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This might just be even better than the guy who claimed Infected Mushroom stole his track

HOPEFULLY YOU CANNOT RIP OFF TRACKS FROM LORD OF BASS BECAUSE HE IS A HUMAN BEING ABOVE THE OTHERS, AND THE #1 GREEK PRODUCER, DJ, PAGAN GOD.

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Originally posted by d-miurge HOPEFULLY YOU CANNOT RIP OFF TRACKS FROM LORD OF BASS BECAUSE HE IS A HUMAN BEING ABOVE THE OTHERS, AND THE #1 GREEK PRODUCER, DJ, PAGAN GOD.

i agree with you dude.

you should vote for Lord of Bass at the next DJ Mag poll also, that guy purely deserves more exposure!

If anyone is ripping anyone else off here, then I think it's Leon Bolier ripping off melodies from Final Fantasy 7

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Originally posted by RickyM If anyone is ripping anyone else off here, then I think it's Leon Bolier ripping off melodies from Final Fantasy 7

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Originally posted by 8Wonders both inspired by Armin's Serenity ...

rehashes of a rehash of a rehash of a rehash..

that's pretty low

Mighty Ducks always win

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE Mighty Ducks always win

leon boliestevez

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Originally posted by kadomony leon boliestevez

Boilerowned

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Originally posted by trancedanne they sound verry different imo

wash your ears. although they are not identical one can't say that they are two completely different melodies.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 wash your ears. although they are not identical one can't say that they are two completely different melodies.

One does one's best

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Originally posted by alexpea Ok first now I got the chance to listen to the melodies. Hahaha, first of all --> This is an incredible simple melody to produce so why on hell use a preset-arpeggio?!?!?! That just pisses me off. I've cooporated with many artists who uses presets and once I realise it, I stop the cooporation immediately. It's just too ejay-ish!!! Make your own melodies god dammit Second of all --> These melodies aren't similar. The first one (the original) has more chord-changes and different ones as well. And imo is far much better. I wouldn't mind remixing it actually, cuz the chord-changes are beautiful! Leon's melody isn't quite as complex. And the melody-pattern is similar, but not exact the same. Yes, they sound similar. Mainly because they both has the same synth-sound. Grow up people

haha man that's the whole point about it

we made a banging club track (we think so tho) and added this breakdown (which i called cheesy and fluffy earlier on), we made it very simple, using an arp preset (actually its the first time i used any preset which i didnt even change after all). So it was just: hit some chords, arp it, and add it to the breakdown, and lets see. The mighty ducks track is a club track, its for the dancefloors, and its kinda gimmick like, this arp preset being one of the gimmicks. And it isnt inspired by anything, maybe just by what we would call 'standard trance'.

So its not about that we thought to have found a brilliant melody, cause we dont think it is. Like i said, its a gimmick, and therefor we think it works. Total contrast to the beats and the oldschool stabs.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 wash your ears. although they are not identical one can't say that they are two completely different melodies.

Maybe the problem is that Paul's track is unoriginal. He's basically saying a preset sounds the same as his melody here.

Even though it doesn.

The original " mighty Ducks" track (or whatever is called) is 1000 times better then Boliers "another-extremely-boring-random-trance-by-numbers" track!!!I vote for the original!!!


P.S. There is a new version of Rave e-jay coming out kids(!!!), errmm sorry i mean "trance producers"...

the real question is when will bolier put out more tracks like 'my precious'

that was a choon, and even more so the ozgur can remix

The Original, Ozgur and Mesh remixes all made for a very solid release IMO

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong the real question is when will bolier put out more tracks like 'my precious'

+1

Unfortunately the dice rolled such crazy way. Some pages before I posted my answer to all this and I think there is no sense to repeat it again. It's just an impossible coincidence. From this situation there is one big summary:

STANDARD PRESETS ARE EVIL!

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Originally posted by Passiva The melody is definitely NOT the same. Besides that; the sound used in both productions comes from a preset in Vanguard which contains an arp. It's likely that it's going to sound similar! [EDIT] If you are really sure that Leon and Cliff stole your melody, please take this to court. It's very childish to speak bad about something you haven't proven yet. You have posted this on several forums to achieve what? Sounds like you're more up to damaging Leon as a producer than to get your right.

+1

sorry man....not this time...
no way leon will do that man , NO WAY! and not saying it just cuz we're friends but knowing him as a producer!
and b wise don't try to ruin other ppl names i'm just saying it for ur own good cuz it will bite u in the ass sometime in the future...

anyway i don't think its a rip off like arksun said there are a lot of melos that sounds the same here and there and if ur a genius which made a hit and someone ripped it off just remember u got the talent to do it again

Another song with a similar song and semi-similar melody....check the breakdown of: Senses feat RTM - Contrast

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Originally posted by b i n k u n Another song with a similar song and semi-similar melody....check the breakdown of: Senses feat RTM - Contrast

This topic now works as circle. Already discussed that on t.nu
and it doesn't change a conclusion I wrote in previous msg

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong the real question is when will bolier put out more tracks like 'my precious' that was a choon, and even more so the ozgur can remix The Original, Ozgur and Mesh remixes all made for a very solid release IMO

Check de AA side of Mighty Ducks.... Mohawk

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Originally posted by Astatic Check de AA side of Mighty Ducks.... Mohawk

QFT

I'm in two minds about it.

1. Last year I wrote an ambient track using a unique preset from Absynth 3. A bit after writing and producing it (I didn't send it out to any labels etc) I heard 'Once' by Alex Stealthy who had used the same preset from Absynth 3, obviously with no input from my tune as no one has it but me. So I can quite see how these things happen. But in my case, though the preset was obviously the same, the melodies of my tune and 'once' were totally different.

2. In your case the melody is very similar..... too similar.... and the preset / patch sounds almost the same.

End of the day mate labels don't give a fuck unless they can make money. Leon Boilers name is known, your's isn't. If a rip off can be made I'm sure the label will go for it, bolt a big producers name onto it and watch the cash flow in. I'd look to the label, not the producer. I gave up with sending promos to labels a couple of years ago.

If this is a rip off it takes the piss.

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Originally posted by PETRAN The original " mighty Ducks" track (or whatever is called) is 1000 times better then Boliers "another-extremely-boring-random-trance-by-numbers" track!!!I vote for the original!!! P.S. There is a new version of Rave e-jay coming out kids(!!!), errmm sorry i mean "trance producers"...

mighty ducks is not trance.

about 'my precious', im working on a follow up as we speak.

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Originally posted by Paul.Vinitsky STANDARD PRESETS ARE EVIL!

that already was the point with our breakdown in the mighty ducks. People seem not to get that, and think we did our utter best to create an emotional melody or so, which isnt true.

And Paul, why oh why did you post this on all forums, mail armin van buuren and others about it (yeah those mails got forwarded) instead of contacting us upfront. Do you (and anyone else) really think we need to steal melodies from others and that we arent capable of writing own melodies? especially when it comes to an arpeggio played on a vanguard? Do you really think that IF Menno (@Intuition Office) received this demo (which he didnt, comes clear from your email: you didnt send it to intuition, but you sent it to Fundamental and United recordings, which means Menno didnt even GET your demo)and passed it on to us, we would look into our VSTs and synths to check for something that would sound EXACTLY the same as your sound and came up with this vanguard preset (its called frozen land i think)?

Could be that you were shocked when hearing the ducks sample, but thats not our fault anyway. Maybe the lesson for you should be: if you use a preset, be aware that anyone else can use it too.

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