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Originally posted by star-traveller This forum is really GAY!

So by posting so much... you aren't here for the post count are you.

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Originally posted by star-traveller yeah, my threads are kewl.

Yeah if posting some lame news clip with no comment or discussion is cool.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Yeah if posting some lame news clip with no comment or discussion is cool.

+1 an a mother focking 1/2

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Originally posted by star-traveller yeah, my threads are kewl.

They're alot better than alot of the junk some of the more, oh let's just say, "I hate all Middle Eastern people" type folks post here .

Yup, as suspected, this is quickly degrading into an insult/dig contest. Way to prove we have the collective maturity to actually discuss those "other" topics.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Yup, as suspected, this is quickly degrading into an insult/dig contest. Way to prove we have the collective maturity to actually discuss those "other" topics.

Agreed.

EDIT: But it's only a few individuals who drag it down like that and initiate it. So I wouldn't make everyone else have to deal with the consequences. So if anything, I say suspend their ass, and leave the rest alone.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Yup, as suspected, this is quickly degrading into an insult/dig contest. Way to prove we have the collective maturity to actually discuss those "other" topics.

Take this for example:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Anyways, most of the people who're complaining about this with requests for bans or whatever are the ones who never really contribute anything to PDD themselves other than trolling different threads with nonconstructive rants or pure opinion backed up by nothing factual. If you want me to name a few, I can, but I'd rather not. Most of these people starting posting on the unmoderated PDD after Lira stepped down from his position as Mod. I don't really think that's a coincidence eigther since now they know they can get away with it and annoy the crap out of people without having to argue a single point.

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Originally posted by LazFX Wow Shaolin, you just described every Thread you post...... huh, go fig.

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Now what the hell is that?

Need another example of unwarranted trolling? Take a look at this:

tranceaddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Israeli Troops Kill 10-Year-Old Palestinian Girl

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Originally posted by LazFX Democracy Now is not a trusted news source like Fox, you ushould know this already....

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I'm seriously beginning to question your intelligence now.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I know huh?? But like the Audigy7 TA stated. there are no details with the article. Just saying..... one should never take anything That web site reports. Why don't you just starting saying INFOWars.com is a trusted News Source.....

I can pull up a bunch of more examples to show who all exactly stirs shit up if anyone needs further convincing.

Want some more provocations? Here:

tranceaddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > folks, star-traveller needs one thread only!

tranceaddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > How the US is doing Iran's killing in Iraq

Actually, I woulnd't mind being mod but don't know if that cool with everyone else. I only resort to foul language when people insist on poking, going off topic with insults, obsenities, and provocations, or launch ad hominen attacks. I'd give one warning, if they don't heed it and try to actually discuss a topic as opposed to bashing perosn/people/religion/ethnic group/etc X, they're get as suspension immediately. And if they kept doing it, they'd warrant a ban for a period to give them time to reflects and reconsider how they conduct themselves.

EDIT: A detailed look at my debates/discussion with people will quickly reveal who slings mud first. I never resort to anything like that unless some throws the first punch, and that only started happening when this place was unmoderated. That's when some lurkers and other decided to start trolling and provoking instead of engaging in a civil discussion of any sort.

EDIT2: I would definetly prefer having Lira back, but if he's too busy, we can't force him. I'm fine with Occrider or Renegade beings mods, and I have asked them before. Not that I really want the responsibility, but I wouldn't mind taking it up as it's definetly better than no mod at all.

EDIT3: I'm patient enough to give multiple warning and chances before taking any action, but I won't put up with abusive post straying from the topic at hand.

EDIT4: But Neo's authority will over ride mine if he feels I'm not being impartial, that is if I'm mod in the first place ofcourse.

EDIT5: I'm also down for making Opus mod.

EDIT6: Another potential candidate, VenomX.

EDIT7: Ofcourse, in case I am made mod, I would be much more mindful or excercising self control as I'd know I have a responsibility to do so and the authority to take care of someone else not doing so themselves.

Welp, looks like Startraveller got his suspension. I think it was well-deserved for the reasons outlined previously as well as Neo's reasoning:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...651&forumid=66&

This was troll-like behavior. Everyone posts things like that from time to time without commentary, but this isn't a fucking bulletin board where people can just post hot topic stories of the day without at least adding a bit to a following debate and discussion in their thread. Clearly it was habitual for whatever reason (post count or otherwise), and for me it went beyond the mere "annoying" rationale and entered the troll zone pretty easily.

Furthermore, it was also clear that he broke the rule Neo laid out for folks glorifying death. I realize, Shaolin, that you brought up some points of similar behavior, and I think they are worth examining in their own right. I did not look at those other remarks close enough to see whether or not they were given AFTER Neo gave his warning, to which if that were the case they would be even more valid.

In any case, I think we should all be a bit more careful and be mindful of any warnings given by Mods in the future.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z EDIT5: I'm also down for making Opus mod.

I can think of a few folks who wouldn't quite be so hip on that thought , especially when my rants take their snarky, snipish turn. A little too busy right now anyway, but I appreciate the nod.

Agreed, the only thing getting on my nerves were the double standard. Now please note, I'm not implying anything about Neo here, he's definetly cool. But he's only contacted rarely, usually by people who're guilty of much the same themselves. A lack of regular moderation can lead to an unfair compromise when it comes to being fair. Again, not that Neo isn't fair, but a mod should be familiar with the various posters/trolls in order to have a more balanced and full picture of all the trolling/complaining that goes on in here. That requires regular browsing. Neo already knows that I think he's cool, so I hope I don't need to clarify that yet again lol .

