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Originally posted by Arbiter If you want accurate results, you have to make such observations with an appropriate degree of sterility. Otherwise, you'll contaminate the sample.

The strain is only as strong as its virulence.

Re: Slylee's late night emo thread

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Originally posted by Slylee am i just being a pessimist about love?

not really. love isn't real. its just a programmed emotion that rewards you for replicating, or at least heading in that direction.

no one is "perfect for you". "perfection" is imaginatory. a fat geek who's wee wee has never been unleashed would find "true love" in just about anything - the lone female chess club member, or maybe a tube sock. but, there are lots of other female chess club members and tube socks out there. he just convinces himself that this is "the one" for him.

relationships are what you make them. i think the actual partner is only the tip of the iceberg, the effort you put in is more important.

I totally agree, mostly because it would be REALLY hard to find someone who meets your exact specifications.

perfection is subjective, not imaginary.
and love is real, for you to say that its a programmed emotion just means you havent experienced what love is..i don't blame you though..most people will never experience it..

most people who think they are in love are probably not.
a relationship will never work if there isnt real love involved..for me love is being able to compromise, make sacrifice and give unconditional support and care for someone simply because you know they are worth it. you know you love someone when that person always comes first in everything you do..above anything in anyone.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I agree, it's love when the sacrifices and down moments are totally worth it. Sometimes that's tough to find, and there will always be doubts... but I just wait for that moment, where I know deep down that any imperfection, any down side, is completely and 100% ok. I'm not expressing myself well, so I'll let Robin Williams do the rest.

best.fucking.movie.ever

and I agree wholeheartedly with robin williams.

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Originally posted by RapidFire best.fucking.movie.ever and I agree wholeheartedly with robin williams.

Although not the best film ever imo, it's certainly very good.. One of the few films where I could stand watching Robin Williams.

^ Love conquers all obstacles.

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Originally posted by astroboy I think while it's useful to think about what you want and sort it out in your head, ultimately the decision is not an intellectual one. Love just happens it's something you feel, not like a decision you make based on some formula. Although falling in love with someone doesn't mean ou're blind to their faults... You just don't really care about them because you're in love with the person. Sometimes the persons flaws are part of what makes them attractive.

no, you are 100% wrong. love takes work. you have to actively make the decision to love someone...none of this "it just happens" bullshit. the biggest misconception about true love is that in the beginning phase of a relationship, when you're all smitten and acting like a retard and doing things you don't normally do, that you are "in love", but realistically, that is anything BUT love. that is just your body physically & uncontrollably reacting to hormones. it's when that honeymoon phase dies down, and you make the choice to continue to put forth the effort into loving that person, that it becomes true love.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles ^ Love conquers all obstacles.

ehhh everything but the upset tummy

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean perfection is subjective, not imaginary. and love is real, for you to say that its a programmed emotion just means you havent experienced what love is..i don't blame you though..most people will never experience it.. most people who think they are in love are probably not. a relationship will never work if there isnt real love involved..for me love is being able to compromise, make sacrifice and give unconditional support and care for someone simply because you know they are worth it. you know you love someone when that person always comes first in everything you do..above anything in anyone.

Yup.

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Originally posted by Slylee no, you are 100% wrong. love takes work. you have to actively make the decision to love someone...none of this "it just happens" bullshit. the biggest misconception about true love is that in the beginning phase of a relationship, when you're all smitten and acting like a retard and doing things you don't normally do, that you are "in love", but realistically, that is anything BUT love. that is just your body physically & uncontrollably reacting to hormones. it's when that honeymoon phase dies down, and you make the choice to continue to put forth the effort into loving that person, that it becomes true love

Yup.





Haha...you can definitely tell who's been in love and who hasn't in this thread.

For me true love is when I stopped thinking about me and started thinking about us.

