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Posted by breakdown on Mar-23-2001 22:46:

hehe nah..
dutchforce is M B de Goeij =p


Posted by eurotrancefla73 on Mar-24-2001 00:10:

you know, your probably right... ferry's sets are probably (i hope) much better than his compilations out... but let me tell you something... I would be embarrassed and would ruin my reputation putting stuff out like he did.. so its hard for me to respect him.. Hes got some decent stuff out, but hes not consistent. Another person who is sort of like ferry with making compilations and remixes who isnt consistent with good trance is armin v. He is hot and cold. Dont get me wrong, when armin is hot, he is at his best... and some of his sounds i love to death... and then he has got some really cheezy housy trash with his remixes and music selections.. Why cant they be consistent like vdmoor or airscape.... That is all ive got to say..


Posted by Kurve on Mar-24-2001 01:10:

nope....its Benno De Goeij!!......Johan Gielen..isnt really Dutch anyway..hes from Belgium ...but just lived in Holland for a long time!!


Posted by Denser on Mar-24-2001 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by eurotrancefla73
you know, your probably right... ferry's sets are probably (i hope) much better than his compilations out... but let me tell you something... I would be embarrassed and would ruin my reputation putting stuff out like he did.. so its hard for me to respect him.. Hes got some decent stuff out, but hes not consistent. Another person who is sort of like ferry with making compilations and remixes who isnt consistent with good trance is armin v. He is hot and cold. Dont get me wrong, when armin is hot, he is at his best... and some of his sounds i love to death... and then he has got some really cheezy housy trash with his remixes and music selections.. Why cant they be consistent like vdmoor or airscape.... That is all ive got to say..


yup...armin put out some vague stuff.i didnt like most of Basic Instinct CD1 and that stupid Stalker mix that he did of "Dont call me Baby !" .... but he's still a god to me...(damn...we mortals tolerate these gods too much ! )

u've got a good point in this consistency thing.amrin,ferry and all keep shifting tones and genres and go under different nicks and produce inconsistent stuff.

I forgot to add VDM to the list....tha man's got one name and he does too good melodic trance and excellent remixes :

Rising Star - Touch Me (VDM Mix)

Tenth Planet - Ghosts (VDM Mix)


...excellent stuff...and he's been doing it for long = god !


Posted by klumsyboy on Mar-24-2001 05:40:

Your trance god is different from mine

Mainstream trance gods dont appeal to me, they are boring and I hate their style. A lot of it is just hype...most of the tracks you guys like are slow crap. I like my trance hard and banging so my trance god is different from yours.

While we're at it, I assume we are talking about producers as in people who remix and create and not just dj cos anyone can get some good or average trax and mix them up to sound good (including yours truly)..


Oh and the likes of ATB...well anyone calling them "trance gods" need to have their heads examined. All their tracks they have remixed have their 9pm till I come riff in it in some form or another.

Paul van dyke could be considered a trance god because he has been around forever and he can produce trance tracks for ambient trance (like the track he had on trance europ express one) to commercial trance (for an angel) which sounds good.

He has been around forever back when techno started.

and I consider the likes of Sasha digweed etc to be house producers so dont mix them up with trance!


Posted by mizzuno on Mar-24-2001 16:03:

Re: Your trance god is different from mine

quote:
Originally posted by klumsyboy
Mainstream trance gods dont appeal to me, they are boring and I hate their style. A lot of it is just hype...most of the tracks you guys like are slow crap. I like my trance hard and banging so my trance god is different from yours.

While we're at it, I assume we are talking about producers as in people who remix and create and not just dj cos anyone can get some good or average trax and mix them up to sound good (including yours truly)..


Oh and the likes of ATB...well anyone calling them "trance gods" need to have their heads examined. All their tracks they have remixed have their 9pm till I come riff in it in some form or another.

Paul van dyke could be considered a trance god because he has been around forever and he can produce trance tracks for ambient trance (like the track he had on trance europ express one) to commercial trance (for an angel) which sounds good.

He has been around forever back when techno started.

and I consider the likes of Sasha digweed etc to be house producers so dont mix them up with trance!


Well if you're gonna slam our nominees then at least tell us whou would put in this category?


So basically you're saying that u can mix as well as armin?
I agree that PVD deserves that status..
Any others?


Mizzzz


Posted by klumsyboy on Mar-24-2001 22:25:

Hello! Trance Gods 2

Hi I like nrg type trance so my "God" would be the likes of Captain Tinrib

My point was to be a "God" the DJ needs to produce good stuff and not remix other people's stuff...Over here you can get a 16 year old who has gone to a mixing skool and he can go buy the latest trax and mix them up to sound good (as good as armin)...cos lets face it, its the songs that make a good mix...even if you can only mix on 2 dex...


but can the 16 yr old produce, the answer is no! So to be a God, one of the criteria would be the ability to produce consistently (read the beginning of the thread!!!)


For example, look at Gary D...his own tracks are slow and boring..but he can mix up good compilations (a la "Gary D Presentz" series) using great songs by absolom

If youre talking about DJing ability alone, Ferry Corsten, Tiesto, Andy Voigt, Jason Midro, Kimball Collins, DJ Morgan, DJ number nine, Johan Gielen are amongst my favorites...

