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Originally posted by Jayx1 But gosh, how have we lasted hundreds of years without tree cutting permits? Surely we must be grateful that we made it to 2006 alive without such government supervision!

You make some of the worst points, ever.

the idea of not being able to park on your street is completely stupid and incomprehensible.

this is bullshit, just another way for the guvernment to make money, home owner should be able to do what he wants to do on HIS property, If he wants to park cars on his lawn he should be able to, it is his land isn't it? or is it public? wtf!

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess hmm, are they going to make people have perfect grass and tulips every year?

lol i wouldn't be surprised, and they'll ticket you soon if you scratch your head the wrong way lol

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Originally posted by geroin while i agree im guessing its in case of a fire during the night? or maybe because of the garbage pick up..

If that were the case, then why would they allow parking on the street during the day? Do emergencies only happen at night? Why do people downtown get to park on streets, garage and/or driveway or not? The roads in those subdivisions are wide enough. Actually worried about emergencies? Then allow parking on 1 side of the road.

There is NO reason why cars cant park on the street at night. The stupid thing is, in Thornhill, you could park til 2am. So, a law is in effect for a whole whopping 4-6 hrs of the night, when no one will be bothered with the site of cars on street anyways?
S-T-U-P-I-D!!!

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar +1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Is that binary??

only a few understand computer-eeze

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Originally posted by tw1tch You make some of the worst points, ever.

How is that a bad point?

Explain to me how we have lived so long without so many government regulations? Did everyone suddenly take a stupid pill?

I think the answer is that everyone suddenly got selfish and politicians are reacting. ie) i dont like that so im going to get them to make a law about it

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Is that binary?? only a few understand computer-eeze

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le gay!

although what they need to do in sauga and brampton is make it illegal for you to have a house with 50 people and 50 cars and park all the cars on the road and none on the driveway. wtf is up with that?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 a tree cutting permit has only been in place in toronto for a few years. Building permits are for fire codes, safety etc. Tree cutting permit is so that neighbours can bitch and tell you to leave your tree up. Why not? If they dont like what the next door neighbour is up to then they should move to where next door neighbours are not within field of vision from your house. ie) the countryside. Im sick of all these laws that are in place because "it might offend someone's sense of good taste". TOO FREAKING BAD!!!

what I'm saying is that I don't know if ALL trees are owned by the property owner (as two of the four on my parents' property belonged to the crown).

As for "offending someone's good taste"...no...property value impact has nothing to do with MY good taste...if people won't buy my home because it's next to your dump that doesn't come close to conforming to the neighbourhood, that's a problem that's beyond any other person's sense of "good taste". That's causing a tangible harm to the surrounding properties.

^ I see "bad upkeep of the exterior of the house" as being outlawed next.

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Originally posted by MarkT As for "offending someone's good taste"...no...property value impact has nothing to do with MY good taste...if people won't buy my home because it's next to your dump that doesn't come close to conforming to the neighbourhood, that's a problem that's beyond any other person's sense of "good taste". That's causing a tangible harm to the surrounding properties.

LOL, I thought you'd be more worried about the value on foreclosure!!!

:P

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur ^ I see "bad upkeep of the exterior of the house" as being outlawed next.

It already is. You have to mow your lawn every so often. The length the grass is allowed to grow varies based upon the municipality.

How often do I have to paint my garage door?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur How often do I have to paint my garage door?

Every 25 years

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Originally posted by MarkT what I'm saying is that I don't know if ALL trees are owned by the property owner (as two of the four on my parents' property belonged to the crown). As for "offending someone's good taste"...no...property value impact has nothing to do with MY good taste...if people won't buy my home because it's next to your dump that doesn't come close to conforming to the neighbourhood, that's a problem that's beyond any other person's sense of "good taste". That's causing a tangible harm to the surrounding properties.

Then my friend, due to the lack of for a better solution, all I have to say is : TOO FUCKING BAD. Someone is going to dictate what colour i should paint my house? there is something wrong with our society . I don't freaking telling you what colour underwear to wear.

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Originally posted by weema Then my friend, due to the lack of for a better solution, all I have to say is : TOO FUCKING BAD. Someone is going to dictate what colour i should paint my house? there is something wrong with our society . I don't freaking telling you what colour underwear to wear.

