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Why do people call this new shit "Electro"? It is NOT Electro...Ferry Corsten, Alter Ego and whoever else comes out with a socalled Elctro tune is a joke to real Electro.

You want Electro? go listen to Egyptian Lover and you will know what Electro sounds like.

And Tech-House will probally be the next big genre...at least thats how it seems to be heading....either or i dont give a shit cus i like Tribal House and that shit will never become mainstream. And yes i hate when mainstream cats listen to what i do...simply cus they drain it for all its worth and leave it to rot...look at Studio 54..one of the best examples of the massess fucking shit up.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Trentemoller (and I LOVE the Trentemoller)

Trentemoller is awesome. he just need to update his tracklists and come out with new productions.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Minimal is the next big buzzword.

agreed.
but like any genre, too much can drive you mad

Next big thing for me is Drum and Bass(good lookin style) - it has everything: emotion,awesome rhytem and great sounds but unfurtunatly i don't have the time to explore the ganre

Im amazed with people who listen to all these "tech" things...it have nothing at all to do with trance...all this tech-trance is starting to hurt my fav. trance artists like Thomas datt,MIDOR etc...i pretty much hate it,i wish there was more seperation with Trance\house artists and Tech trance artists

i rather see the good Electro on "top",that way Minimal and psy
will remain where they should be and wouldnt get hurt in the eyes of its fans and prog will remain unharmed,its the perfect solution

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Originally posted by JM hell yeah i totally agree! ive got mad respect for the djs that didnt jump on the bandwagon... and im missing the boat here, but wtf is minimal? somebody post a link or something to a "minimal" track plz!!! >JM<

Trentemoller - Chameleon

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Originally posted by Ivand Trentemoller is awesome. he just need to update his tracklists and come out with new productions.

Hey, you want it done right or do you want it done quickly?

I'm glad we have someone who actually takes time with his work, chooses quality over quantity, instead of just shitting out preset-ladened tracks with half-ideas and flooding the market with mediocrity, like many, MANY trance buffoons I'm sure we can all name.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Hey, you want it done right or do you want it done quickly? I'm glad we have someone who actually takes time with his work, chooses quality over quantity, instead of just shitting out preset-ladened tracks with half-ideas and flooding the market with mediocrity, like many, MANY trance buffoons I'm sure we can all name.

+1...I can wait a year or so for a new track...just make it count.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Well, to start with, there's a whole shitload of things wrong with your statement anyway. To acknowledge Rocker's popularity but not Satisfaction's, which predated it by a good two years? ....why? Because as you claim, the former was underground and the latter was mainstream? What the hell does that mean? They're both equally commercial club records. They were BOTH underground releases that became mainstream due to the reception, however you want to slice it. But Satisfaction was a massively more successful hit, and really put the "ELECTRO" stamp into the public lexicon. Again: It's Felix da Housecat that did it all, that finally linked electroclash (which was mostly a sleazy NY punk thing at the time) with house music. Kitten and de Glitz was the most important release to the growth of "electro" music in the last five years. Electronic music does not officially begin the year you started clubbing.

My point about Satisfaction is that it got so popular that all the "respected underground djs" (aka those who rank high in the dj mag poll, except ATB, Sammy and the likes) didn't play it as it was deemed cheesy, something Rocker did not suffer from. Felix da Housecat IMO looks more like a serious candidate for starting it, and I'll admit I haven't followed his releases with attention, so fair enough.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Hey, you want it done right or do you want it done quickly? I'm glad we have someone who actually takes time with his work, chooses quality over quantity, instead of just shitting out preset-ladened tracks with half-ideas and flooding the market with mediocrity, like many, MANY trance buffoons I'm sure we can all name.

ok, but if you hear a set from him from 2005 and one from 2006 you'll hear the same songs all over again

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Originally posted by paranoik0 My point about Satisfaction is that it got so popular that all the "respected underground djs" (aka those who rank high in the dj mag poll, except ATB, Sammy and the likes) didn't play it as it was deemed cheesy, something Rocker did not suffer from.

No.

They stopped playing it because it was overplayed...because it was more popular than Rocker, having broke electro into the mainstream, something Rocker did not do, thus rendering your argument into dust.

And all the "respected, underground DJs" aren't on any DJ mag polls. That's why they're respected and underground. The DJs on DJ mag polls are socially aggressive attention whores who play feather-lite pap. Rather poorly.

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Originally posted by dj_palm the only djs not playing minimal was tiesto and pvd

They will jump on the bandwagon later.

