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Posted by Dj_Skez on Oct-28-2006 22:46:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
you should be. |
Women, know your limits.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 22:46:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
right, then i'll just expect that you watched 90 minutes of footage in under 10 minutes |
Well you're right, I didn't watch them. But it wasn't because I'm not comfortable.
Say I DID watch the videos, and had a major revelation and totally switched all my existing beliefs. What would you gain from that? I'd just like to understand why it's so important to you.
Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-28-2006 22:47:
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Well you're right, I didn't watch them. But it wasn't because I'm not comfortable.
Say I DID watch the videos, and had a major revelation and totally switched all my existing beliefs. What would you gain from that? I'd just like to understand why it's so important to you. |
it makes his penis hard when you tell him he's right
Posted by wienerschnitzel on Oct-28-2006 22:48:
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my family chastised me a lot when i told them i was an athiest way back when, still made me go to church, and my dad calls me ever week trying to get me to read the bible and be more christly. even out here in saskatchewan i hear some people try and recruit me sometimes. |
i don't think you'll ever be exempt from that, people always think they know what's better for you. The more someone pushes me, the more it turns me off. too bad your family isn't supportive
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 22:49:
lol and people call me defensive 
Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-28-2006 22:49:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
watch the videos people.
educate yourself on the argument from atheism, why god is a delusion, why faith is a virus and why religion is the root of all evil. unless you find the idea of critically examining your beliefs 'offensive'. |
So you put your stock in knowledge in the hands of other people? Sounds a lot like religion.
Zealots of any brand of faith are what is truly corrupt about any set of knowledge and belief; whether it is Christianity or Atheism, it is still dependent on supposed forms of thinking, and both sides would offer their 'proof' - your subscription to whatever side of the argument you fall on is what comprises your beliefs. Unless you fancy yourself a nihilist or something? Seems kind of ridiculous - even scientific 'proof' is just knowledge of what the data gained from the scientific process has indicated thusfar, so those who put their stock in science also put faith into what the process has indicated, and even then, the faith is somewhat blind because it is often supported by theories and supposed "laws" - but when we look far enough, those laws are being contantly broken and defied. I fail to see the major difference between scientific proof and faith in (un)substantiated human rumour in angels and devils and whatnot. By your views, humans created both science and god - did they not? So how can you possibly differentiate one true brand of "reason" over another when the support remains the same throughout? It's all been humans.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 22:51:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
lol and people call me defensive |
Are you going to answer my question?
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 22:51:
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
So you put your stock in knowledge in the hands of other people? Sounds a lot like religion. |
no i'd rather post a link to a well articulated argument from a well regarded scientist than to regurgitate all 90 minutes of the same thing in plain text for everyone to get pussyhurt over.
Posted by idoru on Oct-28-2006 22:51:
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Originally posted by analpie
Are you going to answer my question? |
Yes, he hasn't answered my original post to him. I'd like to know what his response is.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 22:52:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
no i'd rather post a link to a well articulated argument from a well regarded scientist than to regurgitate all 90 minutes of the same thing in plain text for everyone to get pussyhurt over. |
Is that a no then? Weak.
Posted by Subey on Oct-28-2006 22:54:
Lex
Has the following ever occurred to you?
Anything is infinitely less plausible than nothing?
or to rephrase
That the basic construct of a universe emerging from a big bang (or God for that matter) is infinitely less logical than nothing for ever in every direction (realizing of course that direction is being used here as a symbolic reference point to make the concept easier to digest rather than referring to any cardinal points)
Posted by Echo of Silence on Oct-28-2006 22:56:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
lol and people call me defensive |
I'll settle for calling you a contradiction. Does that work?

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Originally posted by lex400sc
no they really aren't. there is only one truth and people of reason are the only ones who seek it out. religion is faith in false hope with a lack of critical thinking required for reasoning and an absence of any disprovable theory which can be applied to form hypotheses... |
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religion is in fact a virus that infects our intelligent faculties and creates dangerously warped moralities...
