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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery No, those are different.

how? wtf does the "could care less" one mean then?

"this is very shit, but still not as shit as possible, so i care a bit, but could care a bit less if it were a bit shittier"?

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Originally posted by r5a WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

stop feeding the trolls

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Originally posted by skip who the fuck is KT?

BT's cousin.

To clear up some confusion for all the people who keep making up their own story...

Quoted from: http://www.etn.fm/news.asp?id=275

Ok, so.. I made a blog post on MySpace about ETN losing it's stream sponsor (true) and next thing I know every dance music forum is lit up with people overjoyed that we're closing down (not true yet sorry).

The reason I didn't post that information to any forums is because forums (except ours of course are filled with people with nothing better to do than bitch and flame... plus I've had many years of internet broadcasting to make enemies, partly because I used to be a forum trawler who would get into stupid arguments or flamewars. (now I only do that in the chatroom)

anyway, I wanted to make a much different post but I don't have time right now and I need to get this on the main page to try to combat all the misinformation that's being circulated.

FACT: yes, I did write that blog entry that's gotten pasted around all over the place

FICTION: it says that we're shutting down

FACT: Our primary stream sponsor is shutting down their entire shoutcast hosting program at the end of June

FICTION: DI killed ETN. They have the same sponsor we do it's just that since they're a commercial entity with plenty of subscribers and advertising revenue, they are not dependant on the sponsor like we are

FACT: Every person associated with ETN and even a few that aren't are doing their best to find us another stream sponsor so we can continue with no interruptions

FICTION: ETN is full of "second rate bedroom DJs that love the sound of playing to themselves and really have no talent and have never played the club scene"

FACT: every person who says that is talking out of their ass and dosen't know shit about ETN and we're better off that they aren't part of our community

FICTION: ETN is shutting down at the end of June.
Yes, shutting down is an option. It's one of several including finding another sponsor or merging with another station. When we know something for certain, so will you. via THIS website. Don't believe a fucking thing you hear about us on any forum other than our own

FACT: We have always been, and always will be a station wholly supported by our community. We make no money and therefore can only survive by donations... be they cash, hardware, bandwith, or talent.

FACT: ETN will NEVER be a subscription/pay station while Will is involved

FICTION: ETN closing would be the end of shows by [insert your favorite DJ/show here]

FACT: if ETN has to close down, I will be personally facilitating as many shows as possible getting moved to other stations. Some of you are going to be very suprised where I send some shows to (if it comes to that)

FACT: The only thing we need to survive is bandwith. If you or anyone you know is in a position to donate large (and I mean LARGE) amounts of bandwith in exchange for advertisement as our sponsor, please get them in touch with me as soon as possible. My email is will at etn.fm

peace, love and lollipops
Will

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Originally posted by E-vangelist via Petrogad Quoted from: http://www.etn.fm/news.asp?id=275 Ok, so.. I made a blog post on MySpace about ETN losing it's stream sponsor (true) and next thing I know every dance music forum is lit up with people overjoyed that we're closing down (not true yet sorry). The reason I didn't post that information to any forums is because forums (except ours of course are filled with people with nothing better to do than bitch and flame...

In part yes, but these make themselves idiots - for each and everyone visible - simply put. Others stay in a constructive mood or just show sadness.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist via Petrogad FACT: Our primary stream sponsor is shutting down their entire shoutcast hosting program at the end of June

Not sad, really. I never had so many stream outages before, most of the ETN stream servers haven't been available lately (except most often the SFO and / or the IL server). I do NOT mean the "ETN is heavily buffering" story, to make that clear. One year ago the stream was extremely reliable but that changed during the last few months.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist via Petrogad FICTION: ETN is shutting down at the end of June. Yes, shutting down is an option. It's one of several including finding another sponsor or merging with another station. When we know something for certain, so will you. FACT: The only thing we need to survive is bandwith. If you or anyone you know is in a position to donate large (and I mean LARGE) amounts of bandwith in exchange for advertisement as our sponsor, please get them in touch with me as soon as possible. My email is will at etn.fm peace, love and lollipops Will

A new sponsor would certainly be better than the old one. Definitely. I can't help but I wish you luck.

