymore.

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Originally posted by loca My biggest problem is even if i love the music i get SO TIRED after a certain time (usually around 2 - 3 AM)

Thats exactly it. So many people think its more of a drug problem, but thats exactly how I feel. The music is sooo good that you keep wanting to go on longer, but like I said like 5 times allready, its so hard cuz ur body gets worn out. But I had agood time regardless, excpet I was waaaay too tired yet at the same time I didnt feel like leaving

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Originally posted by thesauce23 Surviving GUV Sober

not possible.

simply standing in the same room as those 50 year old asians knitting, and playing board games WILL get you high - even if you didnt plan on it.

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Originally posted by loca I'm _sort of_ able to last completely sober (no drugs or alcohol). My biggest problem is even if i love the music i get SO TIRED after a certain time (usually around 2 - 3 AM) because i'm an early - if you can call that early - sleeper. Haven't popped for almost 5 months now and still feel no need to do it. It's almost like i've outgrown it or something. Blah. If i ever do it again it would have to be for some MASSIVE event. But at least i know i can enjoy myself just as much without it! The only thing i don't like is when people around me are rolling balls, makes me nostalgic lol. Doesn't make me do it though *edit* And quoting Dufouria, i also somehow developped an irregular heartbeat, which sucks ass. That's one of the reasons i really don't want to pop anymore.

lol i wonder if its somehow connected?

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Originally posted by Dufouria lol i wonder if its somehow connected?

I don't know. I've thought about it though! Maybe it was an underlying problem that would have started later in life but because of the e got kickstarted early? No clue Another thing i started getting after the last time i dropped was intense panic attacks. My last pop was so bad i only have terrible memories of the night.

i was born with an irregular heart beat and i dont have any consequences due to anything ive done despite this heartbeat thingy

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Originally posted by loca I don't know. I've thought about it though! Maybe it was an underlying problem that would have started later in life but because of the e got kickstarted early? No clue Another thing i started getting after the last time i dropped was intense panic attacks. My last pop was so bad i only have terrible memories of the night.

no fuckin way! same here. All of a sudden I started getting panic attacks like a little over a year ago. That's pretty much when the irreular heartbeat started. And it's not something that I wouldn't have noticed beforehand

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Originally posted by Dufouria no fuckin way! same here. All of a sudden I started getting panic attacks like a little over a year ago. That's pretty much when the irreular heartbeat started. And it's not something that I wouldn't have noticed beforehand

That's really weird. It was the same for me, first the panic attacks, then the irregular heartbeat. That's totally messed.
Did you notice a rise in your blood pressure as well? Or is yours still good?

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Originally posted by Floorwhore not possible. simply standing in the same room as those 50 year old asians knitting, and playing board games WILL get you high - even if you didnt plan on it.

...so true...i can't survive the guv twisted, let alone sober

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Originally posted by loca That's really weird. It was the same for me, first the panic attacks, then the irregular heartbeat. That's totally messed. Did you notice a rise in your blood pressure as well? Or is yours still good?

i'm a competitve runner and I don't eat red meat so mines pretty good, but yeah, the panic attacks started , then the heartbeat. I've never heard of this side effect

side effect? are you serious..
E fucks around with your brain
some people are left braindead after doing it just a couple of times
what did you expect to happen?

E also speeds up your heart rate by like "100times", i remember touching my exgf's heart and i felt like it was going to blow up cuz it was beating so fast
then she started having heart pains and irregural heart beat some weeks later
i hope this answered your question.

oh i'm well aware of the side effects on your brain. just wasn't sure if taking E could contribute to an irregular heartbeat

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Originally posted by geroin some people are left braindead after doing it just a couple of times E also speeds up your heart rate by like "100times", i remember touching my exgf's heart and i felt like it was going to blow up cuz it was beating so fast then she started having heart pains and irregural heart beat some weeks later i hope this answered your question.

And in a lot of people aren't. I'm sure there's a lot ofpeople here hwo have done E more than a few times and aren't braindead right now.

As far as the beating heart, i'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that she was dancing in a stuffy club, right?

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Originally posted by loca I don't know. I've thought about it though! Maybe it was an underlying problem that would have started later in life but because of the e got kickstarted early? No clue Another thing i started getting after the last time i dropped was intense panic attacks. My last pop was so bad i only have terrible memories of the night.

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That's really weird. It was the same for me, first the panic attacks, then the irregular heartbeat. That's totally messed.

do you smoke up (or did you smoke up at that time)?

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty do you smoke up (or did you smoke up at that time)?

Good point. I find that while on E, or after, while comming down, I found that blazing usually made me VERY antsy, made my heart jump all over the place, at very irregular intervals.

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