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so, placebo, did you research operation northwoods??

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Originally posted by Aureus the thought that they were TERRORIST ATTACKS is complete bullshit. watch the movie. stop being so fucking closed-minded!! THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM what part of that doesn't register in your measly little head?!

I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

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Originally posted by Aquarian I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

I know...it's pointless trying to argue my point with that guy. I give up. I did call him a moron though, but the truth hurts sometimes.

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Originally posted by placebo I know...it's pointless trying to argue my point with that guy. I give up. I did call him a moron though, but the truth hurts sometimes.

huh? no one is a moron except the uninformed (ahem...still waiting on your reaction to northwoods...).

and yeah, the truth does hurt, which is why so many people are in denial. "but why would our beloved government do this??"...government = business, they will do anything for $$$...if you were in charge of millions of people, ran the superpower of the world, and was presented with a scheme to make an insane amount of money and gain more control, even at the expense of your citzens dying...would you do it? if not, do you think there are people in the world that would? GEORGE W. BUSH. look at Hitler! just because they are in charge, doesn't mean that they know what is the best. just look at CEO's of major corporations, do they always treat their lower end employees (aka citizens in our case) with respect and dignity, or do they fire them if it's in the best economical interest for the company? yeah...didn't think so. it's called casualties of war.

the most disturbing part of this entire thread...is that only 10 (at most) people have taken part in it. like this would ever reach the amount of pages as our pictures thread has

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Originally posted by Aquarian I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

well, if you have those opinions, i respect your right to have them.

it just means you're incredibly uninformed.

and if you choose not to seek out the truth in the matter, then you are ignorant by default.

i've examined all sides of this argument. only one side adds up. NOT YOURS.

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Originally posted by Aureus well, if you have those opinions, i respect your right to have them. it just means you're incredibly uninformed. and if you choose not to seek out the truth in the matter, then you are ignorant by default. i've examined all sides of this argument. only one side adds up. NOT YOURS.

I didn't give a side. But thanks for proving my point.

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Originally posted by Aquarian I didn't give a side. But thanks for proving my point.

if placebo is agreeing with you, you are guilty by association.

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Originally posted by Aureus if placebo is agreeing with you, you are guilty by association.

So if someone agrees with a statement I've made - all of their opinions become mine?

While I was just taking a shit i came up with a couple questions regarding 9/11. So since alot of you know alot about 9/11 on both sides, i hope some1 can help.

1. If the govt was behind 9/11 what about all the FBI agents that have gone public about being aware of a terrorist plot against our coutry with airplanes prior to 9/11.? From the agents the terrorists were obviosly planning something. Also if supposedly 9 of the hijackers are still alive, what about the other ones that supposedly died, did they die on the planes.? Also if there is so much evidence to support this, why doenst our enemies like Iran, N. Korea, Venesuaela ect. exploit this to destroy our credibility to the international world.

2. Why was the debris from the WTC's immediately shipped off to another country & destroyed. It was a crime scene of the worst attack on our country in history & it was evidence. Now im not saying the govt did it, but if the govt didnt have anything to hide from the evidence, why did they get rid of it so quickly. I know you can blame it on incompetence but im sure many people in the govt thought during the months it took to remove the debri, thought that maybe we should save this since its extremely important evidence. They knew there was an investigation being planned. Didnt they remember Waco & the front door & video tape of the raid was all of a sudden lost & helped fuel a conspiracy with that. The WTC's werent a door or a small video tape to loose either. That evidence was millions of tons. Also since most politicians were attourneys & know the importance of evidence at a crime scene, why would they let it all get destroyed.? Even if the govt had nothing to hide, the evidence of the WTC's could have been used as examples on how to make high rise steel building stronger & found any weakness's in the WTC's that could have contributed to the buildings collapse. So there could have been much learned.


Just some questions for both side. Now im gonna go run.

I get so pissed off at conspiracy theories as obsurd as this. These theorists have the worst case of denial I've ever seen. They don't want to believe that our country's barn door was left wide open. So they make up these wild conspiracies that make our country look strong and in control. Let's face the facts:

Our own ignorance (The public as well as the government) left our country at risk. Any normal person (Including myself) had no idea who Osama Bin Laden or what Al-Qaeda was before the 9/11 attacks. We dismissed the '93 bombings of the WTC and we payed dearly for it. Those people on the planes were mostly business-people going on business trips. They were worrying about whether or not they were going to make the next big deal, rather than being hijacked by terrorists. We missed the chance to kill Bin Laden when Clinton was in office, and we ignored intelligence when Bush was fresh, and 2-months in.

