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someone finally discovered the "IMG" button. and no that makes no sense whatsoever.

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Originally posted by sponger What the hell are you talking about? you just said "Is there a necessity to reinforce our military?? We don't fight wars" umm ya that sounds a lot different than "we dont fight wars like the one that Bush lied to make". but of course you dont wanna look stupid so you backtrack and change your story.

There are wars that are fought becuase there is a dire crisis at hand in the region and military action is needed... then there are wars that are faught based on lies, deception, fear mongering and greed... like the one in iraq.

See the difference you cum shot?

I dont support the war in iraq or PRE-EMPTIVE WARS ON COUNTRIES BASED ON LIES!!!

moron

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Originally posted by Cyrus King There are wars that are fought becuase there is a dire crisis at hand in the region and military action is needed...

"Is there a necessity to reinforce our military??"

so you basically answered your own stupid question!!!

ya, im the moron

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Originally posted by sponger "Is there a necessity to reinforce our military??" so you basically answered your own stupid question!!! ya, im the moron

you just copied my sentence and toldme i answered my own stupid question?

THats your response??

Knew you were too much of an idiot to prove me wrong.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King There are wars that are fought becuase there is a dire crisis at hand in the region and military action is needed... then there are wars that are faught based on lies, deception, fear mongering and greed... like the one in iraq. I dont support the war in iraq or PRE-EMPTIVE WARS ON COUNTRIES BASED ON LIES!!!

Currently it is almost certain that the Lewis "Scooter" Libbys trial could turn into a political embarrassment or nightmare for the Bush administration by focusing on whether the White House manipulated intelligence to justify the U.S. - led invasion of Iraq. This will likely bring up alot of dirt on Dick Cheney. I personally believe Cheney's crimes are far worse than anything Richard Nixon did, and I hope Cheney ends up in jail before the next election. I'm also almost certain that the military support of Republicans will almost completely erode as the result of such a scandel, as the Bush administration shows a callous disregard for American deaths as well, and refuses to pay for psychological counseling of returning veterans.

As for this upcoming scandel as all the crooks start to point fingers at each other & a massive rift forms in the Republican Party, it certainly wont help them in an election year.

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Originally posted by Purple He is the 12th person to be announced head the State of Iraq in past 3 years. He is Kurdish caught in between Shia and Sunnis. Noone looks at him, listen to what he has to say. He is hardly quoted in any national/international news channel. People dont know what he does whole day, people dont know what plan he got for his country (if he has any at all). His political views - as expressed in interviews with Western media - remain unclear beyond the obvious intention of winning and conserving power for his tribe. You guys have too much fixation for figures and statistics. When the Kurds launched an armed uprising against the Iraqi government in 1961, Talabani led battles at home in Iraq, as well diplomatic missions to Europe and elsewhere in the Middle East to seek support for the Kurds and a seperate country for Kurds. This man has been in EU to sell his idea of a seperate Kurdish country outside of Iraq. And now he is made 'The Pesident of Iraq'. Is he not a puppet yet? Ok you might want 'proof'. And you are telling me he was freely elected by the people of Iraq, not some puppet regime. You want statistics, United Iraqi Alliance had 41% votes and Democratic Patriotic Alliance of Kurdistan from which Iraq's current President belong had 21.7% votes. Why is he still made the President of Iraq? I dont know who voted for a Kurdish president at first place in Iraq? Shias or Sunnis or Japanese people?

Ok I was watching a news channel and they told me:

'Todays its a new day for Iraq, a new begining, a new government....'

And I said bravo, brand new fresh day for Iraq, a fresh begining and one more fresh new government. I wonder how many more 'new' days will Iraq have.


And than they showed me a clip of Bush speaking from White House and he told me:

'Todays its a new day for Iraq, a new begining, a new government, freedom....'

And I said bravo, brand new fresh day for Iraq, a fresh begining and one more fresh new government. I wonder how many more 'new' days will Iraq have.























Today also a four year old girl was killed in Iraq in Baghdad.

This is a pic of what a typical four years old Iraqi girl looks like:

































I will leave you guys with some more pics..

Looks like someone's mom:























Looks like someone's dad:




























She is in a 'muslim' country, isnt she supposed to hide her face? Her daughter in hospital bed:





















Familly of one 'terrorist' I guess:























This toddler has lost his one leg:




























And the guy spreading the freedom message:

You mean the toddler lost ONE leg. It was your beloved muslims killing those people.

You have to sacrifice to enjoy life better.


Purple, do you expect things to change over night? Sure, people die. Its war, people will die, soldiers will die, society moves forward.

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Originally posted by Kapedan You have to sacrifice to enjoy life better.

Let the sacrifice begin in Iran. They got WMDs too; infact nuclear WMDs. They need freedom.

And I bet it will be HELL lot blodier than what you have seen in Vietnam or in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Purple Let the sacrifice begin in Iran. They got WMDs too; infact nuclear WMDs. They need freedom. And I bet it will be HELL lot blodier than what you have seen in Vietnam or in Iraq.

i see your absence hasn't made you any more acute or any more at ease in the english toungue.

