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I am just voicing what is on my mind. If you think its harsh and you are taking it personally, thats too bad. Keep enjoying those lame 15 person trance parties since apparently they are fun because of how intimate the setting is.

i dont really think meridian was being hostile.

he was however, making comments without getting to know me or my style, but thats ok. He sounds like an elitist, and that makes hm one of us.

i was more upset about lisa kay's comments.

I'm in it for the bitches!!
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And I wasn't talking about "the night". I was talking about DJ's/promoters who only care about themselves and will step on anyone's toes to get what they want. And they might always claim it's for the love of the music, or for the people that attend, but that might just be some narrow world views at play, where lying to yourself is just as easy as lying to anyone else.

On Another note:

Everyone come down this wednesday, Sean I bet is going to have another wicked set (good call on that Rank 1 track and Strange World last week dude, AWESOME) Jimmy and I should have a nice treat ready for then, and I hope to play a little more progressive then I have been playing for the last few weeks. Hope to see everyone down there. Cheers

-Tristan

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Originally posted by SquiLa I'm in it for the bitches!! ___________________________________________________________________ And I wasn't talking about "the night". I was talking about DJ's/promoters who only care about themselves and will step on anyone's toes to get what they want. And they might always claim it's for the love of the music, or for the people that attend, but that might just be some narrow world views at play, where lying to yourself is just as easy as lying to anyone else.

Keep your negativity back east then squila. We are all aware of the situation in Vancouver. The fact of the matter is if "the scene" is so great there then why would you even care. You do nothing to contribute to it in Vancouver so why take away from it with dead end negative comments?. Keep up the good work Sean and dont let any d-grade "i've been listening to dance music for two years and three months so i know everything DJs" take any wind outta your sails.

I've never been one for negativity - seriously I've been nothing but positive and supportive until about now - but when you become disheartened by certain situations and happenings that it affects what you love - shouldn't you say something?

Yeah I'll keep it out east, don't worry. So when I'm back in Van soon enough I'll be that much better at steering clear of it!
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The scene isn't so much greater out east per se; there are pluses and minuses to every city. But what matters to me, the people, out east seem to just be themselves, down to earth (not way too cool or whatever you wanna call it) but maybe I haven't ran into the assholes yet.

And really why would my comments even matter/mean anything Sean - if you had no idea what I'm talking about? And I'm not referring to directly you either. But honestly who cares, don't worry about it man. I forgive and forget easy. After all, it's Just a girl talking.

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Originally posted by apri_peel see, the way this night works is it's not really there to make money and to attract hordes of people. it wouldn't matter if the night was promoted because the people at places such as fnk and clubvibes probably wouldn't even go to something like this. sean does this because for the love of music. he's never been the type of guy to play the latest mp3s that he has just downloaded off limewire, and frankly i dont think the other two guys are like that either.

but wouldn't it be great if more people were included, therefore telling more of their friends, making more people feel welcome and aware, times that by 2 of their friends, and so on, and then just maybe, a better trance and progressive scene will result slowly but surely. but this is just crazy talk isnt it!

when a night is limited to exclusivity in small numbers, i.e. who can and does spin there I say there is limited potential for growth -to the night or the scene it falls under.

We do the best we can with all things considered....

For the exception of the snow fall about two weeks ago, there has been a pretty good attendance, I definately have been seeing more and more interest almost on a weekly basis, and hats off to Sean for doing a bang up job for promoting on the radio show as well. But ya, as previously stated, it is very hard to attract people to something like this during a week night (I've also seen a lot of established clubs in Vancouver on the same night which barely get anyone coming out, even on a top 40 night which is supposidly a no brainer for a promoter to get people in mass groups to come down...Does that mean the hip hop scene in Vancouver blows? No, because the main nights, when it matters, Friday and Saturdays, they pretty much have the place packed like a can of tuna).

If you wanted to look at a fair comparison, Saturday would be an ideal night to put it to the test...last month and a half, the club has been busier than a brick layer in Bay Ruit.

