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Originally posted by Frenchina lol! I've never seen you dance, but it's be cool to see you guys go at it!

Yeah... I had a blast dancing with Nada at Cozo in February... so hard and so fast...

It's gotta be the right time and the right place...

just rockn' out as hard as u can hahaha, everyone dances in a way to represent themselves which is why its so fun to watch out so many people dance

i've got quite a few styles down pat, not that i want to brag, im good, but theres always better out there.
if u wanna see pop/locking, liquiding, glowstick and/or glow string'ing, or just my own personal footwork, i suppose its half pop/half top rock. im always on the stage. always. ultra 10 i'll be in KH all night, probably near the middle.
you might learn something, otherwise it's all for kicks and jokes.
seeing people who can actually dance (esp. with the beat) is always fascinating to watch.
and to find me...well i look like that
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Originally posted by Mako Nice 1 john. Do you know any vids w/ people dancing to DnB? Cos that shit's phenomenal.

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i have taht entire 250meg video. if your interested.
and i have better vids.
new age breakers make gymnasts look like 1st grade gym class

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Originally posted by waynoinsano \ i have taht entire 250meg video. if your interested. and i have better vids. new age breakers make gymnasts look like 1st grade gym class

mind uploading it to sendpace.com ?

cheers.

ahhh. uploading things ftl.
haha umm, let me see. i might have better vids that are half the size. hopefully i didnt delt. all my breaking videos.
also if u want samples of REALLY good glowstickers, i got a few.
or. speed things up, add me to msn
[email protected]
and i'll send em over

yeeeeahhh. for some reason i have been un-able to upload to both sendspace and rapidshare.
if anyone wants videos, i'll have to go through MSN.
email above^^

This doesn't really help you much MK, but one of my favorite things about EDM and EDM clubs is that you can dance however you want to. Everyone has their own style, their own groove, their own way they feel and move to the music...and I love it. No one judges. You don't have to be an amazing dancer with all kinds of crazy skills...as long as you can move your body, you can dance.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* No one judges. You don't have to be an amazing dancer with all kinds of crazy skills...as long as you can move your body, you can dance.

translation:...I can't dance either Mary Kate.

the only type of dancing i know has a name is the horizontal type and well yea call me clueless

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Originally posted by Endlesswave ^^^^^^^ Liquid pop eric...I have a few vids w that guy, I also have some of ravers doing some insane tricks with glo sticks...not the cheesey shit you see at parties but really crazy shit.

awesome

ps MK, check this thread out:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=330670

Fedora styles :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNjSHVYxpOQ

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Originally posted by Nikitha I personally don't know how to do SPECIFIC dance types... but i've seen ppl do them... to me.. dancing is just however your body choses to move to the music! i can't be preoccupied with trying to stick to a dance style when the beats are pumping... but i have seen some crazy shit and its pretty sweet... Liquid is crazy.. especially when its done properly.. there was a crazy video on here last summer i believe of a guy doing some crazy liquid moves.. maybe someone still has it and can post it! Nikki

yeah I posted that video.

I dance liquid....It works out like this :

I go to a party playing house, I dance liquid. I either have people look at me funny because house and liquid don't usually match, or I have people who like to watch. Either way, I go to a corner and try not to get looked at.

I can probably find that video in my archive somewhere, and it's sort of a liquid/gliding/waving video. I'm learning waving and gliding [actually getting better at it, not just learning anymore] but it's hard to test out it's club-worthiness when there's never enough room to break out the big moves.

And I'm all for dancing of a specific style, to me, I started by watching other people go nuts, then tried to emulate it, and eventually you reach a point where you can create your own unique style of dance for yourself. It's just a different path to becoming a good dancer.

It's just become increasingly rare to find someone who has really put a lot of time into dancing to get inspired anymore. I can remember when I first tried my hands at glowsticking in the old rave days, the amount of crazy talent some people in the toronto crowds had was nuts.

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Originally posted by jon jon LESS IS MORE BAHAHAH Get me to show you the "less is more" dance...

This is a great dance. I wholeheartedly support the use of this dance 'en masse' in a club. Especially right in front of the booth just to freak the DJ out. Works even better when you have a possessed look on your face [or if you're just munted beyond control]

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Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears translation:...I can't dance either Mary Kate.

one of these days steve.. i'll kill u...lol

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Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears translation:...I can't dance either Mary Kate.

Steve: I like to dance on twinkly toes and grab my hat...I keep my face down out of embarassment.

after watching all those videos again i really feel like dancing.

