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Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Dec-19-2006 21:41:
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Originally posted by Sykonee
Hehe. Cobalt and Boogard's exchange shows just why neo-trance will get more popular in trance circles. |
But not too much, not too much... I don�t really want to see Armin playing new Eulberg or Bodzin tune in ASOT. Hell.. M.I.K.E. already does that.
Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 21:46:
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Originally posted by paulandrews
But not too much, not too much... I don�t really want to see Armin playing new Eulberg or Bodzin tune in ASOT. Hell.. M.I.K.E. already does that. |
Yes, those guys should perhaps only dabble in 1 or 2 records per year like this, as Tiesto proved in 2002 a few techno records splattered through a set make for an interesting time. He's doing it again now, which from my point of view, is superb. Its even creating bad criticism from his n00b fans who are bitching why he doesnt play straight-up trance anymore. You have got to love that. They go to a concert freshly mesmorizing the words to Love Comes Again and Just Be in the car on the way... only to listen to Marc Houle - Bay Of Figs. Get in!
But there is a line to be drawn for sure. They should remember they're still trance DJs' but are just borrowing a bomb from a techno/house genre, rather than changing styles.
A few people are even criticising how this "borrowing" process is bastardising the scene too, i'm sure that all the big name jocks were spitting blood @ Tijs finally picking up Gebrunn Gebrunn these last few months. It really was still a fresh tune in everyone's boxes right?
Sorry went off on a tangent there... i guess the bottom line to my point is, at least Tiesto didn't decide this year to just stick to "discover" trance and be done with it. Thank God there is still some kind of thought process going on somewhere in that head of his.
Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Dec-19-2006 22:04:
Yeah, that could be the good side of it. Tiesto with all his influence chooses some quality tunes from other genres and gives them to a huge MTV-oriented crowd.
But then comes Tyas and fucking ruins a song like Domino (although not 'officialy'). That�s what should definitely not happen to neotrance.
Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 22:11:
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Originally posted by paulandrews
Yeah, that could be the good side of it. Tiesto with all his influence chooses some quality tunes from other genres and gives them to a huge MTV-oriented crowd.
But then comes Tyas and fucking ruins a song like Domino (although not 'officialy'). That�s what should definitely not happen to neotrance. |
hell yeah if they start touching that stuff, its time to stop the revolution!
Thing is, people are using that above excuse as a reason why hating Tiesto is still OK, cos he is now bastardising those tunes, to the mass market... well newsflash, that mass market seriously only reacts to his own hits. At his shows you can see it, apart from the compulsory first tune, most people are just standing around milling about until they hear Traffic.
Their whole night revolves around hearing that Dance4Life track for some bizare reason. Meanwhile, the handful of people there with a clue, are going mental on Landsky - 1000 Miles and Vitalic La Rock.
I don't think Tiesto presenting a wider picture of EDM will have any influence on his "minions" only those that also DJ, the ones that do nothing but buy tunes he plays or spin in the same order he does.
re: Tyas... if he'd made 2-3 good productions and stuck with them, it would've been very easy to say this guys done well. But to make (and remake) everything under the sun, just proves its not a hobby for that guy anymore. Thats sad.
Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 22:18:
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Ame - Rej (Pastaboys Club Mix) is the one that drives along in my sets
The drive comes when you pitch up these tracks to a trance-serviceable 138 - 140.. although maybe Cobalt will not agree there, I think that they then sound very 1995-96 techno/trance hybrid genre style rather than glitchy |
yeah i'd want to pitch them up also. but i think the strength of the kick is important too.. not saying they should all have a massive discover-style kick & offbeat bassline slapped on top (although i'm sure a certain mr tyas could fix that up either way
), just something more prominent.. especially when mixing it with progressive trance & whatnot
just needs that *thump* for me, even at slower bpms
Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 22:24:
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
only to listen to Marc Houle - Bay Of Figs. Get in! |
hehe, i just checked that out on beatport, and instantly recognised it from his set at godskitchen last month, remember it sounded fucking awesome! he played it towards the end of his set between some trance & techy stuff and it worked amazingly
Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 22:40:
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Originally posted by isoterra
hehe, i just checked that out on beatport, and instantly recognised it from his set at godskitchen last month, remember it sounded fucking awesome! he played it towards the end of his set between some trance & techy stuff and it worked amazingly |
yep that was a superb moment - I was there with a certain neon orange friend of mine somewhere near the front
y'see when i first checked that track out on beatport - it was like, hmmm ok, its a car engine revving, and its going on for ages.