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Originally posted by meridian82 I am just voicing what is on my mind. If you think its harsh and you are taking it personally, thats too bad. Keep enjoying those lame 15 person trance parties since apparently they are fun because of how intimate the setting is.

i never said the night is fun because of how intimate the setting is
if you had known how the night started, perhaps you would not need to resort to sarcasm


this is not directed at anyone in particular, but i've been seeing a lot of critisism on the boards that has no reasoning. people are simply saying 'this sucks, that blows' without saying why they think that or even trying to be part of the solution and maybe suggest something constructive and doable.

but! we should get out of sean's thread and take this discussion elsewhere. sorry, sean, carry on

^ Thanks for that much needed post.


Hopefully I'll have a new mix cd done by, eh, not this week, but hopefully by Wed, Jan 31st.... come see me for a copy if you're interested....

and Sean, bring some of your recent mixes too, would totally love to hear them!

my suggestion which is do-able: let other dj's in vancouver have some involvement in the night. it can only help not hinder. the more involvement the better. so who really cares now? take it outside the box (of Vancouver city limits). things really are different out there - i know this first hand - change and variety are good things as are open minds.

and fine i'll get outta this thread. thats my 2 toonies though. cheers.

What I've always found strange is the lack of involvement of local trance DJs in Vancouver in the scene. Don't see them supporting shows and rarely see them out unless it's a show they are playing at.

Hey guys.

lisa made a good point.

We were thinking of involving other locals soon. But we want to pick the right people.

Jussed has a point as well.

I havent been out to many shows recently (there were 5 in a row at the end of december but none but my night since then). But i have been out to alot in my lifetime.

Tiesto (5) (Holland)
Armin van Buuren (5) (Holland)
Rank 1 (2) (Holland)
Lock 'n Load (Holland)
Ferry Corsten (2) (Holland)
Kid Vicious (Holland)
Marco V (3) (Holland)
Johan Gielen (3) (Holland)
Menno De Jong (Holland)
Signum (2) (Holland)
Ton TB (2) (Holland)
Marcel Woods (Holland)
Misja Helsloot (Holland)
Benjamin Bates (Holland)
4 Strings (Holland)
Sander Van Doorn (Holland)
Dj Remy (Holland)

Mauro Picotto (2) (Italy)
Marco Carolla (Italy)
Nu-NRG (Italy)

Mark Farina (US)
DJ Dan (2) (San Francisco)
Max Graham (2)(Montreal)
AK1200 (US)
Gabriel & Dresden (San Francisco)
Mark Farina (US)
Sharaz (US)
Keoki (New York)
Treavor (US)
John Selway (New York)
BT (Los Angeles)
29 Palms (Los Angeles)
George Acosta (Miami)
Noah Pred (Montreal)
DJ Swamp (USA)

ATB (Germany)
Future Breeze (Germany)
Paul Van Dyke (Germany)
Timo Maas (2) (Germany)
Dumonde (3) (Germany)
CJ Stone (3) (Germany)
Hennes & Cold (Germany)
Talla 2XLC (2) (Germany)
Tomcraft (Germany)
Blank & Jones (Germany)
Kai Tracid (Germany)
Scot Project (2) (Germany)
Ronski Speed (2) (Germany)
Oliver Klitizing (Germany)
DJ Dean (Germany)
Cosmic Gate (Germany)

Matt Darey (UK)
Guy Ornadel (UK)
Seb Fontaine (UK)
Tall Paul (UK)
Anne Savage (4) (UK)
Pete Tong (UK)
Paul Oakenfold (UK)
Thrillseekers (3) (UK)
Lange (UK)
Danny Howells (UK)
Carl Cox (UK)
Above and Beyond (3) (UK)
Vinylgroover (UK)
The Orb (UK)
Guyver (2) (UK)
John '00' Fleming (2) (UK)
Chris Liberator (UK)
Darren Tate (UK)
BK (2) (UK)
Garth Emery (UK)
James Holden (UK)
Hybrid (UK)
Jay Pidgeon (UK)
Andy Moor (2) (UK)
Judge Jules (UK)
Amber D (UK)
John Askew (UK)
Moby (Live) (UK)

Svenson (2) (Belgium)

Darude (3) (Finland)

Ken Ishi (Japan)
Kiyoshi Shimisu (Japan)
Yoji Biomehanika (Japan)

Brian Cross (Spain)

I dont drink, and i get tired easy now, my friday nights are always booked, and ive become pretty picky.
I dont like prog. I wont see chabel or porter or howells or burridge. For that reason my attendance at vivid events has been limited.

My next party appearance will be at Kiss, I think 4 strings puts on a great show, and i love live acts.

