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I, FOR ONE LOVE MALE VOX WITH CLUB TRACKS!!!

Into female vox but, only if it's like SARAH MCLACHLIN, SUNSCREEM, KRISTY HAWKSHAW, etc. I AM SO SICK OF SCREAMIN' DIVAS!!

HERE's MY TOP 5 MALE (THO, THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE)..............

5. DIRTY VEGAS
"Ghosts" (Lexicon Vocal Mix)

4. BT
"Force Of Gravity"

3. ABOVE AND BEYOND
"Alone Tonight"

2. PVD/WAYNE JACKSON
"The Other Side"

#1. ARMIN VAN BUUREN/RAY WILSON
"Yet Another Day"]

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Oh do fuck off. New Order have been remixed to utter death- they brought out an excellent LP of their remixes from the early 90s. I notice that Bernard Summer's vocals work just as well when they've been remixed as in their original form. And if you're going to deny Blue Monday a place as a crucial piece of dance music history... I'm baffled. The best selling 12" in history and utterly played out in clubs from the 80s to today.

1) Watch your mouth.


2) The fact that one tune is remixed to death by EDM artists doesn't make new order an EDM group. EDM was a 90s umbrella term, whereas new order were there from the 80s(their first album after joy division broke was from 1981 FGS.)

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Massive Attack are more downtempo, but it's not impossible to dance to trip-hop.

Whatever, Massive Attack is no EDM. As you said "trip-hop" is a sub-genre of "hip-hop". (Although i would say it's a completely different genre)

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But mainly, I don't care if you like New Order more than Faithless- keep your fucking opinion out of objective discussion. Frankly I think Faithless are better than New Order, especially on the lyrical and production levels. And if you're going to ignore The Shamen's accomplishments before Mr C came in... more's the folly. But what you deem to be good or not doesn't change that they are all major names who've used male vocals well in dance music.

3)Watch your mouth again..."keep your "fucking opinion" doesn't sound nice...

4) Yes, but when i mention new order i don't mean just their bloody hit-"blue monday". I mean whole albums of amazing new-wave music like "movement"(a dark 1981 album..."dreams never end"), "power,corruption and lies" and "low-life". THESE were the great albums, not just a bloody top-ten hit like blue monday (or insomnia or drifting away for that matter). These albums had the atmosphere, reverbed guitars, triballistic drums (the type of joy division ones), amazing synth-lines...New Order were legendary, they were up there with Depeche Mode in the 80s. They are in a different scene alltogether...

but anyway...that's just my "fucking" opinion...you don't have to get fucking enraged or anything for fucks sake.Fuck.

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Originally posted by PETRAN 2) The fact that one tune is remixed to death by EDM artists doesn't make new order an EDM group. EDM was a 90s umbrella term, whereas new order were there from the 80s(their first album after joy division broke was from 1981 FGS.)

Who said anything about "one tune"? Half their discography has been remixed. Furthermore, I didn't say they were explicitely EDM- I said New Order's vocals work in an EDM context, IE: the dance remixes. And then Detroit techno is from the early 80s too. Are you going to deny it's Electronic Dance Music?

Oh fuck it. Typically PETRAN bullshit. You can't actually argue my post- you have to reinterpret it to something completely different and then argue with that. Are you going to deny my point- that male vocals have been used successfully in dance music, or are you just going to ejaculate superlatives over New Order?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J But mainly, I don't care if you like New Order more than Faithless- keep your fucking opinion out of objective discussion. Frankly I think Faithless are better than New Order, especially on the lyrical and production levels.

you dont really like maxi's vocals do you? the actually written material is great but i think once he opens his mouth a good track becomes sour.

all the faithless mixes that imo are by far the best are the ones without the vocals. on the euphoria cds a few years back, one was euphoria 'transendental' the first song which was faithless was great without the vocals.

i think their productions are much better without him.

i also think new order are great and would be classified as edm. they were one of the main electronica groups pushing the genre forward.

I'm not even talking about Maxi Jazz, although I love his delivery. They've featured sung male vocals on three of their four albums. Jamie Catto featured extensively on the first two, and LSK on the last one.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Whatever, Massive Attack is no EDM. As you said "trip-hop" is a sub-genre of "hip-hop". (Although i would say it's a completely different genre)

Hip-hop is EDM, and so is trip-hop.

I can't even be bothered to start that argument with him.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I can't even be bothered to start that argument with him.

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Originally posted by GrimReaper Schiller - Ruhe (Ayla Remix)

+ 1 ... i don't like male vocals, but this sounds ok.

Edit: Moby - Porcelain the vocals are ok too i like.

Gabriel & Dresden feat Jan Burton- Dangerous Power is pretty sik, imo

unkle - reign
unkle - burn my shadow feat. ian astbury
unkle - invasion feat. robert del naja
unkle - lonely soul

hmm I see a pattern here

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I hate "electronica" just as much. Massive Attack were around long before American journalists coined that buzzword.

