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Posted by verndogs on Sep-07-2006 04:58:

comparing federer and sampras is like comparing babe ruth and hank aaron...two great players reaching their peaks in different eras...no matter how much you can debate it, you'll never come up to a conclusion


so the idiotic idea of forgetting Pete Sampras will NEVER happen, especially when Federer will get constant comparisons to him during the rest of his career as he scoops up major after major


Posted by raveed on Sep-07-2006 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
comparing federer and sampras is like comparing babe ruth and hank aaron...two great players reaching their peaks in different eras...no matter how much you can debate it, you'll never come up to a conclusion


so the idiotic idea of forgetting Pete Sampras will NEVER happen, especially when Federer will get constant comparisons to him during the rest of his career as he scoops up major after major


True but if federer ends up winning the french open , game over for sampras' claim as the greatest player ever since federer will probably end up winning more majors than pete.

The one thing i do like about federer is that hes a player with an image that doesnt allow him to be marketed shamelessly as compared to say nadal or roddick. Sampras was always a much better player than agassi was but agassi's image catapulted him to a fan base that i think was bigger than sampras and thats not the way a player should earn respect..

Watching the tv ads prior to the open only hyping up the open as being agassi's last pissed the shit out of me and made me think about how the media today has ruined the term sport itself.

Agassi is a legend no doubt but this is a fucking grand slam with 127 other players and no single individual should take precedence over the tennis no matter how good he is ... if agassi is so famous you could have held a special retirement ceremony for him and covered that shit.

Fuck have the general public really become so stupid today that they let themselves be taken in by all this nonsense ...


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-07-2006 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
comparing federer and sampras is like comparing babe ruth and hank aaron...two great players reaching their peaks in different eras...no matter how much you can debate it, you'll never come up to a conclusion


so the idiotic idea of forgetting Pete Sampras will NEVER happen, especially when Federer will get constant comparisons to him during the rest of his career as he scoops up major after major


agreed...they are very similar though and if federer wins the french he will do something sampras never did.

back on topic: henin-hardenne is playing well and i see her easily making it into the finals against a tired mauresmo/sharapova. as for the men, haas-davydenko should be interesting and despite my love for james blake i want federer to win in 4.


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-07-2006 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
True but if federer ends up winning the french open , game over for sampras' claim as the greatest player ever since federer will probably end up winning more majors than pete.


you are right but shouldn't his competition be taken into consideration along with scheduling and longevity amoung other things?

quote:
The one thing i do like about federer is that hes a player with an image that doesnt allow him to be marketed shamelessly as compared to say nadal or roddick. Sampras was always a much better player than agassi was but agassi's image catapulted him to a fan base that i think was bigger than sampras and thats not the way a player should earn respect..


it should come at no surpise that the general public is somewhat stupid and gravitates to the new "pretty" or "wild" thing. how else can we explain the whole anna kournikova thing? essentially she was worthless as a singles player.

quote:
Watching the tv ads prior to the open only hyping up the open as being agassi's last pissed the shit out of me and made me think about how the media today has ruined the term sport itself.


events are mostly done to generate revenue so although the media can be annoying the usta is loving every bit of it. this media hopla has put butts in seats, driven people to go to usopen.org and sponsors are happy

quote:
Agassi is a legend no doubt but this is a fucking grand slam with 127 other players and no single individual should take precedence over the tennis no matter how good he is ... if agassi is so famous you could have held a special retirement ceremony for him and covered that shit.


scheduled for next year...

quote:
Fuck have the general public really become so stupid today that they let themselves be taken in by all this nonsense ...


yes and they love it


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-07-2006 06:13:

wow I started alot

i was just showing some of my tri national pride

i still like Agassi over Sampras

just because

Mullet > Jew Fro


Posted by raveed on Sep-07-2006 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra
you are right but shouldn't his competition be taken into consideration along with scheduling and longevity amoung other things?