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I can think of a few folks who wouldn't quite be so hip on that thought , especially when my rants take their snarky, snipish turn. A little too busy right now anyway, but I appreciate the nod.

I don't think most people would really have a problem with you being Mod man . And I trust Neo in exercising good judgment on any disagreement there.

Candidates for mod:

Lira (ofcourse)
Renegade
Occrider
MisterOpus1
VenomX
ogvh5150
George Smiley (Added)

I'll add others if I can think of them. I really think this place would be much better off with a [EDIT: regular] Mod and would save Neo alot of time and hassle.

EDIT: Update 1: George Smiley as a potiential candidate.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Actually, I woulnd't mind being mod but don't know if that cool with everyone else. I only resort to foul language when people insist on poking, going off topic with insults, obsenities, and provocations, or launch ad hominen attacks. I'd give one warning, if they don't heed it and try to actually discuss a topic as opposed to bashing perosn/people/religion/ethnic group/etc X, they're get as suspension immediately. And if they kept doing it, they'd warrant a ban for a period to give them time to reflects and reconsider how they conduct themselves. EDIT: A detailed look at my debates/discussion with people will quickly reveal who slings mud first. I never resort to anything like that unless some throws the first punch, and that only started happening when this place was unmoderated. That's when some lurkers and other decided to start trolling and provoking instead of engaging in a civil discussion of any sort.

Oh please Z!! Should I pull up instances when you attack others?? Oh yeah, you are known to go back and edit them out, why?? Wy edit them out Z?? your true colors shined through and may the gods forbid others see you for what you really are. When you throw shit in thier face that you were told in confidence, that really is showing who you are!! Get a grip!! My slingng is in NO WAY comparable to Star Travllers Posting of 100s of threads that GO NO WHERE BUT DOWN HILL!!

Its PEOPLE like you Z that has Turned PDD into a Joke, supporting people like Star Travller and Edrga. Even Cyrus has more class than these people you are so ready to critique the MOD for banning.. WHen the regular CORE room can have more civil convos than this place, you know somethings amiss.

You are just pissed cause now you do not have that crutch to lean on for your sick view of your own country. With Star Travler gone for a few days, you will have to show your true colors as a ungrateful twat that hates his country so much, that you would not think twice about kicking it in the mouth, but yet, enjoy the comforts that it provides you.

And in my post about startravller, I even suggested he be given a thread like Cyrus had, cause all of his posts were all about the same thing or on the same lines....... So Back off Burn Boy!

Oh well, at least the only thing we do have in common is the love of the shire's weed.

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Originally posted by LazFX Oh please Z!! Should I pull up instances when you attack others??

I didn't read your entire post. Please do, I'll be more than happy to show who initiates it on an unmoderated PDD.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I didn't read your entire post. Please do, I'll be more than happy to show who initiates it on an unmoderated PDD.

I have not the time or the want to go through hundreds of your posts just to see it say Last edited by shaolin_Z on allot of dates, when He was projecting his true self.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I didn't read your entire post. Please do, I'll be more than happy to show who initiates it on an unmoderated PDD.

there is the problem right there, you do not read a post if you think it will not agree with your mind set.

Like earlier when every one was dumping on you, you were ready to scream "DOUBLE STANDARD NEO" but then you corrected your self......

nice save there bud

You done slinging mud at me? Actually, I don't really care. You're only making it more obvious. Have fun.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z You done slinging mud at me? Actually, I don't really care. You're only making it more obvious. Have fun.

No Z I have never slung mud at you, in fact, you have opened my eyes to allot of stuff, but the reason I am so upset is Not every Black Man arrested is a Nelson Mandlella, do you hear what I am trying to say?? You cannot honestly sit here and post that Star_Travller didn't have it coming.. can you??

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Originally posted by LazFX No Z I have never slung mud at you, in fact, you have opened my eyes to allot of stuff, but the reason I am so upset is Not every Black Man arrested is a Nelson Mandlella, do you hear what I am trying to say?? You cannot honestly sit here and post that Star_Travller didn't have it coming.. can you??

Alot of people had it/should have it coming, I just think there should be a mod that browses PDD on a regular basis to keep tabs on everything so he/she has the resources at his/her disposal to deliver complete... justice... for lack of a better term.

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Originally posted by Dopey why not say Iranian government style? and why not spell Chinese correctly? so many questions for you, Mr. Blue

What you mean by Mr. Blue?



Yeah starting a thread with no opinion on subject is not right and could be closed.. but cesoring the vedio is wrong. That guy ergedea posted some cool links which gave insights as to how Iraqi freedom fighters operate and fight against American injustice. It gave us Iraqi side of story, how would you feel if a mod comes in and censors a CNN vedio showing Saddam in his final stages, or war footage from 'embedded' journalists..

I have said this before and I will say it again:

This is Censorship and not Moderation.

And I am Pro-No Mods, this place hasent been more mature like it is at present, finally people are realising that American 'soilders' getting killed is not something grave, hedious or tremendously sad.. its all part of the war, American killing Iraqi 'Terrorists' and Iraqi killing American 'Terrorists' is actually the same thing.

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Originally posted by Purple And I am Pro-No Mods, this place hasent been more mature like it is at present

What?

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