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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-04-2006 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
ummm Infected Mushroom?


They use a live band?


Posted by dpdm on Apr-04-2006 22:07:

Mmm not exactly goa or trance even but I know Hybrid does a live act with drummers and singers etc.

Re. Markus and Armin, I have a set that Armin played at Glow a few years ago and the tracks are exactly the slower hard to dance to hipster stuff that Markus produces...in fact there's a track or two that Mr. Schulz produced in that set...so Armin doing that is nothing new..

The sets I've heard by Mr. Schulz are quite danceable, but I've never seen him live...


Posted by all-nite-freak on Apr-04-2006 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
They use a live band?


last time i saw them

1 guitar player
1 on keyboard
1 singing

there is a link with video of this too somewhere in the montreal section ill try to find for you


Posted by benni on Apr-04-2006 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
They use a live band?




this is a pic of Ticon doing a live show

quote from their website:

quote:
Equipment Ticon use on stage
Apple G4 Powerbook running Ableton Live 5, M-audio Firewire 410, Mackie 1604 VLZ, Novation Nova, Access Virus B, Evolution UC-33e, Digital Stereo effects and tons of cables


Posted by all-nite-freak on Apr-04-2006 22:15:



looks like a live band to me


Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-05-2006 09:48:

prog house with glockenspiel melodies.

personally not a fan - theres no edge to it like the old bedrock or old perfecto stuff (the oldskool semi-commercial prog trance).

i actually find it a little depressing - but thats jus imo (:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-05-2006 16:48:

Thinking about it, dance music can be live without having all the instrumentalists on stage, but only if it's mostly analogue: a la Orbital. I hear that most of these "live" psy acts just press play and doodle around with Ableton and the odd keyboard.


Posted by Cosmic on Apr-05-2006 16:50:

boring


Posted by Ishkur on Apr-05-2006 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Thinking about it, dance music can be live without having all the instrumentalists on stage, but only if it's mostly analogue: a la Orbital. I hear that most of these "live" psy acts just press play and doodle around with Ableton and the odd keyboard.


I saw Analog Pussy "live" once.

I put live in quotation marks because none of their gear was plugged in. They played a DAT and faked the entire thing, including this comical moment where Jiga was hanging off the edge of the stage with an electric bass guitar pretending to shred out these badass licks, pandering to the people in the front row giving her props like some sort of rock god.

It was funny.


Posted by Subtle on Apr-05-2006 19:05:

its Progrezzz...ive trance


Posted by Progrezzion on Apr-05-2006 19:59:

quote:
i guess my biggest complaint is that i thought Without You Near was a terrible artist album... but that might just be my personal preference.


You must be a carpenter because you just hit the nail on the head with that statement my friend.


Posted by RebeL9 on Apr-05-2006 20:37:

just had to add this pic from a Son Kite liveset where they play that digital violin.



Posted by Cobalt on Apr-05-2006 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
In other words, you consider this the electronic music equivalent of lip synching. heh.

I won't argue that (although I could), but it bemuses me to think that you people can actually tell what the hell he's doing up there behind the decks anyway. Like you would know if he's mixing the music "live" or not. Unless you're standing behind him and can see everything, he could push 'samba' on a casio keyboard and fake the rest and no one in the club could tell the difference.

And even so, if the music is pre-mixed and pre-recorded already and all he has to do is push "play", so to speak, then it stands to reason that it BETTER be far superior to anything he can do do live ("on-the-fly") since he has all that time to prepare and craft the perfect set at home.

And if that's the case, then that sparks another quandary: WHICH DJs are actually better live than they are if they play their own pre-recorded performances? Who is so inept at pre-programming his own flawless sets that doing things manually in person--flaws and all--is actually better?

Well, according to some arguments in this thread, that man is Markus Schulz. He's just a cyclone when he DJs live. Someone better not let him near vinyl next, he'll mop up the DMCs.

So there's no such thing as an interaction between crowd and DJ, or vice versa? Just a sequence of mixing in abstract? I'll be among the first to say Schulz sucks in most arenas, and I'm not defending him here, but I think your concept of a liveset is really off. The reciprocal element between crowd and DJ is one of the defining elements of dance music. When bands perform, they don't typically sequence their performances on the fly, to effect a certain overall flow to the set. That's essentially why dance music is mixed, and it has a significant live component to it. Some DJs do this better than others, and their respective abilities to do so won't be reflected in prerecorded mixes.

I'm not really defending this idea in the context of DJ worship, either, since it taints the whole relationship between the DJ and crowd. But for most local or no-name spinners, it's an important element that you can't capture on a CD.


Posted by ArgentinaHouse on Apr-15-2006 19:51:

mcdonald's prog

you know the cheap stuff


Posted by zenperson on Apr-16-2006 10:07:

Thumbs up

I had the pleasure of seeing Markus a few months ago and I believe he is, the best trance DJ touring these days... I didn't expect much from his set, all those music box melodies...but, once you get in the club and all that bass kicks in, he really does take you on a fantastic journey


Posted by Saka on Apr-16-2006 12:03:

I'd say his style was, overall good.


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