I think thats something that will always be against roger but im judging him by his style of play and even though i am a nadal fan, i cant help but admit he is pretty damn good and would be up there even if he was in the game 10 years ago .. but i agree that the fun of watching tennis today is no where close to yesteryear when we had the sampras, agassi, courier, edberg, chang, martin, rafter, ivanisevic etc .. i never liked agassi but watching him retire and effectively ending that generation made me really really upset

the media has effectively taken away a players class as an athlete and players making the most money are the ones who appear the most in magazines and on television and not necessarily the ones with the most championships.. my dad used to own my citys most famous sporting goods store and had to switch over to the apparel business due to very poor sales in 2000 and he told me that its because people today are more interested in buying what a player wears rather than what he plays with

a bit of topic since its a tennis thread but even in football, we have good players today no doubt but you compare them to the players of the 90s and you cant help but notice that football is being portrayed more as a soap opera than a sport a good example being all these players as young as 20 relasing autobiographies with some stupid controversy in it that are being used to help push sales ..


quote:
it should come at no surpise that the general public is somewhat stupid and gravitates to the new "pretty" or "wild" thing. how else can we explain the whole anna kournikova thing? essentially she was worthless as a singles player.


she was the first hottie to put on a short skirt on a tennis court and men are horny .. thats acceptable


Posted by verndogs on Sep-07-2006 10:49:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
True but if federer ends up winning the french open , game over for sampras' claim as the greatest player ever since federer will probably end up winning more majors than pete.



Not at all

Federer already did what Sampras has never done: reach the French Open final


we're still comparing him to Pete


He'll win the French Open, but he'll still get comparisons to Pete as he makes a run to break Pete's record


Will Federer end his career with another Grand Slam title?

Comparisons to Pete right there until the end


Posted by trunks1022 on Sep-07-2006 13:21:

who cares? yesterday i worked the whole federer match, part of the nadal match, and then all of the hewitt beatdown at the hands of roddick.


Posted by verndogs on Sep-07-2006 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
who cares? yesterday i worked the whole federer match, part of the nadal match, and then all of the hewitt beatdown at the hands of roddick.


we SD whores do


Posted by The_G0dfather on Sep-07-2006 15:51:

Henin ftw and to be in every grand slam final this year


Posted by zoric on Sep-07-2006 15:57:

Jelena to win this shit, I hope she takes it all!



But she's done a good job so far just coming to the Semifinals..


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-07-2006 16:31:

the only way for jelena to win is to pick on justine's backhand which is her "weaker" side, but her "weak" backhand is better than most. also, h-h moves well on the court and does a great job of disguising her shoots.


Posted by The_G0dfather on Sep-07-2006 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra
the only way for jelena to win is to pick on justine's backhand which is her "weaker" side, but her "weak" backhand is better than most.


one of the best one-handed backhands ever, indeed, not weak at all


Posted by verndogs on Sep-07-2006 23:44:

trunks is working the federer-blake match


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-08-2006 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by The_G0dfather
one of the best one-handed backhands ever, indeed, not weak at all


i would have to agree on that, but her forehand is apparently more reliable which makes her back-hand "weak" imo it's a thing of beauty.

also, great victory by federer today...trunks was pretty luck to work that match. maybe next year i'll try to be a ballgirl or something


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-08-2006 03:46:

Henin v Butters bitch

Federer v Roddick

finals

Fed & Butters biotch win it

Federer needs to work on finishing those break points 8/18 tonight


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-08-2006 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
Henin v Butters bitch

Federer v Roddick

finals

Fed & Butters biotch win it

Federer needs to work on finishing those break points 8/18 tonight


butters bitch...hum random


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-08-2006 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra
butters bitch...hum random


not really your just new


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-08-2006 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
not really your just new


must be...the only butters i can think of right off the top of my head is from the simpsons.

AND BY THE SIMPSONS WHAT I REALLY MEAN IS SOUTH PARK...I'm being a dumbass


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-08-2006 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra
must be...the only butters i can think of right off the top of my head is from the simpsons.


you mean South Park...right?


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Sep-08-2006 04:34:

so far in this tourney

trunks > tennis


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Sep-08-2006 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra

maybe next year i'll try to be a ballgirl or something

awesome


http://usopen.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=116


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-08-2006 04:46:

wasnt trying to be an ass chi6me8ra I just was wondering if I missed a character

and ball girl your a chick?


Posted by chimera66 on Sep-08-2006 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
wasnt trying to be an ass chi6me8ra I just was wondering if I missed a character

and ball girl your a chick?


glad you corrected me, that's what i meant...and yes i am female


Posted by InterMilan31 on Sep-08-2006 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by chi6me8ra
glad you corrected me, that's what i meant...and yes i am female


wow our first female SD Whore? well too soon to tell but if you love other sports as much as you do Tennis we have our first one!


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