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| Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears hahahaha...this is too funny, the club hasn't even opened yet and some of you are already proposing it's failure. Yeah he's cocky and arrogant in the article...but how would you be in promoting your club?..."yeah, the sound should be good"...."i hope we're as good as the competition"...etc. His name as a DJ/producer speaks for itself as well as Stereo being an icon in the past/present...who wouldn't be a little cocky? Personally this article reassures me of Sonic living up to the hype it's been getting. |
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| Originally posted by Floorwhore I dont think we have had a venue in this city that justified spending $30 on a nightly basis to be honest. Montreal however, does. It's called Stereo. Infact, a lot of Toronto kids spend that kind of cover with ease at a venue like that because it delivers a quality that is unparallel. I think Sonic will deliver the same kind of experience, and will be successful on this factor alone. Besides, cover charge is only $20 on regular nights, and $30 for headliner nights which is totally reasonable imo. |
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| Originally posted by geroin ok so the guy has confidence and cockiness but who gives a shit? the club will definately be something else and hes proud of it yes there is competition but sonic will always bring the crowd in no matter what, many people hate guv and hate the "clubdisrict". also some of the dj's sonic has booked in the past and in the present will probably never get booked at the guv. there are many pluses so stop all your useless whining about what he said in the paper. |
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| Originally posted by bryans05 Here in T.O he has an opportunity to build the perfect club...and I am convinced it will be amazing. |
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| this is the problem with toronto.. people dont know how to party.. they go clubbing just to see whats wrong with the club.. i dont even think they enjoy themselves.. because all i c the next morning are tons of reviews showing how much they hated this and that.. how unhappy they are with some people and the stuff that goes around.. this scene has alot going on.. so why keep bitchin about it? |
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| Originally posted by fairy godfather I am certainly not impressed with the bullshit coming out of that place so far. I really don't think most people are going to want to buy tickets on line, with a service charge, erevey week. Too much hastle! |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller I agree. This "advance ticket" BS is a way to create business for ticketbreak.com at the expense of Sonic patrons. $4.28 weekly service fee for tickets? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but I am not happy about having to pay Ticketbreak $4.28 a week, on top of paying cover. |
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| Originally posted by fairy godfather I am certainly not impressed with the bullshit coming out of that place so far. I really don't think most people are going to want to buy tickets on line, with a service charge, erevey week. Too much hastle! |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller I agree. This "advance ticket" BS is a way to create business for ticketbreak.com at the expense of Sonic patrons. $4.28 weekly service fee for tickets? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but I am not happy about having to pay Ticketbreak $4.28 a week, on top of paying cover. |
Does having an advanced ticket get you in quicker?
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| Originally posted by infinity HiGH wait...so we can't just walk up to door, pay our $30 and get in? we have to buy a ticket beforehand? |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor They are also selling tickets at Priape on Church aren't they? |
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| Originally posted by shanny Does having an advanced ticket get you in quicker? |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor They are also selling tickets at Priape on Church aren't they? |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller Maybe it's just me, but I don't really think that a gay sex shop, or charging us an extra $4.28 for no reason as the only two ways to buy tickets is going to make patrons of the club very happy. |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor I found a post on houseaddict by floorwhore stating that he always has guestlist for sonic. Ask hm... |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor From what I can see you have other choices - pay at the door when you get there. OR Find out from the Promoter if there is any sort of guestlist. I found a post on houseaddict by floorwhore stating that he always has guestlist for sonic. Ask hm... |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller You can argue all you want about how there are other methods to buy tickets, but when it comes down to it, this ticket/cover situation is cetainly not going to help the club in a city where people don't even want to pay cover in the first place. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper It's an article in the metro...I'm sure it's being read by people who have no clue about Sonic or even house music, so it could be a first impression for many. |
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| Originally posted by Wyndham a first impression to people who have no clue about the music nor will probably ever go to the club? |
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| Originally posted by shanny I'll bet for every person that gets turned off by his comment, there will be two who want to see what the hell he's bragging about. |
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| Originally posted by Special K yea no competition. just a huge megaclub thats been in operation for 10 years and its younger brother of a club that seem to be able to book whomever they want pretty much whenever they want while cockblocking everyone else in town. |
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| Originally posted by simplemind yeah, Stereo sounded amazing, and its known for its sound. But since Shorty left AND TOOK ALL HIS EQUIPMENT FROM THE CLUB, REPLACED BY GENERIC EQUIPMENT, its really bad. I dont mean its not quite as amazing but still good, I mean it really, really sounds bad in there. |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller I agree. This "advance ticket" BS is a way to create business for ticketbreak.com at the expense of Sonic patrons. $4.28 weekly service fee for tickets? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but I am not happy about having to pay Ticketbreak $4.28 a week, on top of paying cover. |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor Well you just said it right there. That is the biggest problem in the city of Toronto - everyone wants to get in for free. Sure not having to pay to get into a club is great, but are you really supporting the scene that way, no. If everyone got in for free how would these clubs pay for the big name talent that you all want to see. |
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| Now it may be annoying to some to buy tickets in advance - whether it be online or in a gay sex shop - for a party, but I think it is a good idea. I can see this lowering the wait time at the front door. if people no longer have to wait for their change, or decide on how many people they are going to pay for, the line will go that much faster. |
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| So now you just have to make a choice. You can either accept the options that have been given to you and make this your "home again" or just don't go. |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller It's all fine and well to banter on about how not wanting to pay cover supports the scene or not, but the fact of the matter is, these are market conditions that Sonic is going to have to deal with. If people don't want to pay cover and Sonic is charging a lot of money to get in (relative to other clubs), and are making it very difficult to get discounts off that price, they're putting themselves in a very bad position. |
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| You just contradicted yourself. If it's annoying to buy tickets in advance, why would people do it? With the way things are, less people are going to buy tickets in advance making the wait times at the door even longer. |
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| You've gotta' love this "if you don't like it, don't go" argument by zealous supporters of nightclubs. I'm obviously still going to go, but I don't have to like the way they're doing things. As a customer, I'm going to make it known that I don't like it in the hopes that they will change things. If enough customers make noise about something they don't like, things will change. |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor High ticket prices worked Boa, it works for Stereo, it even works for the guvernment on the occasion (when they over pack the place.) |
It obviously did not work for Boa, or we would not even be discussing the Sonic opening. Boa made it quite easy to get tickets, reduced guest list and so on. They charged $20.00 on an average week and more for big name nights, but you did not have to pay a service charge.