Sorry to turn this around I really don't have time to debate. But I think the TOO FUCKING BAD comment everyone is throwing out there is actually towards those who disagree with the new law.

Too many people walking down that slipperly slope of exaggeration. There are LOTS of laws that suck ass. BUT guess what? They are law so TOO FUCKING BAD!

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Originally posted by TO guy LOL, I thought you'd be more worried about the value on foreclosure!!! :P

It differs from province to province, but homeowners are much more protected from that than in many U.S. states.


and yeah, as mentioned, bad upkeep is already subject to bylaws.

you don't cut your grass, you leave trash on your lawn, let your house degrade, etc...you will be ordered to remove/maintain it.

it's kind of funny that some people think these new bylaws are coming from right out of nowhere as if we currently have unlimited control over our property

the new laws may still be "bad", of course...but *some* laws are reasonable.

But if we just let them pass whatever laws they want under the premise that "it's not like these laws are anything new", then one day we might find outselves waking up without any freedoms at all, and it'll be too late to do anything about it. How much is too much?

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Originally posted by MarkT conforming

this is the word that is whats wrong with canada and why we are such a boring and whiney place.

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Originally posted by weema Then my friend, due to the lack of for a better solution, all I have to say is : TOO FUCKING BAD. Someone is going to dictate what colour i should paint my house? there is something wrong with our society . I don't freaking telling you what colour underwear to wear.

Exactly....

TOO FUCKING BAD is exactly what i say.

They guy up the street from me painted his garage light blue. It looks like shit. I dont like it. But should they make a law about it? NOPE

If i dont want the risk of others with bad taste living close to me, its up to ME to make sure that i dont live close to them.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Sorry to turn this around I really don't have time to debate. But I think the TOO FUCKING BAD comment everyone is throwing out there is actually towards those who disagree with the new law. Too many people walking down that slipperly slope of exaggeration. There are LOTS of laws that suck ass. BUT guess what? They are law so TOO FUCKING BAD!

aaaah but laws can always be changed back...


as may happen in markham...

The too fucking bad idea is for those who dont like the tastes and styles of other peoples yards etc.


Its funny that only lisa has commented on my cemetary story.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur But if we just let them pass whatever laws they want under the premise that "it's not like these laws are anything new", then one day we might find outselves waking up without any freedoms at all, and it'll be too late to do anything about it. How much is too much?

Read my tagline

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur But if we just let them pass whatever laws they want under the premise that "it's not like these laws are anything new", then one day we might find outselves waking up without any freedoms at all, and it'll be too late to do anything about it. How much is too much?

"whatever they want"...hell no.

I'm all for holding new laws up to some reasonable standard. This goes for *any* law.

Is *this* law good? I dunno...personally it seems to be a bit much. I don't believe in unlimited freedom though...because selfish, lazy and violent people *will* abuse that freedom and ruin it for the rest of us.

Most people here are educated and/or employed and have some sense of decency and consideration for others...there are a LOT of people out there who just don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves.

would anyone like to live somewhere for 5, 10, 20 years...make a home for themselves that's special to them...then be either forced to TRY to sell or put up with someone who buys next door and let's the place turn into a shithole with an overgrown lawn, trash piling up on the property, windows smashed, paint peeling, etc?

there's a middle ground between unreasonably restrictive laws and unlimited freedom to do as one pleases...finding it may be tough though, since you can't please everyone.

it again goes back to being able to do whatever you want, providing it doesn't harm anyone else or unduly prevent them from also doing what they want. fucking up your neighbours property value by paving over 75% of your property falls under this, IMHO.

(the cemetary story is good...I think that's a ridiculous that they are removing items)

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Originally posted by MarkT would anyone like to live somewhere for 5, 10, 20 years...make a home for themselves that's special to them...then be either forced to TRY to sell or put up with someone who buys next door and let's the place turn into a shithole with an overgrown lawn, trash piling up on the property, windows smashed, paint peeling, etc?

Luckily, the rednecks and white trash don't have enough moeny to move into nice neighbourhoods and start fucking things up there. In the end, it kind of works out without any laws - people who have enough money to move themselves into nice neighbourhoods do so, and living in a nice neighbourhood and paying all that money for your house is an incentive to look after your property. People who don't give a shit end up in the ghetto, and there, a paved-oved driveway is not the primary concern.

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