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Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
i do take the time to go out and i'm not impressed. yes the city is good, but its not spectacular and it certainly has nothing on cities like LA, NYC, or Miami. the stories i hear about from the dotcom era are crazy but when the bubble burst the law enforcement cracked down on the nightlife, hard, too hard. its less than it was before the dotcoms came to town. its making a comeback to which i give you a ... call me when it isnt "coming" back but when its back

one thing it does do well is create a sense of community, people fall in love with it and will defend the city to their death which usually causes them to overlook or not admit the shortfalls. its that smug pride everyone talks about

all cities are filthy, LA is filthy, NYC is filthy and SF is no exception. its a city, its dirty

oh whatever, that was overrated too. in the past few months there have been festivals and parades practically every other weekend and its been great to have things like that especially with such frequency, but they're all overrated. most of them are nothing but an excuse for commercialism


please give me experiential and personal examples instead of regurgitating what some nitwit told you in the break room. what clubs, bars and lounges have you been to? which djs have you seen? how is la's night life any better than sf's? have you clubbed in nyc before? your post is full of ignorance, you haven't been here long enough to say half the shit you're saying. excuse for commercialism my fucking ass, why don't you move away already?


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:15:

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
Bro, Ive lived in the bay area since I was born (except the last 3 years). You need to get out more. Just because it isn't packed to full capacity doesn't mean you cant have fun. Im not sure what you mean about nightlife but you can definitely have a good time in SF. Its probably one of the most relax places to have a good time.

Again, I do go out and I've been to all the hot spots around the city with frequency. What I'm encountering in this thread are the die hard locals that will defend the city at any cost.

Its good. I'm enjoying my time here.

But. its. not. great.

You'd also be the 3rd true local I've encountered since I came to the city. No one is actually from San Francisco. Everybody is a transplant, its strange.

Anyway, having only spent 3 years away from home, I'd encourage you to get out more. Maybe after spending some time in other cities you'll see what I'm talking about.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Again, I do go out and I've been to all the hot spots around the city with frequency. What I'm encountering in this thread are the die hard locals that will defend the city at any cost.

Its good. I'm enjoying my time here.

But. its. not. great.

You'd also be the 3rd true local I've encountered since I came to the city. No one is actually from San Francisco. Everybody is a transplant, its strange.

Anyway, having only spent 3 years away from home, I'd encourage you to get out more. Maybe after spending some time in other cities you'll see what I'm talking about.


and what are these hot spots? please list them.


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
and what are these hot spots? please list them.


the castro.

that's there josh4 lives.

and that's the part of town that gave the rest of san fran the bad rep for being a gay city


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
please give me experiential and personal examples instead of regurgitating what some nitwit told you in the break room. what clubs, bars and lounges have you been to? which djs have you seen? how is la's night life any better than sf's? have you clubbed in nyc before? your post is full of ignorance, you haven't been here long enough to say half the shit you're saying. excuse for commercialism my fucking ass, why don't you move away already?


As much as I'd love to take your bait to argue into 5 pages that lead no where, I have to say no. My opinion is my own but I don't need to validate it to you. Living in the DC area yes I traveled to NYC often and had friends there. I'm also going to pretend you didn't just suggest San Francisco's night life can hold a candle to LOS ANGELES.

quote:
Originally posted by enferno
the castro.

that's there josh4 lives.

and that's the part of town that gave the rest of san fran the bad rep for being a gay city

Apparently you haven't noticed the rainbow flags that line market st or the pro gay judges and gay city officials SF elects into office. Enferno, it IS a gay city.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:27:

josh4 thinks because he sees a heineken float and a beatport blimp at lovefest, everything is an excuse to commercialize. what this stupid tool is ignorant of is all the city permits and insurance the organizers have to buy in order to throw the event. what he doesn't know is that lovefest is a not-for-profit organization that feeds money back into the community and makes no profit off the parade. what josh4 doesn't know because he just moved here is that lovefest cost the organizers $280,000 last year and only 230 of it was recovered from donations for a loss of $50,000, even after sponsorships. and what josh4 also doesn't know is that none of the performers in the parade were paid any money. all of the djs were given free plane tickets to sf to come spin for free. but of course, josh4 can say with confidence that these festivals and parades are just here to commercialize