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Originally posted by Digital Over On Another note: Everyone come down this wednesday, Sean I bet is going to have another wicked set (good call on that Rank 1 track and Strange World last week dude, AWESOME) Jimmy and I should have a nice treat ready for then, and I hope to play a little more progressive then I have been playing for the last few weeks. Hope to see everyone down there. Cheers -Tristan

haha, if you play cd dex maybe ill pass u some cdrs for you to rip apart and kick me in the nuts for.

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Originally posted by Digital Over it is very hard to attract people to something like this during a week night (I've also seen a lot of established clubs in Vancouver on the same night which barely get anyone coming out, even on a top 40 night which is supposidly a no brainer for a promoter to get people in mass groups to come down...Does that mean the hip hop scene in Vancouver blows? No, because the main nights, when it matters, Friday and Saturdays, they pretty much have the place packed like a can of tuna).

didn't i basically say this at the top of page 7?

Sean, not saying you specifically but how often do you see other trance DJs at some smaller events?

julian has a good point, unles a dj is playing at a party or is buddy buddy with the promoters, he won't usually show up for another promoter's event. things have been like this for as long as i can remember tho so it's nothing that really surprises me.

it is a proven fact that things in vancouver are not at all as they are in other cities in canada, as was earlier pointed out by lisa.

but, since we're stuck with a mediocre scene, we probably shouldn't bitch too much but take action and attend cyber on wednesday nights when possible. i have noticed sean's track selection take a slightly different direction from what he played 1-2 years ago, i am in fact curious to see sean behind the decks now playing perry o'neil and such

I have been playing a few newer tracks.

I really like some of the tracks danny used to play... not all of them but a few really kick ass.

as for julian, he is right. not alot of support. I try my best, but cant always make it out as often as i want. others are even less.

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Originally posted by jussed What I've always found strange is the lack of involvement of local trance DJs in Vancouver in the scene. Don't see them supporting shows and rarely see them out unless it's a show they are playing at.

I always found that strange too. I wondered where particular faces were at really good shows in the past if they love trance that much. There's probably a lot of reasons. But...

In Vancouver it seems to matter more who your friends are (if the promoter / dj's are your friends) than anything else. Sadly.
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Thanks Sean, I'll throw some respect your way for that.

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Oh yeah sorry, a couple more suggestions (I know I said I'd get out! haha):

For me I don't wanna go to so sleep late (like nothing past Midnight) and be tired at work on Thursday as with probably a lot of people. It'd be cool if it started early (8pm) and end early (12:30pm). I know it's a club and that might not work but... Kind of like Tribeca used to be. It used to pack up around 8 to 11. I mean it is a Wednesday night. Then promote is more as a listening room, or lounge, than a club night er something. That'd be cool but I think it's unheard of.

My next question is, does the owner/manager of the night at the club care that much? A whole nother issue/.

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Originally posted by DjCommisad didn't i basically say this at the top of page 7?

Yes you did Essentially just adding on to your point slightly.

As for those CDRs, sounds good...Jimmy and I are a little ways off from finishing that new tune which I mentioned a few posts back, but we are getting close, we're back in the studio tonight so hopefully we'll have a finished version for hammering out hopefully by the end of the month

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Originally posted by AquaYak We were thinking of involving other locals soon. But we want to pick the right people.

I vote for Vlado, and perhaps Angelo?..

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Originally posted by Digital Over I vote for Vlado, and perhaps Angelo?..

vlado would level the poor empty club.

angelo doesn't dj. doubt the crowd wants to hear him mc all night while playing singles off a cd. you never know tho

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Originally posted by Digital Over I vote for Vlado, and perhaps Angelo?..

(Digital Over totally misses the point) amazing. < sarcasm

Any suggestions for local djs we could invite?

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That bringing people in from Organix idea you mentioned would be awesome....Angelo MC'ing w/ Vlado mixing is what I meant, ya. Intended with light humour...but Vlado would definately be a class choice

I'll think of some other good/talented locals as well which could fit w/ the night.

Sean, really enjoyed the set last night.

Lisa, with respect, either contribute with ideas, or remain silent..seriously, Its hard for anyone to take you seriously when (perfect example of that last post, which was about as useful as a solar powered flashlight) is you have little or nothing beneficial to say, and yet complain and gripe. Nice.

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