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Originally posted by Sly_Guy yeah I posted that video. And I'm all for dancing of a specific style, to me, I started by watching other people go nuts, then tried to emulate it, and eventually you reach a point where you can create your own unique style of dance for yourself. It's just a different path to becoming a good dancer. It's just become increasingly rare to find someone who has really put a lot of time into dancing to get inspired anymore. I can remember when I first tried my hands at glowsticking in the old rave days, the amount of crazy talent some people in the toronto crowds had was nuts.

agreeed completely. its rare to see anyone who can beat anything more then a figure 8 with glowsticks anymore. and if they throw a roll into it, they're automatically better then 95% of the others lol.

liquiding, hah love it. but its even more dead then sticking. sad really, good liquiding is harder then sticking.

eventually as you watch and adapt newer and different styles you become a style yourself. thats why sometimes when u see people, u can tell if they dance/practice around each other. certain moves/styles just catch your eye.

its not about whos best. its about learning, sharing skill and having fun.
but i completely agree ^^
"It's just become increasingly rare to find someone who has really put a lot of time into dancing to get inspired anymore"

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Steve: I like to dance on twinkly toes and grab my hat...I keep my face down out of embarassment.

you forgot about my spirit fingers

i think it's kinda wierd to try to dance a certain "style". like sorry, but why? just dance cos you like the music and how you feel! like how does one "put time into dancing"? what - are you supposed to have some sort of memorized routine or something?! yikes.

jazz hands!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears you forgot about my spirit fingers

don't you mean jazz hands/

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Originally posted by nadezhda i think it's kinda wierd to try to dance a certain "style". like sorry, but why? just dance cos you like the music and how you feel! like how does one "put time into dancing"? what - are you supposed to have some sort of memorized routine or something?! yikes. jazz hands!!!!!!!!!

Because you enjoy the feeling of flow with respect to that style. Some people are content to simply jump up and down, I am not.

Putting time in to really smoothe things out, to learn basics forms and movements, and learning to link them together, and hopefully progressing to the point where you come up with your own style which you are satisfied with.

It isn't about memorized routines, in fact it's the opposite. It's progressing to the point where you can freely do whatever your mind can conjure up while still being able to say 'yeah that's liquid', 'yeah, that's glowstick tracing', or 'yeah that's locking'.

It's a really rewarding and challenging way, at least for me, to enjoy the music I'm listing to, because I feel the rythem the same as the rest of you, I just like going about it in a somewhat more organized manner, and seeing how much I can push the look of what I'm doing given certain unwritten boundaries of the style.

Asking why I enjoy dancing a certain style would be like asking why someone chooses one profession over another. The reasons are so numerous and varied from person to person that it would be impossible and completely arbitrary to answer.

Dancing well is just as legitimate an art as the music itself, it just happens that they go hand in hand with each other. So the same way music has beats and rythems, so too does dancing have it's own styles and forms. Besides, we're all going to these parties to dance, and it's not like those who can perform certain styles go and snicker at those who don't, but it is nice to be able to observe and respect those who have put effort into putting a complex set of movments to the motion of music. Well at least for me.

but how can you "learn basic forms and movements"? it's not a ballet class with positions and port de bras and shit. i see what you're saying, but still, i dunno. for example, i'd like to think that i dance the way i dance, not because i was trying to emulate other people or styles, ya know? buuut i guess for some people doing that leads to their own style or whatever! and i guess some people take this stuff really seriously? like are you thinking about what you're gonna do next in your head? the fact that you use the word "perform" sounds like you're trying to like put on a show or something.

i'm just trying to wrap my head around this business!

and jumping up and down isn't dancing.

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Originally posted by nadezhda but how can you "learn basic forms and movements"? it's not a ballet class with positions and port de bras and shit. i see what you're saying, but still, i dunno. for example, i'd like to think that i dance the way i dance, not because i was trying to emulate other people or styles, ya know? buuut i guess for some people doing that leads to their own style or whatever! and i guess some people take this stuff really seriously? like are you thinking about what you're gonna do next in your head? the fact that you use the word "perform" sounds like you're trying to like put on a show or something. i'm just trying to wrap my head around this business! and jumping up and down isn't dancing.

every style of dance has it's basic forms, even like ballet. Glowsticking has it's figure 8, liquid has it's rails, waving has the simple armwaves and body waves, etc. Once you learn how to 'perform' these moves [and I use the word perform as I did in the post above, as a means of completing a movement, not as in getting on a stage in front of an audience], you body becomes accustomed to certain orders of movement and you can proceed to improvise them, or completely revamp them.

And yes, you may start by emulating, but it rarely ends that way. Copying someone's style is the best way to understand how the movements feel when you do them with your own body, and allowing yourself to set up the guidlines about what defines that style of dance. After a while, copying leads to influences, the influences lead to exploration and experimentation, and thus your own style.

And yes, some people do take it pretty seriously. Look at breakdancers, or those electric bugaloo folks. Hell even listen to the people who used to go to the paradise garage, they all claimed the people were serious about the way the danced, and there was nothing wrong with that.

And as for thinking beforehand about what move I'm going to pull off, I'd say when I was beginning to learn, I was very conscious about what I was going to do next. I had a certain set of things I could pull off, and I needed to know what I was going to do next because if I didn't think ahead I'd end up maneouvering myself into a body position I didn't know how to escape smoothly from.