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Originally posted by Slylee no, you are 100% wrong. love takes work. you have to actively make the decision to love someone...none of this "it just happens" bullshit. the biggest misconception about true love is that in the beginning phase of a relationship, when you're all smitten and acting like a retard and doing things you don't normally do, that you are "in love", but realistically, that is anything BUT love. that is just your body physically & uncontrollably reacting to hormones. it's when that honeymoon phase dies down, and you make the choice to continue to put forth the effort into loving that person, that it becomes true love.

But it's also when continuing to put forth the effort is worth it, and you'd rather be slaving away to make it work than just saying "screw it". That's love, imo. It's surprising how many people will say that they're in love with someone, but never put in the time to make it work out. That's not love, imo.

buttsekz > truelove...

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Originally posted by Slylee no, you are 100% wrong. love takes work. you have to actively make the decision to love someone...none of this "it just happens" bullshit. the biggest misconception about true love is that in the beginning phase of a relationship, when you're all smitten and acting like a retard and doing things you don't normally do, that you are "in love", but realistically, that is anything BUT love. that is just your body physically & uncontrollably reacting to hormones. it's when that honeymoon phase dies down, and you make the choice to continue to put forth the effort into loving that person, that it becomes true love.

Well I have been in long-term relationships where I've been in love. And sure it does take work to keep it alive. I'm not saying it's easy. You do have to consciously work to put an effort into it and keep loving someone, but it's not a hard decision, because you're in love with them and incapable of being selfish in relation to that person (at least that's the way I feel)... To me if the work really feels "hard" then it isn't love. Making sacrifices, changing myself as a person etc etc were all piss-easy when I was in love. The only thing I did find hard was letting someone go because I felt she didn't love me and deserved to be with someone she loved.

I, for one, know that I can't make a conscious decision to fall in love with someone from scratch. And I know I wouldn't get in a relationship with someone I'm not already in love with. I don't think I can cause something like that to start by sheer effort.

I can't sit down after meeting someone and check a few boxes on my spreadsheet... "hmm let's not the best sense of humour, nice personality, she's got blond hair, I don't really like that, but she is rich.... hmm on the balance I think I'll fall in love with her".

I have a few friends that are like that. They make an intellectual decision to get in relationships and don't seem too distraught after break-ups. They're just looking for a partner to fill a role. Once they've done their interviews and figured out the most suited applicant they offer them the job, if it doesn't work out they let them go.... I don't think that's the phenomenon that centuries of artists, musicians, writers and poets have been so passionate about.

Hmmmmmyes, the green one also has a point.


<---thankful she's got the whole package.

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Originally posted by astroboy Well I have been in long-term relationships where I've been in love. And sure it does take work to keep it alive. I'm not saying it's easy. You do have to consciously work to put an effort into it and keep loving someone, but it's not a hard decision, because you're in love with them and incapable of being selfish in relation to that person (at least that's the way I feel)... To me if the work really feels "hard" then it isn't love. Making sacrifices, changing myself as a person etc etc were all piss-easy when I was in love. The only thing I did find hard was letting someone go because I felt she didn't love me and deserved to be with someone she loved. I, for one, know that I can't make a conscious decision to fall in love with someone from scratch. And I know I wouldn't get in a relationship with someone I'm not already in love with. I don't think I can cause something like that to start by sheer effort. I can't sit down after meeting someone and check a few boxes on my spreadsheet... "hmm let's not the best sense of humour, nice personality, she's got blond hair, I don't really like that, but she is rich.... hmm on the balance I think I'll fall in love with her". I have a few friends that are like that. They make an intellectual decision to get in relationships and don't seem too distraught after break-ups. They're just looking for a partner to fill a role. Once they've done their interviews and figured out the most suited applicant they offer them the job, if it doesn't work out they let them go.... I don't think that's the phenomenon that centuries of artists, musicians, writers and poets have been so passionate about.

you're still missing the whole point. i said AFTER the honeymoon phase dies down, that's when you have to decide if you still really want to be with that person, despite the fact that things aren't as exciting any more, and that now you know she has foot odor and gas in the mornings and can't balance a checkbook with a gun to her head...

i didn't mean sit with someone at dinner and go down your checklist of superficial things like "money" or "blonde hair".

