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Posted by Yohan on Oct-26-2007 03:40:

It's the Star... Pretty much a Liberal paper.

But yes, politicians they all want to put their own spin on the events.

It just seems that the Conservatives are trying to make it more... salivable for the general public to accept the Afghanistan mission.
Except this is a rookie mistake

Posted by MarkT on Oct-26-2007 14:31:

Ugh...what difference does it make where the article appeared?

Harper's gov't says 2011 and the head of our military is saying at least 10 years.

There really isn't room for "spin" in that disagreement, now is there?

I'm kind of tired of posting stuff and people replying with "oh, that was in the Toronto Star...liberal rag". You'll note it comes of the Canadian Press wire anyway...but I guess that's a liberal rag too.

btw...The Star article has been updated to include this:

quote:
Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier yesterday dismissed questions in the House of Commons about the discrepancy between Harper's and Hillier's assessments. However, a spokesperson for the Prime Minister, Sandra Buckler, stuck to the early end date, saying it was "achievable" and in line with the Afghanistan Compact, the agreement drawn up between the international community and the Afghan government. In her emailed statement, Buckler did not acknowledge Hillier's comments.

"We have said so many times before, and will continue to emphasize (that) it will be Parliament that will ultimately decide how long our Canadian Forces will remain in Afghanistan," she wrote.

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/270734

typical response of the CPC though, isn't it. When the CPC doesn't want to answer questions, they just ignore them, ignore the media, etc. Nice "Accountability and transparency".

If the public expects to remain somewhat informed, shouldn't we be concerned about the discrepency? Is something similar not happening with the U.S. and Iraq (albeit on a MUCH worse scale)?

i.e. The U.S. gov't keeps feeding overly positive messages to the public, while the situation in Iraq is quite different...as their own military people will say.

Well, we have Hillier saying 10 years, at least, for Afghanistan's army to be capable of handling things...and the PM's office saying 2011. Someone is thus quite "off" in their estimate.

Posted by Yohan on Oct-26-2007 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
Ugh...what difference does it make where the article appeared?

Harper's gov't says 2011 and the head of our military is saying at least 10 years.

There really isn't room for "spin" in that disagreement, now is there?

I'm kind of tired of posting stuff and people replying with "oh, that was in the Toronto Star...liberal rag". You'll note it comes of the Canadian Press wire anyway...but I guess that's a liberal rag too.

It does piss me off when newspapers are suppose to be unbiased, but prints misleading and some times outright false article.

quote:

btw...The Star article has been updated to include this:

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/270734

typical response of the CPC though, isn't it. When the CPC doesn't want to answer questions, they just ignore them, ignore the media, etc. Nice "Accountability and transparency".

If the public expects to remain somewhat informed, shouldn't we be concerned about the discrepency? Is something similar not happening with the U.S. and Iraq (albeit on a MUCH worse scale)?

i.e. The U.S. gov't keeps feeding overly positive messages to the public, while the situation in Iraq is quite different...as their own military people will say.

Well, we have Hillier saying 10 years, at least, for Afghanistan's army to be capable of handling things...and the PM's office saying 2011. Someone is thus quite "off" in their estimate.

You're quite right. I'm very interested to see if Harper govt gives any response at all.

Posted by Yohan on Oct-27-2007 05:53:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...fghanistan/home

Hillier claims that he meant ANA ready to takeover Afghanistan defence in 10 yrs while saying 2011 is for Kandahar province only. So apparently, there is no contradiction.

I love politicians talk. So amusing

Posted by MarkT on Oct-28-2007 03:14:

lol

I guess when Hillier realized that he was essentially calling out his political boss, it became a good idea to bridge the distance between their figures, haha.

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