I can certainly understand the ticketbreak option for big name nights, but I am anxious to see what happens on week 2 and 3 when Sonic wants $20.00 plus $4.28 service charge, or $30.00 at the door. I don't think they have the talent to support those prices.
We can bitch all we like, but the reality of any business start up is to know your competition, and if you are going to charge more, you need a better product, and is this case, in my opinion, the product is the talent...then the sound, and least of all, the decor.
The opening week looks great, but after that, until the long weekend in May, I am not so sure!
Ummm yeah it did work for boa. The club was packed every weekend. IMO it stopped working for boa when they lost Carey and couldn't bring in the big name DJs that you all wanted to see, but were still charging $30 - $40 at the door to get in. Fine on occasion they charged $20 at the door, but the price always went up when they would get a good turn out - like most other clubs.
I understand why guvernment gets away with it. Paying $50 it see 3 - 4 DJs that you really like is a good deal. But they do overpack the place. I for one have never really had a good time there because there is no room to dance.
Fairy Godfather - Opening night does look good. But so do the weeks after. You just have to give other DJs a chance. I think most people will be impressed with Danny Torrance.
You think the talent is number one - and it is - but I would much rather party at a venue that has sound that won't hurt your ears, and at a venue that has nice decor then a place that is a hole in the ground.
Boa stopped being "crowed" every weekend early last spring, before Carey left. They had a few good nights, in fact the only one that I remember being really "packed" was the Sunday of the May long weekend, when the talent line up was exactly the same as the opening night for Sonic.
A club relying solely on cover to survive needs to make it as easy as possible for people to get in. Yes, you can get "guestlist" without service charge, but if you read Floorwhore's post, he clearly says "limited". The number of people in my party this week would have eaten up two thirds of what the "limited" guest numbers allowed, according to ne of the promoters I spoke to. As a result, I only got two spots on guest list where in any other club in town, I can get my entire party on.
No one wants Sonic to succeed more than I do, I can't wait to be back home again! Cover is not an issue for me at all. But I don't want to be dancing alone!
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| Originally posted by fairy godfather Cover is not an issue for me at all. But I don't want to be dancing alone! |
i'll pay the extra and go out of my way for the sole reason of not being in a club full of mainstreamers that want to "rave" for a night
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| Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears for the sole reason of not being in a club full of mainstreamers that want to "rave" for a night |
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| Originally posted by WorkinTheFloor You may think that they are putting themselves in a bad position, obviously they don't. If they did I am sure they wouldn't do it this way. High ticket prices worked Boa, it works for Stereo, it even works for the guvernment on the occasion (when they over pack the place.) |
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| If you would read my post again you would see that I worte that it may annoying for SOME to buy tickjets in advance. I don't think all people find it annoying at all. I really don't see what the problem is with buying tickets in advance. Either pay the extra $4.28 or pay $40 at the door. |
I think HighRoller is right on the money here.
I think it's really funny that the "Guest List" price is listed in this thread as $30.00 (reduced).
The only thing that is reduced, is that you don't pay the on line commission.
Someone please tell me what is the difference to the club?
If I guestlist...and I am lucky enough to get one of the "limited" number of spots. I pay $30.00, directly to the club.
If not, I buy on line for $34.28, and I am still paying $30.00 of that to the club.
My question is: What is the difference how many people get $30.00 guest list, if the club gets the same amount of money either way?
My answer: Less of a pain in the ass for me and lot's of other club goers (some of whom may not have a credit card!)
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| Originally posted by smuncky i wouldnt know cuz i got them off another TA, |
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