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Posted by sandstorm03 on Aug-25-2006 22:25:

armin has no element of suprise. There isn't a single track that he plays that has a 'wow factor'.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-25-2006 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
armin has no element of suprise. There isn't a single track that he plays that has a 'wow factor'.

Tell that to my girlfriend who said "Wow this track is awesome!" on July 8th!

Thanks to Sean Tyas - Lift.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Aug-25-2006 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Tell that to my girlfriend who said "Wow this track is awesome!" on July 8th!

Thanks to Sean Tyas - Lift.


i don't belive it was much of a suprise, or anything out of the ordinary... was it?

from what i remember of it its like most of his tracks/the discover tracks(o'call etc), and isnt much different from the rest of the stuff armin plays.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-25-2006 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
i don't belive it was much of a suprise, or anything out of the ordinary... was it?

from what i remember of it its like most of his tracks/the discover tracks(o'call etc), and isnt much different from the rest of the stuff armin plays.

That was the first time I had ever heard Lift as well, and it "wow'ed" me. It's tough sometimes to not be ignorant to the fact that even people who love trance just as much as you aren't looking for the latest and greatest every chance that they get and sometimes don't notice those killer tracks until they finally go to the club to see a dj spin. Everyone on TA is a minority to the majority of people who listen to EDM.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-25-2006 23:03:

heh, i really don't get the wow factor behind 'lift' at all, and i've heard it at least 4 or 5 times out in a club. there's nothing particularly wrong with it but i just doesn't think it stands out at all.. 'exactly' is a much stronger tune in a similar vein/same label


Posted by sandstorm03 on Aug-25-2006 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
That was the first time I had ever heard Lift as well, and it "wow'ed" me. It's tough sometimes to not be ignorant to the fact that even people who love trance just as much as you aren't looking for the latest and greatest every chance that they get and sometimes don't notice those killer tracks until they finally go to the club to see a dj spin. Everyone on TA is a minority to the majority of people who listen to EDM.


exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.

A lot of the wow factor comes from the arrangement and set up of tracks. but you listen to digweed so you probably notice this. Armin just doesn't do it that well imo.


Posted by PETRAN on Aug-26-2006 01:13:

quote:
exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.


I also think that the policy of the ASOT label is strictly about quantity over quality. This is actually what happened to italo-disco when it morphed into "nu-NRG" in mid-80s. The overall quality level of the genre is usually lost into a sea of uninspired,repeatitive,non-creative releases. This in turn affects new producers (especially young producers) who copy what they hear(especially when the majority of what they hear has a considearble low level). When i listened to "Nexus Asia" by vincent de moor (ASOT's 1st release), i thought that great things gonna come form the epic trance side of things and the new fresh "ASOT-Label". Unfortunately,in the end of the day, what i thought of as trance's "messiah" and "great unificator"(and yes, maybe it was in the beginning and up to a certain point) had proven(always IMO ) to be it's "evil tyrrant".


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-26-2006 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.

A lot of the wow factor comes from the arrangement and set up of tracks. but you listen to digweed so you probably notice this. Armin just doesn't do it that well imo.

I'm not going to compare Armin to Digweed in a sense of "arrangement and set up of tracks" because there simply is no comparison.


Posted by harriz on Aug-26-2006 02:01:

Another day at tranceaddict


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-26-2006 03:46:

Instead of criticizing armin, why don't you spend a year learning production and music theory and write something that you would deem suitable?

Maybe the rest of us would appreciate it--both having new, fresh music from you, and not hearing bitching and moaning, from you.


Posted by UWM on Aug-26-2006 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Instead of criticizing armin, why don't you spend a year learning production and music theory and write something that you would deem suitable?

Maybe the rest of us would appreciate it--both having new, fresh music from you, and not hearing bitching and moaning, from you.


And

Here

We

Go

Again


Posted by Danny Ocean on Aug-26-2006 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Instead of criticizing armin, why don't you spend a year learning production and music theory and write something that you would deem suitable?

Maybe the rest of us would appreciate it--both having new, fresh music from you, and not hearing bitching and moaning, from you.


maybe i will bitch.

ps, armin's productions suck cock and so do you bitch.


Posted by JohnBeaver on Aug-26-2006 04:38:

AGREED!!!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-26-2006 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Another day at tranceaddict

Did you actually have something to add or did you just want to act like a clown?


Posted by Project 7 on Aug-26-2006 09:20:

oh shut up, stop listening to the same artists if you want different trance . bellends


Posted by Push2005 on Aug-26-2006 09:38:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
Notice in my original statement, towards the end, it said 'unlike other 'top' djs'. I wasn't comparing him to tons and tons of other producers, just the top guys that built their name from essentially exploiting others.


But maybe Armin SHOULD use an engineer, since he produces nothing but crap anymore. He may be 100% behind his productions, but if it sucks, it sucks!

Armin can hardly be called a decent producer (at least since 2001)


Posted by theck1 on Aug-26-2006 12:39:

Sneaker Pimp

If you guys don't like his songs, don't listen to them? It's not difficult to just switch song.

Personaly, Armin is one of the best trance artists through all times, in my oppinion. He has really moved the trance genre and influenced alot of people. His music is genius.So stop bitching and listen to something else if you don't like it!


Posted by TrancEver on Aug-26-2006 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by theck1
If you guys don't like his songs, don't listen to them? It's not difficult to just switch song.

Personaly, Armin is one of the best trance artists through all times, in my oppinion. He has really moved the trance genre and influenced alot of people. His music is genius.So stop bitching and listen to something else if you don't like it!


You're the dude


Posted by Salegon on Aug-26-2006 16:26:

I bet he's a better DJ than everyone else in this thread


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-26-2006 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon
I bet he's a better DJ than everyone else in this thread

Has anyone claimed otherwise?


Posted by Salegon on Aug-26-2006 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Has anyone claimed otherwise?


NO. I just felt like I want to point that out


Posted by Purple on Aug-26-2006 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
No one is denying that he's done a lot for trance as a whole. They're just saying he's not doing anything good for it NOW.


That dosent mean you will disown him like this...

He has done best he could.. Armin demands respect and he deserves respect!


Posted by UWM on Aug-26-2006 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon
I bet he's a better DJ than everyone else in this thread


I bet he's not.


Posted by Salegon on Aug-26-2006 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I bet he's not.


Who's better then?


Posted by Purple on Aug-26-2006 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I bet he's not.

Right now, I bet he is!


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