We messed up, our country isn't as strong and in-control as you think. We can get attacked on our own soil by 19 men. We can lose a war in Vietnam, and we can certainly lose a war in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers I get so pissed off at conspiracy theories as obsurd as this. These theorists have the worst case of denial I've ever seen. They don't want to believe that our country's barn door was left wide open. So they make up these wild conspiracies that make our country look strong and in control. Let's face the facts: Our own ignorance (The public as well as the government) left our country at risk. Any normal person (Including myself) had no idea who Osama Bin Laden or what Al-Qaeda was before the 9/11 attacks. We dismissed the '93 bombings of the WTC and we payed dearly for it. Those people on the planes were mostly business-people going on business trips. They were worrying about whether or not they were going to make the next big deal, rather than being hijacked by terrorists. We missed the chance to kill Bin Laden when Clinton was in office, and we ignored intelligence when Bush was fresh, and 2-months in. We messed up, our country isn't as strong and in-control as you think. We can get attacked on our own soil by 19 men. We can lose a war in Vietnam, and we can certainly lose a war in Iraq.

their is no reason to get pissed off at people who use freedom to ask questions about why things dont add up, its called being patriotic. Ignorance is the reason for the downfall of this country... (good example is the post above)

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Originally posted by dcougar99 their is no reason to get pissed off at people who use freedom to ask questions about why things dont add up, its called being patriotic. Ignorance is the reason for the downfall of this country... (good example is the post above)

No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowadays with the theorists. They don't back up their claims.

See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowaday with the theorists. They don't back up their claims. See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.

uhhhh ok then... explain building 7 to us all... you may also want to inform the 911 commission.

I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!)

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

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Originally posted by flavdave I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!) http://www.911myths.com/index.html

Very nice.

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Originally posted by flavdave I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!) http://www.911myths.com/index.html

yes, now there's a viable source... one that can't even correctly spell 'bin Laden' (see bottom of page).

you lose. insert one credit to continue

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Originally posted by Marc Summers No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowadays with the theorists. They don't back up their claims. See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.

you are in high school, and thus, a na�ve little boy

you have much to learn about how, and why, the media spins things the way it does (i.e. your description of how/why 9/11 occurred).

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is that it can be explained by science

yeah... that's pretty much all this film deals with

next?

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Originally posted by Aureus yes, now there's a viable source... one that can't even correctly spell 'bin Laden' (see bottom of page).

There are numerous different 'western' spellings of his name. The popular one being no more accurate.

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Originally posted by Aquarian There are numerous different 'western' spellings of his name. The popular one being no more accurate.

who cares. he didn't mastermind the attacks, anyways.

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Originally posted by Aureus this isn't a political thread, just a decent American trying to steer people who aren't aware of the wool over their eyes in the right direction. in other words; if you have a problem with theis video STFU you're IGNORANT

next?

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Originally posted by Aureus who cares. he didn't mastermind the attacks, anyways. next?

So in other words, you have no argument and you're trying to change subject?

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Originally posted by flavdave I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!) http://www.911myths.com/index.html

Cool thanks. Looks pretty indebt too. Gonna check it out & see what i can gather.

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Originally posted by Aquarian So in other words, you have no argument and you're trying to change subject?

argument about the spelling of his name?

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Originally posted by Aureus you are in high school, and thus, a na�ve little boy you have much to learn about how, and why, the media spins things the way it does (i.e. your description of how/why 9/11 occurred).

lol, Right. I know how the media spins things, and that is when you do something called "Cross-referencing". And I didn't learn that in high school. You should consider reading some books about Osama Bin Laden, and his history. Sometimes, there is no small print, and things can be seen with the naked eye.

Don't assume that because I am in high school, I don't know what I am talking about. I give 45-year old teachers a run for their money when I debate them.

Maybe you should consider doing a little more than posting crackpot theories in the c0r. The PDD is there for a reason, and I never see you post there, and I think, and I can see from what you posted in this thread, that you have absolutely no valuable information to contribute.

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Originally posted by Aureus who cares. he didn't mastermind the attacks, anyways.

Apparently you did when you responded to my post.

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Originally posted by Aureus argument about the spelling of his name?

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