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Posted by Durafei on Jan-11-2007 19:23:

Another thing:

Apple is re-defining what consumers are looking for in an electronics device. Before, all we wanted from a device was to work, Apple wants us to value it's looks as well. And things that look better are more expensive.

Electronics are becoming like clothes. You can pay $50 for Jeans and you can pay $200. Similarly, you can pay 1000 for a Monitor and Computer(2 boxes), and you can pay 1700 for a Mac (Monitor, with a built-in computer, just 1 box, more visually appealing)


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jan-11-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
This is turning into an Apple bashing thread, and though I won't stick up for everything Apple does, I will stick up for them. I switched to a MacBook after using Windows since Windows 95 (OS/2 Warp when it was around). I love OSX and I wouldn't switch back. I now wonder why I didn't switch sooner.


you use Mac now?


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jan-11-2007 19:57:

Maybe the name will have to be changed.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2082362,00.asp


Posted by jonnystel on Jan-11-2007 19:59:

i switxhed to macbook about 4 moths ago and i love everything about it .. never going back to pc lol


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-11-2007 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Maybe the name will have to be changed.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2082362,00.asp


quote:

While both companies have been in "serious discussions" over the past few weeks about how they could possibly share the iPhone trademark, for now Apple to be going ahead with its branding scheme sans an official agreement with Cisco.


AKA

quote:
Apple
"Fuck you, Cisco."


Posted by harcourt on Jan-11-2007 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
you use Mac now?


Yah, I got a MacBook Pro to replace my Dell. Love it


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-11-2007 21:09:

People will point out that many other companies are using the "iPhone" moniker on their products, but Cisco either owns or has exclusive dealings with those companies in order for that shit to go down.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-11-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Yah, I got a MacBook Pro to replace my Dell. Love it


Do you use any MS Office apps on it?


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-11-2007 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Do you use any MS Office apps on it?


I love using MS Word and Excel on Macs! So great.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-11-2007 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
I love using MS Word and Excel on Macs! So great.


...it's just like using them in Windows...


Posted by smuncky on Jan-11-2007 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
...it's just like using them in Windows...


yeh but its on a MAC!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-11-2007 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
...it's just like using them in Windows...


thats the best part!


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-11-2007 23:14:

Who else is anxious for this trademark suit to get to courts? Should be really interesting to watch, especially since Apple is being so cocky about it.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-12-2007 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
yeh but its on a MAC!


Hahah, yeah. If people think Office looks all purdy on a Mac, they should see Office 2007. It is eyecandy galore, and holy fuck is it ever easy to use.


Posted by MarkT on Jan-12-2007 07:33:

Stephen Colbert tonight: Apple released it's new iPhone. The best feature? Being able to call all your friends and tell them that you have one.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-12-2007 17:41:


quote:



Japan far ahead of iPhone
Cellphones there used for everything from buying milk to booking a train

Bruce Wallace
Toronto Star


TOKYO�Tomoaki Kurita presides over racks of cellphones lined up outside his shop on a busy sidewalk in Harajuku, Tokyo's catwalk of youth street culture where people attracted by the riot of phone options can stop to flip open and fondle the latest models of what the Japanese call a "keitai."

From behind his busy counter, Kurita giggles when asked about the excitement in the United States over the arrival of Apple's iPhone cellphone that also could be used to download music and surf the Internet.

"Sounds like business as usual," he says.

As stock markets swooned and techies buzzed over Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs' long-awaited entry into the cellphone market, Japanese consumers could be excused for wondering: Why the fuss?

Many Japanese had a hard time buying Jobs' hype about "reinventing" the phone. The revolution is well underway in Japan, where cellphones are used for everything from navigating your way home by GPS to buying movie tickets and updating your blog from wherever you are.

Oh yeah. Japanese cellphones also download music, surf the Net and make phone calls.

They've been a natural extension of daily life the past few years, spurred by the Japanese decision to be the first country to upgrade to third-generation cellphone networks, or 3G, which increased broadband capabilities and allowed for greater, faster transmission of voice and data. Apple's iPhone, by comparison, will operate on a 2G network.

