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Originally posted by UWM Quick everyone, let's all cater to Whirloop. It's obvious that his personal music agenda is more important than ours.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations You do realize I was kidding and don't agree with the divison into subforms at all right?

Umm...I'm not sure, which statement were you intending to be jocular?...I quite frankly don't think that the notion of a "house discussion" would be a bad idea.

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Originally posted by Cobalt The poor state of trance causes the lack of trance posts, not the other way around. Like I said, I'd love to post about trance. But there just isn't much to talk about.

So why on earth do you feel inclined to be judging a style of music based on its current condition? There's a history if you didn't notice, one that has a lot of great listening material. You don't have to be talking about every freaking new tune being released in order to be a fan and discuss the positive aspects of a style of music.

...and trance isn't exactly "hopelessly horrific" right now. ANY style of music is dominated by mostly worthless material, at least, in my opinion. ...what makes you think there should be an exception in order to warrant a better interest?

i still lissen to trance to relax and sing to melody. But when i wanna really loose myself to the beat, trance just isn't enough. I dont consider most of trance as dance music, more like happy mood music, that's why i prefer random noise.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes So why on earth do you feel inclined to be judging a style of music based on its current condition? There's a history if you didn't notice, one that has a lot of great listening material. You don't have to be talking about every freaking new tune being released in order to be a fan and discuss the positive aspects of a style of music. ...and trance isn't exactly "hopelessly horrific" right now. ANY style of music is dominated by mostly worthless material, at least, in my opinion. ...what makes you think there should be an exception in order to warrant a better interest?

I fail to see where anyone has launched an assault on threads about older trance. I love them personally.

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Originally posted by Clovis I fail to see where anyone has launched an assault on threads about older trance. I love them personally.

Right?

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Originally posted by Clovis I fail to see where anyone has launched an assault on threads about older trance. I love them personally.

Yeah, seriously. The old trance threads always do well.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Yeah, seriously. The old trance threads always do well.

Probably 'cuz they mainly cover obvious classics like Age Of Love, What Time Is Love and We Came In Peace over and over and over again. Most people just haven't heard anything past that.

And if you happen to mention anything else, you get a bunch of confused looks and/or you get completely ignored. Quite a shit situation TA has fallen in, really.

"What do you think about Love Stimulation? Oh, so you agree it's the best. Let's hold hands and dance around in a circle!"

*insert Mikey Mike smiley*

Quite possibly.

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Originally posted by UWM Quick everyone, let's all cater to Whirloop. It's obvious that his personal music agenda is more important than ours.

Yes thats exactly what i have in mind.
Can't you see i was trying to find a good way to make something good for everyone. If people don't agree, well that's just a natural thing. After all this is a forum were people is supposed to discuss about things and i didn't expect myself to be right from the very begining anyway.
It was more about making people realize there is a way to discuss this matter on a serious level instead of making ironic, sarcastic or otherwise silly replies.

I like this mixed up version far better.. It stimulates broadening your musical horizons. Might be a hard concept for some people, though.

house never invaded trance,,,it was here way before trance. i find that i can dance more to house. its just more of a popular sound amongst edm listeners right now.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I doubt. The very reason why this is such a good forum is because it's not favouring one style above another. Don't underestimate peoples laziness. If this was a trance only forum people would listen to nothing but trance. But since its open to all types of EDM people get in touch with different styles and that in the long run is just healthy. If you want nightmare comparisons just go over at trance.nu where people don't know any DJs besides Tiesto and AvB. You'll come across people there who believes trance was found by Tiesto in Holland in the year 1999. I believe in: widening your musical horizon = good for everyone

Hm, yes that's correct. Didn't really think of that.
I also believe trance isn't discussed as much as it used to be, because it's just a shadow of its former self atm.

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Originally posted by Push2005 Hm, yes that's correct. Didn't really think of that. I also believe trance isn't discussed as much as it used to be, because it's just a shadow of its former self atm.

that's the very reason to why trance isn't discussed as it was a few years ago.

Trance is no longer properly separated from other genres. That is the main reason why everyone thinks it gets "invaded".

Trance is now a mix of Indie, House, Techno, House, Electro and ... Trance.

house is catchier, therefore is listened to more, making it the more viable EDM flavor.

When did indie and electro mix with trance? Must have missed that one.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles When did indie and electro mix with trance? Must have missed that one.

Indie: some cover versions of well known arists (Depeche mode, for example)
Electro: for example: "Djuma Soundsystem - Les Djinns (Trentemoller remix)", Trentemoller productions, Ferry Corsten - LEF (the whole album), etc...

Depeche Mode isn't indie, and Trentemoller and Ferry Corsten are nowhere close to electro.

I think what Whirloop is trying to say, is that Music Discussion is gradually being taken over by people who have moved on, who barely listen to trance anymore. They are the ones who immediately invade threads about Armin, Sean Tyas or any other popular bloke to tell everyone how bad these artists really are. I'm aware not everyone acts that way, but I did notice some people have the tendency to reply in nearly every thread that is trance related and don't have anything positive to say most of the time. There are days when I feel like these people are suffocating the forum, are trying too hard to convert the members who have just gotten into trance. Whirloop was merely pointing out that the balance should be straightened out again.

In other words: don't be an attention whore, let things go their way...

This forum introduced me to albums such as

Nathan Fake - Drowning in a Sea of Love
Ellen & Apparet - Orchestra of Bubbles
Booka Shade - Movements.

Had it been segregated into genres, I would never have found albums such as these because I wouldn't have bothered to look at anything else other than trance and techno.

So thank god TA is as diverse as it is in one section.

Like others have said, if you want a trance only section then go to Trance.nu and then come here for other stuff. I really don't see what the problem is...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Depeche Mode isn't indie, and Trentemoller and Ferry Corsten are nowhere close to electro.

Depeche Mode IS Indie and Trentemoller often plays Minimal/Electro, Ferry Corsten added Electro sound to Trance last year. You missed 2006?

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Originally posted by Ojay Depeche Mode IS Indie and Trentemoller often plays Minimal/Electro, Ferry Corsten added Electro sound to Trance last year. You missed 2006?

Depeche Mode released most of their albums on sub-labels of Warner Bros. Warner Bros. is not indie.

And no, I didn't miss all the people mislabelling stuff as "electro" and "minimal" because they had no clue about the origin and history of the terms. That's 2006 for you.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And no, I didn't miss all the people mislabelling stuff as "electro" and "minimal" because they had no clue about the origin and history of the terms.

Electro was Electro because of the synths, I know. But Electro is developing and Electro is by definition what the people think is "Electro" and not what it was historically...

I do appear to be fighting a losing battle, yes.

But perhaps in five years most of the "electro-tinged" stuff of the past couple years will have been forgotten and the term will revert back to something like its historical meaning.

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