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Posted by PETRAN on Nov-17-2006 21:29:
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Originally posted by Julien2
whole post is wrong. |
No, the only thing is wrong is you, saying my post is wrong without elaborating. oh and surely i don't think "minimal" or "neo-trance" or whatever this thing is called is made-up of guitars and violins...
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Originally posted by SMC
Here you have one goa tune released in 2005 and one released 2006, they share the characteristics of goa from the 90s. So stop whining about my comparison. What are you gonna tell me now, only tunes produced the same day can be compared? |
So, ok these tunes are made by old artists (at least filteria) who are stuck in the 90s goa/psy-trance sound...what's wrong with that?This is not proof of dfferent genres,it's only that they like it 90s...but ok ...you want to call it goa?Cool!
And i haven't misinterpeted anyone mister...nor distort anyone's sayings as you state.If you want to personally accuse me then at least back-it up properly with examples...!It's not my fault that half of the people were like "goa, no who said it's dead" (probably because they thought as psy and goa as one and the same ) and others thought of specific groups and still others of time-periods and/or groups. That was a salad not genre-definition...but ok, if today's fans (like Rebel9 said) refer to older trance as "psy-goa" and to modern just "psy" ok...
I was into trance personally in 96, and that is psy/goa which it was extremely famous in Greece back then, whith it's own scene and massive parties (still is...Wizzy noise, Jaia...).I can assure you that there was NO distinction or whatsoever.I have demonstrated the compilation by Astral themeselves in 1996 describing the scene as "Israeli Psychedelic Trance". I bought this compilation when it first came out. I used to read interviews back then from Astral stating their sound as "Psychedelic".The only distinction that was made (but this was not standart) was between the Israeli more morning scene and the european usually more night, acid-edged scene.
So, Maybe today's people in Isra-trance have a nostalgy for older psy/goa (as people do in epic trance as well today...it's always about 98-99...) and in order to distinquish from current stuff they tend to over-state the "goa" name...that is the "psy/goa" trance and not just the "psy" or "full-on" that is today. So, maybe this genre distinction is modern therefore. (Strangely though you still get "goa-trance" compilations as far as i know).
Posted by Tim Shady on Nov-17-2006 22:37:
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Originally posted by THE_Chris
Listen to the track you bastards |
Cool tune, not the best thing ever, but a solid goa track. will give the others a listen as well.
Posted by julien2 on Nov-18-2006 03:22:
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| No, the only thing is wrong is you, saying my post is wrong without elaborating. oh and surely i don't think "minimal" or "neo-trance" or whatever this thing is called is made-up of guitars and violins... |
you obviously dont understand why your post is so wrong.
i will not waste time with you. the explanation of what is neo-trance has been made many times in this topic. re-read.
Posted by PETRAN on Nov-18-2006 03:31:
Maybe you don't understand what EDM is?
Posted by julien2 on Nov-18-2006 06:50:
lol dumbest answer so far. no more time wasted with you.
thank you for sharing.

Posted by PEZ68 on Nov-18-2006 19:30:
Not a bad tune indeed. Chris, you should check this album from last year , most of the songs are pretty similar to this one.
Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Nov-18-2006 21:45:
Yeah Khetzal makes some very good stuff. 'Anamatha' is so damn nice
Posted by Psy-T on Nov-18-2006 22:49:
so, if i'm to seriously consider that yellow sunshine explosion compilation as the definition of the genre, "neo trance" is supposed to be a genre composed of the following:
- progressive house made mostly with sounds associated with psytrance (music that's been around widely at the very least since 2000)
- progressive house and tech house that borrows elements from 'lo-fi' music (around since the late 90s at the very least)
- "minimal" tech house (around since 2001 at the very least)
- "electro house" (around since early 2005 if not earlier)
...and this is supposed to be a new genre?
Posted by julien2 on Nov-18-2006 23:25:
now that's an intelligent post !!! (no sarcasm at all here)
i think it does take elements from all that...but isnt it what evolution is ?
we can argue whether or not it is a "new" genre for long !
for sure its not a breakthrough just a derivation of other genres....it does sound different and original though
Posted by PETRAN on Nov-19-2006 02:40:
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Originally posted by Julien2
or sure its not a breakthrough just a derivation of other genres....it does sound different and original though |
Yea, its a breakthrough genre since it is the only EDM sub-genre in which music is not made by synths!!!(in contrast to trance which is made by synths)...
Posted by Psy-T on Nov-19-2006 02:45:
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Originally posted by PETRAN
Yea, its a breakthrough genre since it is the only EDM sub-genre in which music is not made by synths!!!(in contrast to trance which is made by synths)... |
errr...unless you're being sarcastic, you're an idiot.
Posted by PETRAN on Nov-19-2006 02:48:
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Originally posted by julien2
trance inspiration = use of synths, which is the reconciliation between the minimalism (no synths) and trance (massive use of synths) |
It seems that i'm not an idiot and that someone doesn't read previous posts then...
Posted by Psy-T on Nov-19-2006 13:36:
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Originally posted by PETRAN
It seems that i'm not an idiot and that someone doesn't read previous posts then... |
oh of course, julien said, it must be correct in that case!
Posted by PETRAN on Nov-19-2006 16:24:
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Psy-T
oh of course, julien said, it must be correct in that case! |
OMG, i've been sarcastic stupid! Doh...
Posted by Psy-T on Nov-19-2006 16:34:
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Originally posted by PETRAN
OMG, i've been sarcastic stupid! Doh... |
oh my god, a rolleyes! i'm convinced now!
Posted by PETRAN on Nov-19-2006 16:41:
WTF?I've been sarcastic to Julien2 read my previous posts about the "synths-nosynths" crap!
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