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Posted by Jayx1 on Jul-20-2006 16:22:

kytracid, i couldnt have said it better myself.

The agressors are hezbollah and they are to blame for this. Whether Israel's response is excessive or not is a moot point. If Hezbollah/Lebonese didnt want any force, excessive or not, to be used against them then they wouldnt have provoked Israel in the first place.

I take no sides in this issue. And i feel very bad for innocents on both sides of the border. But the power is definately in the hands of the southern lebonese population. If the shiite muslims in Southern Lebonon were to reject Hezbollah and it's actions, it would be very difficult for them to exist. As it is, they support Hezbollah and actually elect them to parliament!! The reason the Lebonese government is forced to let Hezbollah act with impunity is because if they didnt, the country would probably be forced back into civil war.

I feel sorry for the non hezbollah supporting Lebonese. I also feel sorry for the Israelis. But as for the hezbollah supporters I say this... What did you expect? really?

Hezbollah would not be able to exist in the form that it does now if it werent supported by a majority of the civilians in southern lebanon.

Imagine if a province in Canada were to elect al qaeda to parliament and then al qaeda started shelling vermont. You dont think the US would react?

Now replace the word Canada with Lebanon, al qaeda with hezbollah, and US with Israel and i think you might get the picture.

Posted by magikb on Jul-20-2006 17:45:

very glad to hear Karim and his dad are ok and my thoughts are with him and the rest of his family there as they go through this.

Posted by Jayx1 on Jul-20-2006 18:52:

They will help rebuild sbout as much as syria, iran and hezbollah are going to rebuild the parts of israel they are bombing id say...

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jul-20-2006 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Not to mention that in the current conflict it's of US interest that Israel destroys Hesbullah.

See the funny thing is that Israel is destroying a whole lot more than just the "Hesbullah". They're practically levelling the whole country. Are there any plans to compensate the innocent people of Lebanon who lost EVERYTHING because of Israeli bombs? Is Israel going to rebuild all the roads and bridges they destroyed, and left all those innocent people stranded?

But yea...Israel has the right to defend itself; by taking over a country, and killing more innocent people in one raid than the total number of kills Hezbollah has gotten in a 2-week span.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jul-20-2006 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
They will help rebuild sbout as much as syria, iran and hezbollah are going to rebuild the parts of israel they are bombing id say...

Well if we're talking about Hezbollah building and property, then fuck it. What about the rest of the country though, that has nothing to do with Hezbollah but is still getting blown up?

Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-20-2006 19:07:

So glad to hear Karim and his dad made it out safe! Thank the universe.

What a weight that will be off of Katys mind! I couldnt imagine dealing with worrynig about a loved one being over there!

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I have been also reading Karim's blog.

Jeez, feel so outta the loop, I didnt even realize he had a blog and was updating it with his sitch over there.

Posted by rabbitjoker on Jul-20-2006 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
...

I have always had an immense amount of respect for you and this post is further proof as to why.

Posted by sticky_shoes on Jul-20-2006 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
When history has proved time and again, that violence only begets violence.

If we can only learn from history and try to find a solution to break this cycle of violence...

Posted by Jayx1 on Jul-20-2006 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Well if we're talking about Hezbollah building and property, then fuck it. What about the rest of the country though, that has nothing to do with Hezbollah but is still getting blown up?

the people who support hezbollah which include many of the so called innocent civilians should think about that.

Posted by Jayx1 on Jul-20-2006 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
See the funny thing is that Israel is destroying a whole lot more than just the "Hesbullah". They're practically levelling the whole country. Are there any plans to compensate the innocent people of Lebanon who lost EVERYTHING because of Israeli bombs? Is Israel going to rebuild all the roads and bridges they destroyed, and left all those innocent people stranded?

But yea...Israel has the right to defend itself; by taking over a country, and killing more innocent people in one raid than the total number of kills Hezbollah has gotten in a 2-week span.

hezbollah is destroying civilian targets at random. what about that?

Posted by starsearcher on Jul-20-2006 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
See the funny thing is that Israel is destroying a whole lot more than just the "Hesbullah". They're practically levelling the whole country.

I have a problem with that statement because you haven't been there and you don't know what exactly is being leveled. Leveling the whole country? doubtful...the strikes are very percise and very targeted at only specific areas...this is not carpet bombing.

Regardless though the damage is harsh

Posted by dallastar on Jul-20-2006 20:11:

On the cover of the Toronto Star

Beirut Chaos 2,000 Canadian left behind on the first day of evacuation!!!!!!!!!!!!! So all these people had to carry their luggage to Berlits port and most were denied entry onto the boat! Onlly 261 Canadians got on that ship So there is over a thousand people still stranded their. Only one out of seven ships arrived there, this is not looking good.

Poor people there! I hate WAR! WAR SUCKS!!!!!!!

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jul-20-2006 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
hezbollah is destroying civilian targets at random. what about that?

Barely any, but it is Hezbollah's intent, Which is wrong. I'm not trying to defend Hezbollah here, or justify their actions in any way. I'm just criticising Israel's carelessness and lack of foresight.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jul-20-2006 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Leveling the whole country? doubtful...the strikes are very percise and very targeted at only specific areas...

Ok I didn't mean "levelling" the whole country literally, but it's not as precise and targetted at only specific area's. Did you read karim's blog? Or any other newsreport that talks about how over-the-top Israel is doing this? It's pretty obvious that the Israeli army could completely obliterate the Hezbollah, and Isreali is pounding away at them with no restraints whatsoever...just look at the casualty numbers from both sides.

Anyways, screw this. This isn't a political discussion thread so I'll leave that talk to another thread.

Posted by dallastar on Jul-20-2006 21:50:

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