American journalists? i don't know what the fuck you're on about. I call it electronica because in spanish, that's what its called...musica electronica. It so happens they use the term in english as well. It's much more general than EDM, and it just sounds better.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Are you telling me that they don't work when Underworld, Fluke, Faithless, The Chemical Brothers, The Prodigy, Stereo MC's, Fatboy Slim, Happy Mondays, Primal Scream, Leftfield, Pendulum, Massive Attack, New Order, The Shamen and The KLF (to name some blazingly obvious examples) have used them?

Yes I am saying that - you have listed some broadly electronic artists who have used male vocals - you think I will suddenly reverse my statement???

I've read your replies to other posts in this thread - you make me laugh........ how can you possibly claim to be able to offer an objective opinion about something as subjective as music.

Do you have the emotion control skills of Mr Spock?????

'Objective discussion about dance music...........it is illogical Jim...........'

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Originally posted by Gillis maximus Amoeba Assasin - Piledriver

+ 94902349023534534543

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Originally posted by RJT Either: Underworld - Two Months Off or Amoebassasin - Piledriver

+12312312928304230420934729457h csoaify832q97465109324

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean American journalists? i don't know what the fuck you're on about. I call it electronica because in spanish, that's what its called...musica electronica. It so happens they use the term in english as well. It's much more general than EDM, and it just sounds better.

Fair enough, but to the English speaking world, "electronica" is a buzzword with distinct connotations of the mid-1990s. If you're going to use a term, it'd save confusion by specifying which one you mean, because this is a thread in English.

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Originally posted by Prototrance Yes I am saying that - you have listed some broadly electronic artists who have used male vocals - you think I will suddenly reverse my statement??? I've read your replies to other posts in this thread - you make me laugh........ how can you possibly claim to be able to offer an objective opinion about something as subjective as music. Do you have the emotion control skills of Mr Spock????? 'Objective discussion about dance music...........it is illogical Jim...........'

I find it baffling that someone who owns so many records and has been listening to music for so long can apparently have tastes that happen to miss out every single out of these examples, not to mention the countless others out there.

It seems universally true to me that the older and more diverse your tastes are, the more tolerant towards different genres and features of music. Male vocals are a pretty fundamental aspect of music: if you count the thousands of records out there with male vocals, it seems like an incredibly bizarre thing to dislike. It's not as if we're talking about abstract jazz in dance music, is it?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Fair enough, but to the English speaking world, "electronica" is a buzzword with distinct connotations of the mid-1990s. If you're going to use a term, it'd save confusion by specifying which one you mean, because this is a thread in English.

I even call it electronica when im speaking english though, i would never call it EDM or electronic music.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Male vocals are a pretty fundamental aspect of music: if you count the thousands of records out there with male vocals, it seems like an incredibly bizarre thing to dislike.

I'm sorry but lol.

It's by far not incredible to dislike because it depends on a subjective attitude towards male vocals in general.

A person that dislikes spiders in general won't be pleased about even one out of 35.000 different kinds of species.

Just accept that, boy.

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Originally posted by Prototrance 'Objective discussion about dance music...........it is illogical Jim...........'

^^

vector 13 - rise

definitely one of my favorites since hearing it off of GU024

+juan to piledriver as well

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It seems universally true to me that the older and more diverse your tastes are, the more tolerant towards different genres and features of music.

This is true - a broader appreciation of genres comes with time and I think exposure to more styles / clubs / DJ's, in my case meeting new people who listen to different genres.

But what doesn't change with time is preference. Whether a male vocal is used in prog house, trance or Nu electro I still probably won't be a fan of it. For me a male vocal doesn't sit well with the genres of dance music I like and own records of.

If you look at my non dance / electronic CD's / Vinyls - for example the rock / metal ones it's just about all male vocals because A. They are dominant in these genres B. Personally I think they work with these genres.

Could it be that I prefer female vocals in dance music because they are domninat across the dance genres??? who knows....... its just my humble opinion and I only buy and listen to what I like.

P.S. - I have to go home and cook lasagne now, and not that microwaved shit either, so I'll pick this up tomorrow when I'll do no work at work .......again.

I never minded Moby's vocals. Everything he says is so poetic.

'Broken down cars like strung out old stars'

love it.

Above and Beyond - Alone Tonight.

fucking amazing choon. great vocals.

Kyau vs. Albert's vocals are good too, they just don't make sense.

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Originally posted by Prototrance But what doesn't change with time is preference. Whether a male vocal is used in prog house, trance or Nu electro I still probably won't be a fan of it. For me a male vocal doesn't sit well with the genres of dance music I like and own records of.

What my issue is is that people have connected "male vocals don't work" with the whole of electronic dance music. And then you go and say "Actually, they just don't work often in the genres I like." To say such a big musical ingrediant doesn't work within such a big musical umbrella.

Which is why I said "listen to more stuff", because to say something about all of EDM implies you've only heard a small part of it. You should really be saying "I hate male vocals in the EDM genres I prefer".

Dave Gahan- Dirty Sticky Floors (Junkie XL Mix)

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J "I hate male vocals in the EDM genres I prefer".

Thats that sorted then.

You got a list of your collection anywhere? - I'm curious. PM if you want.

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