Now, 90% I pretty much go with the music, it's become really enjoyable to just let myself go and find new combinations, or even entirely new movements all within the time of the music. Occasionally I'll have a really good idea in my head about something completely new, and do it over and over to the point where it becomes muscle memory, and then try to link it in with other elements.

The problem with thinking too hard about specific moves is that you become too regimented in what you think you can or can't do. the links between specific moves becomes even more important than the moves themselves, like a DJ mixing tracks. Often times creating these links between moves inspires or even creates new moves in themselves, setting your own emerging style apart from other dancers, even in the style that you practice. Being able to pull off a move on one side of your body and then seamlessly launch into another on a completely different area all while in time with the music is where the difficulty comes in. At the end of it all, is the goal of creating one seamless dance that is not rehersed, yet has form and structure. And better still, one that is unique to the person doing it, and enjoying themselves while they do it.

But one last thing, I'll give you an example of how style can arise from the basic forms of a dance: Take glowsticking's figure 8, the move we've all seen to death and probably are tired of.
Instead of holding the sticks outward, try holding them facing inward toward your body. That becomes a different move called a figure 8 body trace, or an inverted figure 8. Now try to have the upper loop of the figure 8 wrap around our head from opposite sides, it becomes a different trace and looks different still. Now try stopping one arm at the point where your sticks are farthest apart in the 8 pattern, use the other arm to come underneath the now stationary one. You've just learned your first threading technique. See how one move can spawn others, and link together? It's finding these links, and making up completely new moves and linking them together that creates one's own style. Sure these are all basic moves still, but they all spawn from the same basic form. But the possibilities are endless, you're still only bound by what you can think up and the ranges of motion in your joints [and sometimes in very painful circumstances not even that!]

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Originally posted by chinamon

chinamon, if you like bboyin check out this site. Mostly breakin, but some really cool popin and lockin vids.

Style2Ouf

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Originally posted by Sly_Guy every style of dance has it's basic forms, even like ballet. Glowsticking has it's figure 8, liquid has it's rails, waving has the simple armwaves and body waves, etc. Once you learn how to 'perform' these moves [and I use the word perform as I did in the post above, as a means of completing a movement, not as in getting on a stage in front of an audience], you body becomes accustomed to certain orders of movement and you can proceed to improvise them, or completely revamp them. And yes, you may start by emulating, but it rarely ends that way. Copying someone's style is the best way to understand how the movements feel when you do them with your own body, and allowing yourself to set up the guidlines about what defines that style of dance. After a while, copying leads to influences, the influences lead to exploration and experimentation, and thus your own style. And yes, some people do take it pretty seriously. Look at breakdancers, or those electric bugaloo folks. Hell even listen to the people who used to go to the paradise garage, they all claimed the people were serious about the way the danced, and there was nothing wrong with that. And as for thinking beforehand about what move I'm going to pull off, I'd say when I was beginning to learn, I was very conscious about what I was going to do next. I had a certain set of things I could pull off, and I needed to know what I was going to do next because if I didn't think ahead I'd end up maneouvering myself into a body position I didn't know how to escape smoothly from. Now, 90% I pretty much go with the music, it's become really enjoyable to just let myself go and find new combinations, or even entirely new movements all within the time of the music. Occasionally I'll have a really good idea in my head about something completely new, and do it over and over to the point where it becomes muscle memory, and then try to link it in with other elements. The problem with thinking too hard about specific moves is that you become too regimented in what you think you can or can't do. the links between specific moves becomes even more important than the moves themselves, like a DJ mixing tracks. Often times creating these links between moves inspires or even creates new moves in themselves, setting your own emerging style apart from other dancers, even in the style that you practice. Being able to pull off a move on one side of your body and then seamlessly launch into another on a completely different area all while in time with the music is where the difficulty comes in. At the end of it all, is the goal of creating one seamless dance that is not rehersed, yet has form and structure. And better still, one that is unique to the person doing it, and enjoying themselves while they do it. But one last thing, I'll give you an example of how style can arise from the basic forms of a dance: Take glowsticking's figure 8, the move we've all seen to death and probably are tired of. Instead of holding the sticks outward, try holding them facing inward toward your body. That becomes a different move called a figure 8 body trace, or an inverted figure 8. Now try to have the upper loop of the figure 8 wrap around our head from opposite sides, it becomes a different trace and looks different still. Now try stopping one arm at the point where your sticks are farthest apart in the 8 pattern, use the other arm to come underneath the now stationary one. You've just learned your first threading technique. See how one move can spawn others, and link together? It's finding these links, and making up completely new moves and linking them together that creates one's own style. Sure these are all basic moves still, but they all spawn from the same basic form. But the possibilities are endless, you're still only bound by what you can think up and the ranges of motion in your joints [and sometimes in very painful circumstances not even that!]

you goin to US10? haha i wanna see you dance. you clearly know your stoof.

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