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wasabi?

bahahah good way to stir the pot. how did I miss such gold in this thread? I shall be reading it now.

wow.

why would you post such an outrageous claim if you question how reliable your source is?

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Originally posted by Floorwhore wow. why would you post such an outrageous claim if you question how reliable your source is?

Seriously. A statement like this could potentially do some serious damage to a club.

message boards - the new way to spread your hidden agendas

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Originally posted by Jayx1 message boards - the new way to spread your hidden agendas

It's an unsubstantiated claim...ie, a rumor...have you never seen one of those on a message board, n00b?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 message boards - the new way to spread your hidden agendas

who would know better about using message boards to spread agendas, mr political

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Originally posted by daves who would know better about using message boards to spread agendas, mr political

In Jay's defense, i dont recall his agendas being 'hidden' in anyway -he is usually pretty in your face about what he wants to get across. I think he was implying that the original statement was made by someone who would want to see the clubs demise.

His political threads and his opinions are sometimes a little over the top to get his point across, but i dont see how that is in any relation to this bogus claim of someone dying - and the club trying to cover it up?

Also (now I don't know much about this stuff), wouldn't the club have been shut down for investigations if someone died?

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Originally posted by DanR Also (now I don't know much about this stuff), wouldn't the club have been shut down for investigations if someone died?

There most definitely would have been an investagation. Something like this is not easy to hide.

to mention something on a different note... my sis who was up from detroit totally loved the place! she loved the tunes, loved the space itself, the setup and everything... danced it up nicely!

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Originally posted by TJB There most definitely would have been an investagation. Something like this is not easy to hide.

Exactly.

Unless they disposed of the body in Lake Ontario or something

pm sent. initial post deleted. abcdefg.

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Originally posted by Cribby initial post deleted.

good call cribbs.

indeed...smart edit...that's a lawsuit waiting to happen

it would be nice if DanR edited Cribby's quote out of his reply too.

How could that be a lawsuit waiting to happen? It seemed to be a pretty innocent post where he acknowledged that there may not even be any truth to what he was posting.

If I owned/managed the club, and found someone making that kind of unsubstantiated claim, regardless of whether or not they qualified it with a "maybe", I'd immediately contact that individual and threaten legal action unless they remove the remark.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect legal recourse in a case where someone claims to have info that someone died in your establishment and implies that there's a cover up. Even saying "I heard that...but not sure if it's true" could possibly be construed as slander/libel/whatever, I would think?

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Originally posted by MarkT indeed...smart edit...that's a lawsuit waiting to happen it would be nice if DanR edited Cribby's quote out of his reply too.

Done

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Originally posted by MarkT If I owned/managed the club, and found someone making that kind of unsubstantiated claim, regardless of whether or not they qualified it with a "maybe", I'd immediately contact that individual and threaten legal action unless they remove the remark. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect legal recourse in a case where someone claims to have info that someone died in your establishment and implies that there's a cover up. Even saying "I heard that...but not sure if it's true" could possibly be construed as slander/libel/whatever, I would think?

If a club, or any other business, loses revenues due to an individual's words or actions they may seek legal action. So unless they can sufficiently prove that the cause of the damage was due to that individual stepping out of line, then they have no case. And I would think something like this would be extremely difficult to link back to one statement, considering the number of factors involved in running a club.

If my legal interpretation is wrong, someone in law or familiar with law (Jayx1 ), please correct me.

I see your point...but while it may be hard to prove tangible $$$ damages, particularly in a reputation case, that doesn't mean the club has no legal recourse...whether via civil court or by having him criminally charged.

(hey, it's a stretch to think someone would be sued/charged from a TA post...but...it could happen)

Think about it...if a newspaper published an article stating that a club covered up an overdose death...and it was not true...they would be sued and/or charged. Can the club *prove* tangible damages that were directly caused by the article? unlikely. It doesn't follow that the newspaper could print what it pleases though. Damage to reputation may not be easily quantified, but it's still a legit claim.

I'd say it's reasonably close to being the same thing for an individual posting online (though the net still remains a bit of a grey area in comparion to print media).

"TWO DOLLARS YOU SAY, HMMMMMMMMM?"

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Originally posted by MarkT I'd say it's reasonably close to being the same thing for an individual posting online (though the net still remains a bit of a grey area in comparion to print media).

How is it even remotely close? A newspaper, such as the Toronto Star or Metro have a waaaaaay bigger audience than TA does, let alone TOTA. A newspaper publishing an article about a cover-up would need some sort of substantial proof. They wouldn't just pull "facts" out of their ass to support their claims; and if they did, then they'd set themselves up for a perfect lawsuit. Meanwhile, a person that posts something that they only heard about from some guy, who probably heard it from some other guy; isn't exactly convincing evidence in any way.

i dont have any hidden agendas. Especially no personal ones which i care to promote on TA! (except perhaps my radio show but thats not so hidden either LOL)

Id say im quite explicit in what i have to say about the topics i discuss.

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Originally posted by The Highroller - NO FILLING UP WATER BOTTLES - This was just completely unacceptable. To me, it doesn't get any more shady than this when it comes to running an afterhours club. It was so fucking hot in there, and people were loosing sweat at a rate of 2 bottles of water per hour. Not only is this illegal, but it's also amoral. This is clearly a cash grab technique. With tickets at $40, and selling booze (which raised my eyebrow a bit in the first place), they shouldn't have gouged their customers again with this shadyness. I don't care if it's an "Industry thing" or not. This should not be allowed to happen.

How ironic to hear this coming from you
you bashed me in the roll call thread when i was outraged at the obvious profit scam the club was making with this event
40bucks cover+ selling alcohol+5dollar water bottles and now i found out about the no water refilling rule

it cant get any better

why is it a scam to charge $40 and have alcohol?

Why do people think that club owners should be in the "fun charity" business?

If thats what they charge its what they charge. If you dont like it, dont go.

Do you go to restaurants and complain that they are charging $2 for a can of pop they paid 50 cents for at the supermarket? Do u complain because the same $20 meal could be made at home for $4?

No.... of course not!

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