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
As much as I'd love to take your bait to argue into 5 pages that lead no where, I have to say no. My opinion is my own but I don't need to validate it to you. Living in the DC area yes I traveled to NYC often and had friends there. I'm also going to pretend you didn't just suggest San Francisco's night life can hold a candle to LOS ANGELES


lol you're such an idiot. unlike you i make trips down to los angeles several times a year to some of their biggest club events so i can actually validate what i say. you on the other hand just make claims based on your lack of experience and believe them to be true.

so maybe you won't answer some simple straightforward questions i asked, like where have you clubbed or who have you seen dj, probably because you can't, but can you at least tell me on what basis you're making your comparisons between sf and la's night life?


Posted by L.E.N. on Oct-10-2006 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Again, I do go out and I've been to all the hot spots around the city with frequency. What I'm encountering in this thread are the die hard locals that will defend the city at any cost.

Its good. I'm enjoying my time here.

But. its. not. great.

You'd also be the 3rd true local I've encountered since I came to the city. No one is actually from San Francisco. Everybody is a transplant, its strange.

Anyway, having only spent 3 years away from home, I'd encourage you to get out more. Maybe after spending some time in other cities you'll see what I'm talking about.


Im not a "diehard". ( I do love the city Im from ) Its the same at most huge citys. Homeless,graffiti,drug addicts etc.Its just the way it is.....

You say "hotspots" like its something you found on the internet....find a group of people you have something in common with.

About "encouraging me getting out to other citys"..Ive been in LA for the last 3 years...its simailar. Almost all are transplants, just more of a fake attitude with the whole "Hollywood" aspect. Ive met plenty of great people so its not all like that, but for the most part, people will act like they care here....where as in SF, Ive met people that DO care.


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
lol you're such an idiot. unlike you i make trips down to los angeles several times a year to some of their biggest club events so i can actually validate what i say. you on the other hand just make claims based on your lack of experience and believe them to be true.

I would really like you to make a thread in the Cali forum compairing SF nightlife to LA nightlife and see where it goes.

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
About "encouraging me getting out to other citys"..Ive been in LA for the last 3 years...its simailar. Almost all are transplants, just more of a fake attitude with the whole "Hollywood" aspect. Ive met plenty of great people so its not all like that, but for the most part, people will act like they care here....where as in SF, Ive met people that DO care.

LA is still California which is not exactly that much different. Though southern and northern cali are like two different states. Not surprisingly, being from SF yourself, you're placing the locals here on a pedestal as if they're better because they "care." Next you'll be talking about the importance of driving hybrid cars.


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:35:

please don't post nude photos.

- lucid


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
I would really like you to make a thread in the Cali forum compairing SF nightlife to LA nightlife and see where it goes.


there's no need. lata's will admit sf's clubbing vibe is leaps and bounds above la's....

here's one recent example:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=374485

and with that, we've come around full circle to conclude once again that you are talking out of your ass.


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
there's no need. lata's will admit sf's clubbing vibe is leaps and bounds above la's....

here's one recent example:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=374485

and with that, we've come around full circle to conclude once again that you are talking out of your ass.

Did you copy the right thread? I don't see how that supports your statement.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
LA is still California which is not exactly that much different. Though southern and northern cali are like two different states. Not surprisingly, being from SF yourself, you're placing the locals here on a pedestal as if they're better because they "care." Next you'll be talking about the importance of driving hybrid cars.


lol you really are full of shit. how can you even begin to question one's judgment on something you admittedly know nothing about. have you clubbed in la? no. the story ends there.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Did you copy the right thread? I don't see how that supports your statement.


since you're having trouble, let me help you:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Julia
THANK GOD!!! A show where we can see Mauro perform OUTSIDE of LA!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Julia
If u go see a DJ outside of SoCal, you'll see what i mean.


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:40:

OMG GUYS STFU.