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Originally posted by lex400sc
i am not an atheist |
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 22:56:
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Originally posted by analpie
Are you going to answer my question? |
what makes you think it's of any importance to me what you believe in? i'm only here to show people the path to humanism because i have a social obligation to at least represent the advent of humanity's many social codes. i couldn't give a fuck less what you or anyone else end up doing with my posts. i've come to terms with the fact that the majority in any population of humans will live and die behind the curtain of ignorance.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 22:57:
I guess it's hard for him to respond, now that we're asking him to give me his OWN thoughts on the matter.
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 22:58:
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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
I'll settle for calling you a contradiction. Does that work?
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why don't you settle for buying a dictionary? there's this thing called agnosticism which is neither theism nor atheism.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 22:59:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
what makes you think it's of any importance to me what you believe in? i'm only here to show people the path to humanism because i have a social obligation to at least represent the advent of humanity's many social codes. i couldn't give a fuck less what you or anyone else end up doing with my posts. i've come to terms with the fact that the majority in any population of humans will live and die behind the curtain of ignorance. |
Yup, it's an ego thing.
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 22:59:
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Originally posted by analpie
I guess it's hard for him to respond, now that we're asking him to give me his OWN thoughts on the matter. |
i guess it's easier for everyone to respond for me before i get a chance to, so i'll let you all have your fun patting each other on the back. piece!
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 23:00:
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Originally posted by analpie
Yup, it's an ego thing. |
you call it ego, i call it altruism, and i call your condition dependancy and denial
Posted by Ian on Oct-28-2006 23:00:
i just don't believe in anything conventional. I can't see why a god would exist, in any form, the one i relate to closest is the many gods that hindus have, simply because the "gods" to me are people who exist, who i can prove exist and who I learn from. Be them a friend, a sportsman or a musician, ifthey move my life forwards they count. I can't handle any sort of actual religion, I don't pray, I don't believe the arguments & teachings of a society made thousands of years ago can be relevant in todays climate, and things we believe in now won't in the future.
Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-28-2006 23:01:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
no i'd rather post a link to a well articulated argument from a well regarded scientist than to regurgitate all 90 minutes of the same thing in plain text for everyone to get pussyhurt over. |
Ah, right, because then you would just be repeating what somebody else said, and then that may lead to the same widespread hysteria support that made religion the humongous institution that it is now.
All just lots of people believing the same thing, claiming one is right and the other is wrong. Both sides are supported by their own brand of 'proof'. Both sides just results of humanity.
Taking a side makes you a believer.
Posted by idoru on Oct-28-2006 23:01:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
you call it ego, i call it altruism, and i call your condition denial |
It's one thing to exhibit the behavior of altruism. It's another thing to go around acting high and mighty because you think that that's who you are.
Posted by Echo of Silence on Oct-28-2006 23:03:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
why don't you settle for buying a dictionary? there's this thing called agnosticism which is neither theism nor atheism. |
Sorry, dude, English isn't my first language and I'm too lazy to Dick dot com you.
Anyway, my understanding is an agnostic is someone who 'doesn't know.'
You aren't posting like someone who doesn't know.
Look at your posts. "There is only one truth." "Religion is in fact a virus that infects our intelligent faculties and creates dangerously warped moralities..."
Sounds rather definitive to me.
Posted by wienerschnitzel on Oct-28-2006 23:03:
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Originally posted by analpie
Are you going to answer my question? |
he never answered mine either, but i'm assuming he is a SFTA from his sig, which is kinda funny because if I'M lucky enough to live in a society that isn't dominated by a christian agenda where it's political SUICIDE to come out and say you aren't a devote christian in a redneck town in alberta, HE is deffinatly blessed to live in san fran where anything goes.
Posted by R!CH on Oct-28-2006 23:04:
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Taking a side makes you a believer. |
lol i am always fascinated by how people like you arrive at your conclusions. i guess the sky is the limit when a part of your rationale accepts miracles that defy all physical laws
Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-28-2006 23:04:
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Originally posted by lex400sc
i call your condition dependancy and denial |
Based on what? I've never actually stated any of my beliefs in this thread. There you go making assumptions again. I would call that ignorance.
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