Neo wins this thread

KT = Kenneth Thomas.

I just hate the fact that the tlist forum is spammed by this junk

just post it on the etn boards or something


Seeing bedroom djs post back and forth with 1-3 other people is pretty sad imo

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Originally posted by Tayfoon I just hate the fact that the tlist forum is spammed by this junk just post it on the etn boards or something Seeing bedroom djs post back and forth with 1-3 other people is pretty sad imo

Yet you keep on replying. Over.


And over.



And over.



And over.



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With the same worthless arguments every time.

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Originally posted by Ian I'd tend to disagree here. Tranceaddict became shit when people joined to spam their radio show, their digital label, their gigs, labels spamming events, and when the site became less about 'discussion' and more about promotion. It's become generally accepted nowadays that people can't say anything negative, even if it's constructive, and that's where it's all gone wrong. One piece of constructively written criticism can do more good than 100 fanboys talking out of their arses. Sadly now anybody who disagrees is a hater or whatever. What people need to remember is that without tranceaddict, the biggest community of it's kind, most of these shows, sites, stations, labels would have any sort of following, or nowhere near as good as they do. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Well said.

...with way too many people pretending they didn't read rule #2 of the sig guidelines.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT KT = Kenneth Thomas.

never heard

I agree with Wickedneo on this one. I also agree with the spaming on Tranceaddict.com. Thats is the reason why ETN created a forum just for the spammers and discussion.

I remember Armin van Buuren once said, "Trance use to be a cool word." Whatever happened to it? I guess its the flaming and just down right ignorant users whos not pleased with the big boys productions. These flamers wants more and more and more, even someone like Ferry Corsten who did a remake of Galaxia gets flamed. I just don't understand anymore. This is reason why attend to stay away from COR or the Music Discussion board, because its flamers who are literally fucking up Tranceaddict.com

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo ETN right from the start was attracting 500 plus listeners daily, where did you get your listener figure from? Question: if you was booked into a club and only had 25 ppl in front of you, would you just stop and leave the decks or would you carry on? As for ETN it was not as if you was doing your set live, for all we know you could have been playing your latest demo cd but thats not the issue, surely playing for a station like ETN, your purpose is to entertain, even if only one person listened to you and was entertained, then have you not accomplished what you set out to achieve? Your role as a producer and a DJ is to entertain and the amount of ppl you entertain should not come into it I am sure also that you intended to use ETN as another way of promoting yourself, to get yourself more widely known which is not a problem as a great many DJ's including myself also use ETN as a way of promoting ourselves, BUT remember this, it was a FREE way of promoting yourself, all you had to do is give 2 hours of your time once a month or week depending on your schedule, not really a great price to pay for a bit of free promotion eh. A great many more DJ's and producers that are on ETN that are more succesful than yourself, have no problem with the station or others of similar ilk as its a way to express themselves, entertain those who listen to the stations and the added bonus of free promotion. It's also a means of communicating with those who PAY to go see them DJ or PAY to buy thier productions, they get great feedback from those who listen to ETN and it's not all arse kissing, they get a lot of constructive feedback which helps to ensure the future of trance and also to explore new dimensions of trance which helps keep it fresh. ETN who provides a free service to all those that listen provide quality programming for little or no recompense, the staff and DJ's of ETN do it purely because they love our genre of music and without stations like ETN, trance and it's subgenres would not be as diverse and as popular as it is.

i dont think its on to have a go at me for not continuing my show. no where did i sign a contract saying "i, mike foyle hereby commit to entertaining the nation, this is my purpose in life." All i said was I didnt feel it was worth my while. I would rather do the odd guestmix on stations like DI.fm. Also the reputation of Internet radio djs became so poor that I didnt really want to get too involved. you can tell by this thread alone that the perception of internet djs is "bedroom djs" etc etc. whether or not that is true i would rather not be thought of as one of them. promotion isnt an issue at all either. there are other ways of promoting music and while i think its great that etn is a free service and has good interests in mind, it was not for me, so what?