In a club, even when its TIESTO... it was earth-shatteringly good - bass-heavy and thundering around Gods.
he mixed it with Vitalic - La Rock... i could've died right there
Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 22:43:
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
yep that was a superb moment - I was there with a certain neon orange friend of mine somewhere near the front  |
heh, was his name dicken by any remote chance?
Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 22:45:
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Originally posted by isoterra
heh, was his name dicken by any remote chance? |
sunglasses were essential
Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 22:48:
lol i think i know him, friend of a friend. if that's the case i was dancing about 2m away from you with my back to the speaker 
Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-19-2006 22:54:
I give this year a big thumbs down.
I actually haven't heard any recent stuff.
Posted by vbmaster on Dec-19-2006 22:57:
Listening to this awesome A State of Trance Yearmix 2006, I can only say:
2006 was great!
P.S.: the first asot I'm enjoying from the beginning to the end.
Posted by InDeepSpace on Dec-19-2006 23:15:
2006 was a good year for music. Trance still offers many nice tunes, especially the sounds from Intuition-Crew was enormous tis year. Also Anjunabeats was way better then last year, some really top tunes. Biggest dissapointment of the year were Armin & Armada. ASOT went pants tis year and second half of the year Armada hadnt any good tune anyway. Apart from Trance Techno really offers tons of good records. Especially da swedish cru around Adam Beyer releases tons of monsterz.
Anyway the big thing I found this year were Hardcore Breakz. Ther are many people who are givin the old sounds from 91-93 new life by refinding this sound. I think it is the start of sumthing big. 
Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-20-2006 00:10:
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Originally posted by vbmaster
Listening to this awesome A State of Trance Yearmix 2006, I can only say:
2006 was great!
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listening to it now... I am not impressed
Posted by Cobalt on Dec-20-2006 00:16:
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Originally posted by paulandrews
But then comes Tyas and fucking ruins a song like Domino (although not 'officialy'). That�s what should definitely not happen to neotrance. |
If any epic producers even think of "reinterpreting" neotrance, it's time to start mailing the anthrax.
Posted by Cobalt on Dec-20-2006 00:20:
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Vath has really come back onto form this year. |
I think my favorite set of the year was Sven at Mysteryland.
Posted by vbmaster on Dec-20-2006 00:30:
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Originally posted by Marc Summers
listening to it now... I am not impressed |
We can't expect a brilliant set in terms of mix, but the track selection is definitely there, and represents 2006.
Posted by Light The Fuse on Dec-20-2006 01:01:
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Originally posted by vbmaster
We can't expect a brilliant set in terms of mix, but the track selection is definitely there, and represents 2006. |
it represents armin for 2006 - not 2006
Posted by Cobalt on Dec-20-2006 01:14:
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Ame - Rej (Pastaboys Club Mix) is the one that drives along in my sets |
I am going to flame this part though.
The Pastaboys mix should never have been pressed to vinyl; it strips away all the depth and mystery that makes Rej what it is, recasting it as paper-thin pop house. Sort of like what Victor Calderone does to every track he touches.
Hundred Birds is a little better than that, but fails to capture the deep quality that makes Rej such a great production, and isn't a patch on the original.
Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-20-2006 01:29:
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Originally posted by Light The Fuse
it represents armin for 2006 - not 2006 |
Maybe that's why I'm not impressed
Posted by Futureshock on Dec-20-2006 01:34:
So.Much.Music.
2006 was the year of the digital label. Two of my favourite tunes of the year were digital only releases. There's a lot more average releases overall it seems, but there were plenty of amazing tunes as well.
I really agree about genres coming together - genre labels seem less useful than they did a year ago. This is also a good thing.
Also neo-trance, wtf? 
Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-20-2006 03:53:
2006 has been a great year for House, but I checked out on Trance fairly early on. Some of the more proggish elements of Trance have been pretty good though.
Posted by Bassaka on Dec-20-2006 04:15:
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Originally posted by Futureshock
Also neo-trance, wtf? |
Neo-trance? Someone explain!
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I also think 2006 was a great year for House, some massive tunes out. And yea, 2006 definately was the year of the digital.
Posted by Sykonee on Dec-20-2006 05:31:
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Originally posted by Bassaka
Neo-trance? Someone explain! |
It's been explained, but to re-iterate:
Neo-trance is an offshoot of the 'minimal' techno camps that bares similarities to what trance sounded like in the early 90s. Simple, loopy, hypnotic stuff that is concerned about creating atmosphere rather than bludgeoning you with big synths and redundant breakdowns.
Posted by halexander837 on Dec-20-2006 05:54:
I only know a certain amount of tracks from 06, but to tell you the truth, I think 06 was a pretty decent year for EDM.
I listened to trance, hardstyle, house, techno, tek-house and a little bit of old rock through the year.
2007 expects to be more of a surprise.
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