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Originally posted by astroboy Well I have been in long-term relationships where I've been in love. And sure it does take work to keep it alive. I'm not saying it's easy. You do have to consciously work to put an effort into it and keep loving someone, but it's not a hard decision, because you're in love with them and incapable of being selfish in relation to that person (at least that's the way I feel)... To me if the work really feels "hard" then it isn't love. Making sacrifices, changing myself as a person etc etc were all piss-easy when I was in love. The only thing I did find hard was letting someone go because I felt she didn't love me and deserved to be with someone she loved. I, for one, know that I can't make a conscious decision to fall in love with someone from scratch. And I know I wouldn't get in a relationship with someone I'm not already in love with. I don't think I can cause something like that to start by sheer effort. I can't sit down after meeting someone and check a few boxes on my spreadsheet... "hmm let's not the best sense of humour, nice personality, she's got blond hair, I don't really like that, but she is rich.... hmm on the balance I think I'll fall in love with her". I have a few friends that are like that. They make an intellectual decision to get in relationships and don't seem too distraught after break-ups. They're just looking for a partner to fill a role. Once they've done their interviews and figured out the most suited applicant they offer them the job, if it doesn't work out they let them go.... I don't think that's the phenomenon that centuries of artists, musicians, writers and poets have been so passionate about.

I had to read that twice just to understand it, it was so deep. But on the whole, I agree. I don't understand how people can slip in and out of relationships so often, etc. It's all based on an impersonal business decision. lol, I hate minds like that.

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Originally posted by Slylee you're still missing the whole point. i said AFTER the honeymoon phase dies down, that's when you have to decide if you still really want to be with that person, despite the fact that things aren't as exciting any more, and that now you know she has foot odor and gas in the mornings and can't balance a checkbook with a gun to her head... i didn't mean sit with someone at dinner and go down your checklist of superficial things like "money" or "blonde hair".

Yeah that was a bit facetious of me, I know you're smart enough that you didn't mean the superficial stuff.

But generally I do agree with you. Once the infatuation is over you know you love the person if the flaws you start to notice don't make a difference.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy these are wise words guys. liisten to me. IGK may have the right idea

i dated a 16 year old whne i was 23.. it was fun

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Originally posted by Slylee so clovis and i were just briefly discussing "true love", and i've come to the conclusion that no matter who you end up with, you are still making sacrifices (about things u want in a partner) and need to prioritize your needs. what do u need most? trust? someone you can depend on? some who intellectually stimulates you like no other person can (yet they keep you on your toes a lot, which, to me, is NOT true love)? am i just being a pessimist about love? i really think that true love is about prioritizing your needs and meeting them... discuss.

umm...i think true love is when you love each other unconditionally and you respect each other. you want to make them feel good (and for the dirties reading this, not just sexually!), etc. i could go on and on. it's also about reciprocation.

my needs... trust, honesty, someone i know is there for me and respects me.

and all of these hollywood marriages aren't helping send a positive message about relationships out there.

how in the hell do you marry someone and divorce them in less than 5 months or so?

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 and all of these hollywood marriages aren't helping send a positive message about relationships out there. how in the hell do you marry someone and divorce them in less than 5 months or so?

I don't know, but you got a nice rack.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 and all of these hollywood marriages aren't helping send a positive message about relationships out there. how in the hell do you marry someone and divorce them in less than 5 months or so?

People who look to the media for guidance are fucking stupid. Can't blame Hollywood for that.

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Originally posted by Slylee I don't know, but you got a nice rack.

oh thanks!

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Originally posted by jennypie People who look to the media for guidance are fucking stupid. Can't blame Hollywood for that.

yes. you are very correct about that but there sadly way too many that idolize and look up to these people. i should say many younger people.

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Originally posted by Slylee I don't know, but you got a nice rack.

LOL



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