It was 3G that sparked the boom in music downloads that makes it common for phones to be used as portable digital music players here.

And it is 3G that has led the Japanese into a world where they can watch live TV on their phones, use the phone as a charge card to ride trains or buy milk at the corner store or take a taxi, and conduct conference calls between as many as five people. Ticket Pia, Japan's major entertainment ticketing agency, has been selling email tickets to cellphones since 2003.

Most observers contend the U.S. has begun to close the gap on cellphone use in Japan, South Korea and Europe. Music downloads by cellphone are rising in the U.S. � and the long-term threat to iPod's lead in downloads was a major force behind Apple's entry into cellphones. Other functions are following.

"We plan to introduce one-way video conferencing in the U.S. this year," says Melissa Elkins of LG Electronics MobileCOMM, referring to a function that would allow one person to be visible to the other during a phone call. Two-way telephony has been available in South Korea for about 18 months, Elkins says.

But the biggest difference between the U.S. and countries like Japan is the culture the keitai has created. To wait for a light on a Tokyo street corner or ride a train these days is to see crowds of people with their heads down, thumbs pumping as they send photos, text message or play online games on their phone. Increasingly, they are reading books and manga comics on their phones, too.

The keitai has become an extension of personality.

There is software to create a personalized home page on the cellphone. Young men and women customize their phones, hang posses of tiny dolls off them, cover them with stickers and paints.

"I like it because it's cute," says Mami Nawa, 23, as she shows off the dial pad she has painted in purple and pink tones. "And with my long nails, the paint gives me a better feel for the phone. It curves more."

Nawa spent about $170 (U.S.) on her phone and another $25 to decorate it, although she says some friends spend much more � on the decoration, not the phone. But neither she nor friend Makiko Yamada, who are sampling the phones in Harajuku, would pay anything close to $500 for a cellphone, they say.

Like other Japanese consumers, Nawa and Yamada pick and choose the functions they want. They don't use their phones as charge cards � known here as the "wallet function."

But they check train schedules and have made hotel reservations with their phones. They keep music on their phones and subscribe to daily emails that deliver news headlines and fortune telling. They shop from their phones from online sites and bid for goods in online auctions.


LOS ANGELES TIMES



source:
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/170455


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-12-2007 18:59:

^ lol, owned.

funny how in Japan, where technology is so far ahead of US, uses 3G for everything, and iPhone doesn't have 3G. Next generation indeed.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-12-2007 20:12:

Well, that's what I said in my first post ... the iPhone isn't a big deal to me. They basiclly stole all the functions and layouts and etc from every pda phone and made it work, only the common person is freaking out.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-13-2007 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
The best feature? Being able to call all your friends and tell them that you have one.



Golden.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-13-2007 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
only the common person is freaking out.


...and the only reason is because it looks nice.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-13-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
...and the only reason is because it looks nice.


It looks ok, wish they made the screen smaller and added a keyboard.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-13-2007 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
It looks ok, wish they made the screen smaller and added a keyboard.


That'd be cool. I bet they'll get nowhere near the advertised battery life out of one of those things.

That said, I want an HTC TyTN right this second.


Posted by zoogla on Jan-13-2007 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
It looks ok, wish they made the screen smaller and added a keyboard.

I think it's impossible to do that any longer without infringing one of the 2 billion copyrights for that design!
quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
That said, I want an HTC TyTN right this second.

I will never tire of how cool you talk.


Posted by harcourt on Jan-13-2007 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Do you use any MS Office apps on it?


No. I tried it, but it's Office 2004, and written for the PPC. Doesn't look that great IMO. MS has announced Office 2008 for the Mac and it will be a universal binary rather than PPC. I'm using NeoOffice (OpenOffice Port) at the moment and it works great.


Posted by harcourt on Jan-13-2007 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
that said, I want an HTC TyTN right this second.


It is a very nace.


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