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Posted by blacknoizybox on Jan-13-2007 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
* doesn't eat any fresh fruit or veg


Posted by DFOP04 on Jan-13-2007 17:08:

just come in the booth, seen the title of this thread "how much longer is vinyl going to live", saw 7 pages of replies, didnt read whats been going on, but its the same old.
the answer to your question is 'as long as this thread', its always a discussion in the booth section, same old opinions, it will never change.

dfop


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-13-2007 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DFOP04
just come in the booth, seen the title of this thread "how much longer is vinyl going to live", saw 7 pages of replies, didnt read whats been going on, but its the same old.
the answer to your question is 'as long as this thread', its always a discussion in the booth section, same old opinions, it will never change.

dfop

Yeah, vinyl dies when people stop asking


Posted by Spirit5 on Jan-13-2007 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Yeah, vinyl dies when people stop asking


Uh vinyl has been around only since 48? I thought vinyl was one of the first mediums...around the turn of the century after Edison invented the phonograph. I mean I know it was a joke you were making, just wanting that clarified.


Posted by Devil Bunny on Jan-13-2007 22:15:

Nope, before there was Vinyl there was shellac, the record concept has been around forever, but the material used to make the record has changed quite a bit over time.


Posted by chris harrington on Jan-13-2007 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Vinyl will officially die: September 21st, 2007 at 8:22am.



i better buy a lot right now then


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-14-2007 11:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
Uh vinyl has been around only since 48? I thought vinyl was one of the first mediums...around the turn of the century after Edison invented the phonograph. I mean I know it was a joke you were making, just wanting that clarified.

I Googled it quickly, could well have been a crap source or I might not have read it properly haha



Right, I've just checked the fountain of all knowledge that is Wikipedia and you're right in that the first phonograph was made around 1878, but they used cylinders. Discs were introduced in 1888 and records then were made out of hard rubber. The use of vinyl to make records from wasn't introduced commercially until 1930, although from its introduction in 1897 until the mid 1950s shellac was more common for them to be made out of.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jan-14-2007 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Vinyl will officially die: September 21st, 2007 at 8:22am.



quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
**THE OFFICIAL ANSWER**
59.47 years, which means it'll die this coming summer.


Thats a ridiculous coincidence


Posted by Zild on Jan-14-2007 19:36:

Just because vinyl isn't the medium of choice for working DJs anymore doesn't mean it is going to dissapear.


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-15-2007 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Thats a ridiculous coincidence

September's only summer down under

Here, summer ends in August (generally)... so I guess that must mean that vinyl will last a little longer in Oz


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-15-2007 03:35:

Re: How much longer is vinyl going to live?

Oh and I thought I should point out that you may regret this comment:
quote:
Originally posted by BobTheSlob
Digital till I die.


When noise reduction technology (ok yeah it's a fair way off yet but may well happen in our lifetimes) gets good enough you might even see analogue technologies coming back in


Posted by MR.E on Jan-26-2007 21:14:

cd's will disappear before vinyl...it's been around longer than any other medium + you'll never get a sound as good as on vinyl... even with all the technology that is around! djs don't use them as much because they are lazy.. technology makes ppl lazy and enables anybody to become a dj with or without talent nor taste...


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jan-26-2007 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by MR.E
cd's will disappear before vinyl...it's been around longer than any other medium + you'll never get a sound as good as on vinyl... even with all the technology that is around! djs don't use them as much because they are lazy.. technology makes ppl lazy and enables anybody to become a dj with or without talent nor taste...



God, that's such a vinyl fanatic comment right there. "not as good sound" my ass.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jan-26-2007 21:25:

So a track produced on a computer, in full digital using VST's and virtual instruments... then later etched onto a metal master disc, used to stamp a piece of plastic... which you then playback by dragging a needle through the groove, will sound better than playing the original file directly? Explain that one to me. It'll sound "different", it'll have that vinyl scratchy sound, but that doesn't make it better.

Now if you tried to tell me that a jazz or classical recording, recorded fully using analog gear, and then expertly mastered to vinyl would sound better than the equivalent CD recording... now that argument might have more weight to it (not much, but at least there are points to be made).

DJ's are not buying much vinyl anymore because it just doesn't make any sense. It's not going away fully, ever. But for all practical intents and purposes, it's not a viable DJ media for the future. Get over it. $12 for a song that will only be musically relevant for 2 months is non-sensical.

As for CD's...

CD's are just carriers for digital files for DJ's. Everyone I know who uses CD's uses discs they burned themselves, from files off the internet.

When people say CD's are going to go away, I say they were never here in the first place! We NEVER went into Virgin records and bought underground EDM singles to play out. That whole distribution idea never happened in this genre.

As a cheap, simple, reliable, and disposable way to carry your digital files into a club and play on standardized equipment, CD's aren't half bad.

quote:
Originally posted by MR.E
cd's will disappear before vinyl...it's been around longer than any other medium + you'll never get a sound as good as on vinyl... even with all the technology that is around! djs don't use them as much because they are lazy.. technology makes ppl lazy and enables anybody to become a dj with or without talent nor taste...


Posted by ThatsMagic on Jan-26-2007 23:39:

One could ask how long do the CDJ's have left?
People might just plug a harddrive into a digital turntable/mixer device somthing like them crapy ipod mixers but made by with quality in mind.

Just think if pioneer relased a cdj that plays CD's and hooks up to a hardrive no scratches, warp, skip, it might even fit in your back pocket.


Posted by |Thrax| on Jan-27-2007 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Vinyl will officially die: September 21st, 2007 at 8:22am.



unpossible, my birthday is the next day.



haha


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