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Originally posted by Purple Ok I was watching a news channel and they told me: 'Todays its a new day for Iraq, a new begining, a new government....' And I said bravo, brand new fresh day for Iraq, a fresh begining and one more fresh new government. I wonder how many more 'new' days will Iraq have. And than they showed me a clip of Bush speaking from White House and he told me: 'Todays its a new day for Iraq, a new begining, a new government, freedom....' And I said bravo, brand new fresh day for Iraq, a fresh begining and one more fresh new government. I wonder how many more 'new' days will Iraq have.

You're watching too much TV. You're starting to talk like one.

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Originally posted by Nou I know I proved you wrong well over after you posted this, but LOL! Uh. Vietnam? And war is ugly. You can't expect people to "stand up and fight like real" men if its not going to let them win. Remember the Redcoats said the Rebel army were unmanly for not lining up and marching face to face into battle... so in effect you are calling our fore fathers pansies?

Only in your little world.

Ok so they could hide in the caves like cowards

An honorable man also knows when he's defeated, kid.

And, yeah they are doing a good job of defeating the coalation and the new iraqi government by killing their own people AND muslims.

Shows how much their religion is valuable to the greedy people who control and brainwash them .

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Originally posted by Lepanto And, yeah they are doing a good job of defeating the coalation and the new iraqi government by killing their own people AND muslims.

But as long as they kill 2 or 3 Americans in the process, then all will be forgiven..



I can not beleive how any one can even support these issurgents when these insurgents kill other muslims and kill school teachers and children.

real big men, kind of like Cyrus and Hardcore, real big men sitting behind thier PC's in a free country like Canada!! ha ha

They were beat hard? yeah ok im going to listen to a high school drop out who lives with his parents about history and the state of this world. " I bet they will say no " shows how much you know about what's going on over there

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Originally posted by LazFX But as long as they kill 2 or 3 Americans in the process, then all will be forgiven.. I can not beleive how any one can even support these issurgents when these insurgents kill other muslims and kill school teachers and children. real big men, kind of like Cyrus and Hardcore, real big men sitting behind thier PC's in a free country like Canada!! ha ha

LOL Dude, it's purple he isn't known to make much sense, or even being able to make coherent sentences.

his occupation and interests are listed in his profile as being "drugs".


the end.

sniping is so unsympathetic

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Originally posted by stren that was so unpatriotic !

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Originally posted by Nou Where am I wrong? I have asked you multiple times in multiple threads to prove me wrong with facts that you can back up with refrences and you havn't. Here is all you need to disprove. Fact: US pulled out of Vietnam in 1973 with no concrete victory or supression of NVA or Viet Cong agressions. Fact: Two years later South Vietnam had been invaded and reunified with the north. Just prove those two things wrong and I will shut up! I didn't drop out because I didn't know the material so you shouldn't judge my intelligence off that. In fact every year in high school I tested at the top of my classes in history so please do fuck off if you think you know my education.

where did isay that wasn't true? LMAO kid go back to schol i call bullshit about your "high school experience" The US pulled out because of little support back home mainly due to the media for this was the first time average americans could see the horror of war and america barely lost any battle during the entire war

You have to also understand that the technology between the current Iraq and the American fighters is very different.

Also you have to realise that the insurgents are like gangs of some sorts, so gangs VS a countries military.

If, and im just saying "IF" these insurgents were part of a larger military group and had all the sophisticated weaponary that America used on them, then it could have been a different story.

Here we have a side that is very cautious to take every step slowly, analyse the situation and attack when they see it right, against a side who see's death as another doorway to another life so they will do anything to cause damage.

I don't think there is any tough sides anywhere to be honest. If all sides were fairly trained and fairly equiped, then you will be able to say which side is stronger.

If this new government of Iraq is successful, then we may see a different side to Iraqi military because it will be funded differently and trained differently; one can hope for the better.

Yeah because it ain't obvious that i wrote that in a hurry. That has little to do with that seeing as how we adapt to the enviroment, you do realize that the soldiers are trained to fight in any terrain and in any weather or conditios? ESPECIALLY post-KOREAN war not even always vietnam.

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Originally posted by Nou If we knew how to adapt we wouldn't be were we are in Iraq now. It's obvious we learned nothing from Vietnam in terms of tactics and training! As soon as Vietnam was over we went back to the whole Cold War, defend the Fulda Gap, protect west Germany scenario and didn't give a second thought about another war were we would have to fight an insurgency.

wow do you know any soldiers? lol do you even remmember when smokeape was here and how he talked about training current units in urban warfare? the special forces and marine force recon train in EVERY single terrain there is

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Originally posted by Lepanto wow do you know any soldiers? lol do you even remmember when smokeape was here and how he talked about training current units in urban warfare? the special forces and marine force recon train in EVERY single terrain there is

even moon terrain?

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Originally posted by Sunflower even moon terrain?

they're up to zero gravity in astaroid belt now.

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Originally posted by Sunflower even moon terrain?

Mars bitches!!! Mars!!!

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Originally posted by Nou Anyways we are getting away from the point that the marines have been beat, the US has been beat in combat, and it was in a conflict with many parallels to the one we are in now.

And you are??? Dude let me say this, I just ran your posting and your so called "parallels" by two of my co-workers and they told me to tell you that the school or college you go to needs to refund your mom and dad's money.

one of the 2 served 2 tours in Nam,
and the other returned from duty from Iraq just a month ago.


Its apparent that you have been lied to.

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