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle Also the reputation of Internet radio djs became so poor that I didnt really want to get too involved. you can tell by this thread alone that the perception of internet djs is "bedroom djs" etc etc.

I disagree on this point. I'm fed up with those fu**ed Arminish tunes we heard every thursday night, and 1 month later, on the bags of every DJs...

Some of the best tunes i heard last year were played on ETN show by the likes of thomas datt, georges hales, luke terry, and this year i'm in love with sean tyas show on ETN

So what? Should I only go to clubs with Armin, ferry, PvD.... ??? I'll kill to see guys like thomas and georges in a club, bur for the moment, the only way to listen to their sets is to be connected to ETN

i've also met some guys from the crew @ some event, and i'm proud to prefer ETN to DI.fm

keep on listening to ASOT if ya want some average tunes, try Sonicvibe, t Datt, G Hales and L Terry's shows f you want some massive tunes who, unfortunately, won't be released since they're not armin playlisted

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Originally posted by severnayaprods I disagree on this point. I'm fed up with those fu**ed Arminish tunes we heard every thursday night, and 1 month later, on the bags of every DJs... Some of the best tunes i heard last year were played on ETN show by the likes of thomas datt, georges hales, luke terry, and this year i'm in love with sean tyas show on ETN So what? Should I only go to clubs with Armin, ferry, PvD.... ??? I'll kill to see guys like thomas and georges in a club, bur for the moment, the only way to listen to their sets is to be connected to ETN i've also met some guys from the crew @ some event, and i'm proud to prefer ETN to DI.fm keep on listening to ASOT if ya want some average tunes, try Sonicvibe, t Datt, G Hales and L Terry's shows f you want some massive tunes who, unfortunately, won't be released since they're not armin playlisted

im not saying i agree with it, far from it. im just saying thats the perception generally. and like i said you can tell just from reading this thread. i dont want anyone to think im criticising the djs on etn at all. im sure most of them are great djs.

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Originally posted by severnayaprods I disagree on this point. I'm fed up with those fu**ed Arminish tunes we heard every thursday night, and 1 month later, on the bags of every DJs... Some of the best tunes i heard last year were played on ETN show by the likes of thomas datt, georges hales, luke terry, and this year i'm in love with sean tyas show on ETN So what? Should I only go to clubs with Armin, ferry, PvD.... ??? I'll kill to see guys like thomas and georges in a club, bur for the moment, the only way to listen to their sets is to be connected to ETN i've also met some guys from the crew @ some event, and i'm proud to prefer ETN to DI.fm keep on listening to ASOT if ya want some average tunes, try Sonicvibe, t Datt, G Hales and L Terry's shows f you want some massive tunes who, unfortunately, won't be released since they're not armin playlisted

I think most of these DJs did themselves a diservice because if you notice. ASOT has stopped doing XL shows because everybody has their own show now, so it made no sense to have them also as guests on ASOT. ALso GDJB used to have 2 guests per week. Now they only do guests every other week and I also have noticed they dont book DJs who have their own shows someplace else.

It seemed like when DJs were booked for ASOT or GDJB they would always bring a great set. You could tell that time was put into making it something special. Now it seems like these guys are just throwing something together to fulfill their comitment to ETN.

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Will on the ETN page *UPDATE: The closer we get to the end of June, the LESS likely it looks that ETN will close down. It WAS a POSSIBILITY and still is, but "possible" and "certain" are two very different concepts. Looks like all the ETN haters started the celebration a bit prematurely, as fools often do. I'm tempted to have a little grammar lesson but it would probably just be a waste of my time

Good news for ETN, sad news for all the idiotic ETN haters... Still check this thread for meaningful comments, a few have been posted...

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Will on the ETN page Thanks for all the free promotion, I couldn't have done a better job myself!

Only no news are bad news as you certainly will know

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