/THREAD


YOU KNOW AS SOON AS A MOD SEES THIS IT'S GUNNA GET CLOSED. YOU GUYS SUCK MEGA HUGE PEI PEI


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by enferno
OMG GUYS STFU.

/THREAD


YOU KNOW AS SOON AS A MOD SEES THIS IT'S GUNNA GET CLOSED. YOU GUYS SUCK MEGA HUGE PEI PEI


so leave? i don't get how it's so difficult for some people to not click on a damn thread.


Posted by idoru on Oct-10-2006 07:42:

Hooray for arguing over personal opinions!


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
so leave? i don't get how it's so difficult for some people to not click on a damn thread.


it's an addiction. i am addicted to t3h sux.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by enferno
it's an addiction. i am addicted to t3h sux.


you know what else sucks? drinking bleach. try that next


Posted by L.E.N. on Oct-10-2006 07:51:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4



LA is still California which is not exactly that much different. Though southern and northern cali are like two different states. Not surprisingly, being from SF yourself, you're placing the locals here on a pedestal as if they're better because they "care." Next you'll be talking about the importance of driving hybrid cars.


You watch too much TV Hybrid cars?!...please Im no treehugger. Im all about smog exempt cars. Way to typecast me...Just cuz Im from Cali doesent mean Im a granola eatin,treesaving hippy.

No pedestal here...there is a difference...you said it yourself.."its like two different states". You can analyze my posts all you want...but you need to actually "live" in a city longer than a year before really finding out what "living" there is like.

LA is a good time...don't get me wrong. (visiting and living in LA is two totally different things). You can have a blast in a week staying here, but live here for a few years and it gets rather old with all the bullshit. SF still has that busy feeling but still feels relaxed. LA has a busy feeling but there is also that uptight feeling that kinda kills the experience.

An opinion is an opinion...and there is no real way of swaying it. Thats fine...but I disagree.


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:52:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
since you're having trouble, let me help you:

you believe one thread with a couple posts and a few people vaguely implying SF is a good club city proves your point? this is why i only bother to argue with you to a certain extent. What are we arguing about anyway? Nevermind.

quote:
Originally posted by L.E.N.
You watch too much TV Hybrid cars?!...please Im no treehugger. Im all about smog exempt cars. Way to typecast me...Just cuz Im from Cali doesent mean Im a granola eatin,treesaving hippy.

But I had to sneak in a South Park reference!
quote:

No pedestal here...there is a difference...you said it yourself.."its like two different states". You can analyze my posts all you want...but you need to actually "live" in a city longer than a year before really finding out what "living" there is like.

LA is a good time...don't get me wrong. (visiting and living in LA is two totally different things). You can have a blast in a week staying here, but live here for a few years and it gets rather old with all the bullshit. SF still has that busy feeling but still feels relaxed. LA has a busy feeling but there is also that uptight feeling that kinda kills the experience.

An opinion is an opinion...and there is no real way of swaying it. Thats fine...but I disagree.

Absopostulitedily.


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:52:

ew it tastes pithy


Posted by R!CH on Oct-10-2006 07:55:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
you believe one thread with a couple posts and a few people vaguely implying SF is a good club city proves your point? this is why i only bother to argue with you to a certain extent. What are we arguing about anyway? Nevermind.


i offered an example. let's not confuse that with anchoring my entire argument to that one thread. for fuck's sake can't you admit that in this area i clearly know a shitload more than you do and that you're just flat out wrong? you can keep reaching and reaching for off the wall rationalizations for this and that, but in the end you're still just reaching for thin air. you're like a virgin trying to describe sex to a porn star.


Posted by josh4 on Oct-10-2006 07:57:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
i offered an example. let's not confuse that with anchoring my entire argument to that one thread. for fuck's sake can't you admit that in this area i clearly know a shitload more than you do and that you're just flat out wrong? you can keep reaching and reaching for off the wall rationalizations for this and that, but in the end you're still just reaching for thin air.


well i got what i came for


Posted by enferno on Oct-10-2006 07:57:

pun intended, i'm sure


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