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Originally posted by Ishkur And all the "respected, underground DJs" aren't on any DJ mag polls. That's why they're respected and underground. The DJs on DJ mag polls are socially aggressive attention whores who play feather-lite pap. Rather poorly.

To give him some credit, I believe the use of quote marks meant he didn't personally regard them as respected or underground, rather the majority do and he was quoting them.

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Originally posted by Ishkur they were formerly punk groups who picked up analog synths somewhere along the way.

as a former artist on dischord records, I can tell that ishkur's statement is totally historically accurate, at least for me personally.

Melodic, chilly and spacey progressive house, trance and breaks from guys like Andrew K, Bart van Wissen, Benz & MD, Blue Room Project, Boom Jinx, Cassino & Laben, Cates & DPL, Clubbervision, Damien Heck, Darioef, Derek Howell, DJ Tarkan, Digital Witchcraft, Jay Lumen, Joel Armstrong, Jordan Daniel, Madoka, Matthew Dekay, Moonbeam, Opencloud, Peter McCowan, Pinkbox Special, Ray Calman, Retroid, Shiloh, Snake Sedrick, Storyteller, Subsky, The Last Atlant, V-Sag, Yvel & Tristan and many others. These guys I think are really talented and produce really enjoyable music IMO. Could definitely see more of these guys getting popular, and many already are. Yeah I know prog house has been around a while and has been popular, but these guys produce stuff that has more melody, and is rhythmic too, which I prefer to some of the other prog stuff that is mostly rhythm. It's not really Markus Schulz or Armin stuff....they hardly play any of these guy's stuff except maybe Matthew Dekay or Boom Jinx.

i think psy-trance is getting alot of attention now adays. minimal is ehh, isnt that the style James Holden plays? if so i saw him a few months back and it had me dancing but was a little too boring IMO

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Originally posted by hiram i think psy-trance is getting alot of attention now adays. minimal is ehh, isnt that the style James Holden plays? if so i saw him a few months back and it had me dancing but was a little too boring IMO

no, its the music James Holden laughs at

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Originally posted by Viber no, its the music James Holden laughs at

what style does he play then? i didnt know much about him but kept hearing he puts on a good show.. i couldnt call it house or any variation of it and deff wasnt trance.. some sort of prog maybe?

psytrance

psytrance

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Originally posted by Ishkur Minimal is the next big buzzword. In two years, everything will be "minimal". Guaranteed.

I've pretty much been over minimal for a year already, it has its place & some good tracks but like everything that becomes remotely popular, there's way too much shit out there for me to be arsed wading through, especially since I never liked it much.

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Originally posted by zoric I hope it's going to be Prog-psy, but under one condition. So the producers continue to produce quality tracks/albums.

Won't happen mate, believe me.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J old-skool hardcore will be the big sound everyone's imitating.

already happened twice, Ratpack brought the nu-skool break back in 1998, and hardcore itself came back in 2002 but then has died again due to the fact anything sounding like it is linked to chavs, scum & the like. Luna-C is pretty much the hottest non-scum dj out there in the hardcore world now, and that's only because he innovates a lot to keep his sounds fresh. Old skool 'rave' might get more of a lookin again, i honestly don't know, but hardcore itself has already been & gone, it needs to die again before it can reinvent.

D&B has been good the last 2 years, but it depends how long it continues to be fun on how easily they can make money from it.

Psytrance is my latest love (in many forms) and it is having a bit of a renaissance simply because the melodic side that made goa so good is slowly creeping back into some artists, it'd gone arse up about stupid breakdowns, weird sounds & shit, but some artists are looking backwards & realising that a good melody is what true goa is about.

dubstep

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(regarding "emo hair" It came from the electroclash scene, which was emulating 80s "hairspray" styles.

Yeah this summer I found myself in a 'trendy' club in mexico city where i was surrounded by hundreds of electroclash heads. at first I thought i had mistakenly entered an emo club until i felt the rumble when i got out of the elevator

*shudders*

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Originally posted by Ry Diggs the next big genre will be deep house [/discussion]

I agree, there is a pretty big scene coming from Russia. I can't wait! As for minimal, I think it will die just as fast as it began.

"Electro" is on the way out already. It's been a pretty quick turnover so far as trends go, but there's a lot of flux to the scene right now. The term will persist in marketing for a while, but as a popular front it's past its peak. Both emerging from it and taking its place is a broad range of deep, melodic tech-house from Germany, like Booka Shade and �me. I agree with Ishkur that this will be stupidly labeled as "minimal". But I suspect that people will quickly tire of the name game and resort to calling it all house after not too long.

Electro House!!!

YA SRSLY!!!

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