If you talk about producers and remixers...I like Transa eg
they turned "Sparkless" by DJ Tiesto into an epic track and they have their own legendary trax out like astro dawn which is on most of my friends playlists

ok bye bye


Posted by klumsyboy on Mar-24-2001 22:34:

Hello! Trance Gods 2

Btw I also like French Trance
Scan X is a great producer/remixer
try their remix of
Aurora Borealis - Milky way




and their own tune

Earthquake


Posted by breakdown on Mar-25-2001 00:06:

french aren't renowned for the trance tho.
more of funky house?? yea.. thats it


Posted by Linx_da_cat on Mar-25-2001 01:36:

mm-hmm...yes i agree. the french is definitely more house, funky house, and a dash of hard house


Posted by Tranz on Mar-25-2001 04:28:

Trance Gods; PVD, Oakenfold, Tiesto.


Posted by mizzuno on Mar-25-2001 05:15:

Drunk

Oakies borderline...



mizzzzzuno


Posted by Kurve on Mar-25-2001 05:29:

hmmm

Im sorry no one can really give the Critierias to be a Trance GOD...... to be a Trance GOD is a Dj or Producer that touches a person in ever emotional way there is ...a dj that makes me have goosebumps just by the sounds they play...thats POWER and thats what i think a TRUE Trance GOD is!!!!!!..... and everyone has different djs/producers that make them feel that way that they consider gods and i dont think no one can tell them that those djs/producers are not gods to them.... No matter if its Alice Deejay,Dj Jean or ATB.....how crazy it may be to some people ...there are people out there that get a god feeling when they listen to there music and when they perform...and i or anyone has no right to tell them that they are not gods to them!!..... so i think god doesnt mean what the majority thinks , or the skills of there mixing, or how amazingly they can produce....its all in the indiviual !!!!!!


Posted by mizzuno on Mar-25-2001 05:59:

Re: hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by TranceCluber
Im sorry no one can really give the Critierias to be a Trance GOD...... to be a Trance GOD is a Dj or Producer that touches a person in ever emotional way there is ...a dj that makes me have goosebumps just by the sounds they play...thats POWER and thats what i think a TRUE Trance GOD is!!!!!!..... and everyone has different djs/producers that make them feel that way that they consider gods and i dont think no one can tell them that those djs/producers are not gods to them.... No matter if its Alice Deejay,Dj Jean or ATB.....how crazy it may be to some people ...there are people out there that get a god feeling when they listen to there music and when they perform...and i or anyone has no right to tell them that they are not gods to them!!..... so i think god doesnt mean what the majority thinks , or the skills of there mixing, or how amazingly they can produce....its all in the indiviual !!!!!!


Why does everyone get so excited..u don't have to agree...if u feel differently fine..but instead of explaining why ur opinion is different how about tossing up ur nominees...and i'm sure u will find people who feel the same...then again maybe not LOL.....but that doesn't mean we can't give our opinion....

Trance Gods so far
Armin
PVD
Tiesto
Ferry Corsten
*insert your God here*

Mizzuno


Posted by Kurve on Mar-25-2001 06:03:

Re: Re: hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno


Why does everyone get so excited..u don't have to agree...if u feel differently fine..but instead of explaining why ur opinion is different how about tossing up ur nominees...and i'm sure u will find people who feel the same...then again maybe not LOL.....but that doesn't mean we can't give our opinion....

Trance Gods so far
Armin
PVD
Tiesto
Ferry Corsten
*insert your God here*

Mizzuno

Your right i wasnt talking about giving people there opinion..i was talking about people telling other people that the djs they chose are not gods....
here the gods that make me feel that way similar to yours!!
PVD,Ferry,Tiesto,Armin


Posted by mizzuno on Mar-25-2001 06:06:

Re: Re: Re: hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by TranceCluber

Your right i wasnt talking about giving people there opinion..i was talking about people telling other people that the djs they chose are not gods....
here the gods that make me feel that way similar to yours!!
PVD,Ferry,Tiesto,Armin


So we're pretty much in agreement then.......LOL

Mizzzzz


Posted by Dj Chriss on Mar-25-2001 13:12:

Re: Re: hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno


Trance Gods so far
Armin
PVD
Tiesto
Ferry Corsten
VDM

Mizzuno


Posted by eurotrancefla73 on Mar-26-2001 00:46:

In choosing a "god", i do agree that it all comes down to taste, but more importantly- experienced having heard all producers...When i first really got into listening to trance, yeah i might have said pvd and paul o were decent....But my music exploration began and i wouldnt think twice about listening to either one now... In fact, they are quite boring to me. There is just soo much better stuff out there... And you know what... as i explore more and more, i find always seem to find unbelievable/different sounding tunes... So for you to call someone a god and not really explore the genre, id think before you write. For anyone that will write ferry corsten, paul o, pvd, sasha/digweed gods, i will say- this person does not know his trance... Now vincent de moor/gielen-airscape/benno de gaij, dj robert gitelman, absolom--- now these could be considered.....I really enjoy thrillseeker tunes/remixes too..


Posted by mizzuno on Oct-31-2003 18:20:

Ok i just thought i would resurrect this 2 year old thread because it has some bearing on the top 100 dj's....look through the replys....can anyone say SPOT ON!

To all the old school ta's this should be a journey back to a time when music discussion was top quality...


Note: this thread was started in March 2001...

Mizzuno

SHI SHi!


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