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*holds his heads together so it wont explode*
I must admit that my english is too weak to understand all of that. Generally i speak quite well but if it gets specific (may it be physcis, maths, economy, law)i have some problems. Nevertheless ill try and add a lill bit to this really really interesting thread. By the way i assume that the majority of us doesnt like physcis at all (annoying simple shit like optics,electricity etc.) but when it comes to abstract fields like time/big bang/light, where its not just about some formulas but really gets in to philosophy, every1s fascinated and likes to dicuss it. (at least its the case with me..)
From what i remember from philosophy, one guy (Augustinus...Roman bishop and philosoph) once said that time is our subjective relation to our...surroundings? .. psychological relation to reality(thats it 
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That "subjective" time consists of three parts: Past, Present, Future.
Past = Our memories, Present = What we see hear, experience right now, Future = Our hopes, fears and expectations
Strictly seen The scond WW doesnt exist in my system, since i cant remember it. Still theres some kind of collective time awareness, aka History. hm.. Oh he too says that Infinity is the negation of time. I forgot why, though 
Renegade said that there is no big cosmic watch. Alright, time is relative, but eventually has just one thingto take care of: Light is not allowed to be speeded up/slowed down. Velocity of light MUST be constant. If i stand and throw a ping pong ball at a window, it wont break. However, if ill sit on a super fast rocket, approaching the window and then throw it,it'll break the shit out of it 
The velocity of the rocket was added to the ball's one. Kinetic energy got higher etc.
BUT! If ill ride my bike with my lights one, i can drive as fast as possible , it'll never change the speed of light. The clocks in space adjust themselves so that this speed remains constant. Okay, so hence travelling on a fucking fast space ship will let timepass extremly slow (in that system only). I think that it also explains why gravity influences time. Since gravity influences space, its curving light, which would theoretically speed it up, but now times comes and says NO,by just passing slower. I forgot, however, why your mass is growing the faster ure trvallin..
Anyway, Light controlls it all, some kind of god IMO.
Back to the non-physical, but more pilosopical view on time. Time can be also seen as a system that rgulates successions of events, or that describes "change" generally. Now you would ask, what ifi put a single atom into an empty white (or yellow) room. and it doesnt move, explode, whatever. Did time pass?
Yess, according to the quantum theory, everything moves. U'll never be able to predict where an electron is right now exactely. U'll either know it place(em..makes sense right)or its speed. something like that. Thats why u know only probabilities of where its to be found right now. Like..when u see a kissing couple for far behind, u wont knowexactely where they sit and if ull get nearer theyll stand up and vanish..being scared. (unless they enjoy being watched, well electrones are prude then).
@Astroboy. about time travelling, i never thought about it but ure right. Ill go even further. U cant do ANYTHING in the past, cause if u changed something, its changed, which means that u cant change it anymore
*thinks*Okay: If u kill Hitler, then back at the point u travell in order to kill him, u wont be able to, since uve already done it, but then again, not since u couldnt, since u already did and so on... Thats why ull never kill Hitler. Hmm..
About Black Holes: They suck 
..but..at what speed and Until when?
If there'd be only one black hole, which however sucks everything in an infitine speed and without an end..there'd be no Universe...Or are we already in a black hole? Whats outside of what we call "universe"?
Is our universe, compared to others just a little point? Maybe a ball, some huge aliens play soccer with?..hm
think about it
time is a dimension, the 4th dimension. you have length 1st, then width, to create 2d, then 3d is depth. time is a fourth deminsion because it can be measured in length.
my theory is that, with the big bang, we were not only catapulted outwards in 3 dimensions that are "visible" wer were also sent catapulted along the dimension of time at an equal speed, similar to being launched into orbit or whatever. hey, we may not even be travelling along the time dimension fast at all, but to us it relative, as time as we know it. in this respect time being a dimention, it cant be bent around, just like a piece of string (1D)can be, a shape folded over (2D), or a box crushed or morphed in shape (3D). in respect to this time can be travlled, although im not going into it it basically involves two black holes combining until they reach a critical mass blah blah blah. if time did exist then we cudnt travel along it, and everythign woudl be still. in fcat without it the other 3 dimensions before it might as well not exist. could go onto the existance of a 5th deminsion and the existance of superstrings but hey its friday night
hope i enlightened ur lives with some of my complex random physical blerb 
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| Originally posted by randummboy hmm.. i dont see why traveling faster than the speed of light is such a big deal.. your not going to dissappeear into thin air or anthing.. because just casue you cant see something, it doenst mean its not there. so lets say you are travelling faster than the speed of light. you will not beable to see anything, but its still going to be there.. does anyone understand what i'm saying? |
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| Originally posted by SmellsExcellent Because HOW can instantly 6million plus offspring ans such and all the details of a life just materialize, and how could 6 billionn people forget a huge part of world history just like that??? -Marc |
Trancegiant
I believe recently physicists have been able to slow down a photon almost to a standstill - I think they did it in a Bose-Einstein condensate. I'll dig around and try to find the article then I'll post more info.
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