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Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-20-2007 09:24:

quote:
Originally posted by klingklang77
and i think (he isnt sure, but they were english and either poor or a convict) i married one of the convict ancestors...


So you'll always be wealthy

Just don't ask where the $$$ comes from


Posted by trancepunkk on Jan-20-2007 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by klingklang77
and i think (he isnt sure, but they were english and either poor or a convict) i married one of the convict ancestors...


people dont realize that there were alot of other people who came with these "convicts". at the time england was overpopulated immensely so they would look for any excuse to deport someone, hardly any of these so called convicts committed serious crimes...


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-20-2007 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by trancepunkk
people dont realize that there were alot of other people who came with these "convicts". at the time england was overpopulated immensely so they would look for any excuse to deport someone, hardly any of these so called convicts committed serious crimes...


i understand. still whenever my husband says something about america, it is always fun to play the convict card...


Posted by trancepunkk on Jan-20-2007 09:58:

lol yea i know, its funny though because no americans or australians for that matter get offended at all by that


Posted by MrSquirrel on Jan-20-2007 10:36:

Australia's "convicts" were mostly people who owed outstanding tax and personal debts.

It was effectively a debtors' prison colony, not some kind of Snake Pliskin playground


MrS


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jan-20-2007 10:40:

Plus Adelaide was settled only by free settlers, no convicts sent here


I saw a doco (actually only 5 mins worth, I gave up on it cos it was crap) about convicts and one was a 15 year old girl who stole some clothes. What a heinous crime!


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-20-2007 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
Australia's "convicts" were mostly people who owed outstanding tax and personal debts.

It was effectively a debtors' prison colony, not some kind of Snake Pliskin playground


MrS


So you're saying my (possible?) ancestors sucked at their yearly tax returns? Fuck. I guess the English thought that sending the convicts to a warm place was sending them that much closer to the flames of hell.

Oh well


Posted by Eagle` on Jan-20-2007 10:43:

aussie english


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-20-2007 10:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle`
aussie english


Now just what in the hell do you mean by that???


Posted by Lilith on Jan-20-2007 10:50:

They also sent a very large amount of convicts to the American's for similar things for a lot longer and lot earlier than Australia (1617), up until the ruckus of 1775, indeed between 1718 and 1775 a full 1/4 of the people going to the US where english convicts (around 50,000 or so)
Other interesting fact where that the US kept things like Convict Leases in place for a very long time, up until the mid to late 1920's, farmers and local councils bought them off the prison system for manual labour. Nasty stuff.


Posted by D-res on Jan-20-2007 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
surprised nobody mentioned this guy...



Thats what I was thinkin


Posted by Eagle` on Jan-20-2007 13:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Now just what in the hell do you mean by that???


Actually it's bad example, it's not a export product or somethin, but I adore your accent


Posted by MrSquirrel on Jan-20-2007 13:26:



MrS


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-20-2007 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
They also sent a very large amount of convicts to the American's for similar things for a lot longer and lot earlier than Australia (1617), up until the ruckus of 1775, indeed between 1718 and 1775 a full 1/4 of the people going to the US where english convicts (around 50,000 or so)
Other interesting fact where that the US kept things like Convict Leases in place for a very long time, up until the mid to late 1920's, farmers and local councils bought them off the prison system for manual labour. Nasty stuff.


my husband was trying to tell me tonite that americans were convicts. i didnt believe him, saying americans were seeking religious freedom and seeking taxation without representation


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-20-2007 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Plus Adelaide was settled only by free settlers, no convicts sent here


adelaide- city of churches.


Posted by Lilith on Jan-20-2007 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by klingklang77
my husband was trying to tell me tonite that americans were convicts. i didnt believe him, saying americans were seeking religious freedom and seeking taxation without representation


Damn you, I don't want to poke fun of Kraftwerk fans... (poor little EBM apprecionardo's are few and far between) But go on, go do some digging around and see who turns up in the family tree from that period

Lilith is also immensely drunk so don't take any of this to heart!


Posted by noikeee on Jan-20-2007 18:36:

How in hell can you be "immensely drunk" and still write perfectly articulate english, and apply forum size tags correctly?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-20-2007 19:57:

I have been throw-up drunk at times and was still able to type perfectly. I couldn't speak well at all, but I could type. Weird.


Posted by noikeee on Jan-20-2007 19:59:

Maybe it's because when you type you can look at what you wrote, press backspace and try again. When you talk, you say stupid shit but can't go back and erase it.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-20-2007 20:02:

That's probably part of it, but I didn't really make many mistakes, either. Probably just a few more per minute than if I had been sober.

The fact that I type many, many, many words more than I speak each day probably has something to do with it. My typing muscles are much more coordinated than my speaking ones.


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-21-2007 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Damn you, I don't want to poke fun of Kraftwerk fans... (poor little EBM apprecionardo's are few and far between) But go on, go do some digging around and see who turns up in the family tree from that period

Lilith is also immensely drunk so don't take any of this to heart!


whose family tree? mine or his?


Posted by Lilith on Jan-21-2007 03:31:

Yours
Unless of course most of your 'lations came over on a boat after the 1780's+ then it's probably not really worth it unless youre really want to chase down the married-related branches looking for criminal relatives

quote:
How in hell can you be "immensely drunk" and still write perfectly articulate english, and apply forum size tags correctly?


Probably because it's the only thing I'm doing... aside from breathing and thinking very, very slow, dropping me from about 60wpm to about 15


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-22-2007 09:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Yours
Unless of course most of your 'lations came over on a boat after the 1780's+ then it's probably not really worth it unless youre really want to chase down the married-related branches looking for criminal relatives


yeah my family went over to the US in 1910+ from Italy and Poland. my brother did a whole family tree dating back to the late 1700s. we did have an italian horse thief, but he wasnt sent over b/c of that. they came over on their own. does that count?


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Jan-22-2007 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith

Sadly most Australians will never appreciate Nick Cave and his band as they had to go overseas to make it big.


You kidding me. Nick Cave it awesome! But it's true that bands can "make it big" overseas. You have to remember that Australias population is about 20 million, where as Europes population is nearly 400 million & USAs is around 300 million; so of course they will make it big in other countries because there is a bigger market there!!


Posted by eROs.au on Jan-23-2007 00:17:


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