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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The company I work for hires a private investigation firm to do detailed investigations and verify/investigate new hires above a certain pay/position level. They contacted previous employers (all listed on resume), requested pay/tax history documents, performed credit checks, made criminal/civil legal record searches, verified education/grades with the school and more.

I thought your tax history was private data? Can companies actually find that data on private citizens?

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Originally posted by jdjd -Post-secondary schools are not allowed to give out grades to anybody other than the student, not even parents. This is why employers ask for transcripts.

This I can attest to. My mom tried to find out my grades by calling my college, they said no, they cannot because of the privacy form I signed.

lol, if a company starts doing extensive background checks before I even get the job, they better be paying me a boatload of money or else I'm just walking out. I hate being watched by some big brother all the time, or having to watch over my shoulders with everything I do. As lucrative as government jobs are, that's probably the #1 reason I'd never take one.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur lol, if a company starts doing extensive background checks before I even get the job, they better be paying me a boatload of money or else I'm just walking out. I hate being watched by some big brother all the time, or having to watch over my shoulders with everything I do. As lucrative as government jobs are, that's probably the #1 reason I'd never take one.

I agree with the first few things that you said, but you are wrong about gov't jobs. Not ALL of them are like that. I guess it depends what ministry you are working for.

1-I have been asked by every employer up to this date (3 out of 3) to bring the original of my diplomas, but no transcripts, its very rare that an employer wants to know your grades.

2-I never put any reference in my resume, those should be handed in only if asked by the employer, at my current job they were never asked before, during and after the interviews.

3-Most employers now have technical interviews (in the IT world) to see if you know what you're talking about ( to a certain extent ).

4-Govt job suck ass for young blood like us, most of the time its not a good environment for someone fresh for a start in the job market.

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Originally posted by me@t k@tie I agree with the first few things that you said, but you are wrong about gov't jobs. Not ALL of them are like that. I guess it depends what ministry you are working for.

Yeah, I think it's become pretty obvious that most of the Government operates with absolutely NO oversight...lol

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS Yeah, I think it's become pretty obvious that most of the Government operates with absolutely NO oversight...lol

Exactly. THat's why my best job ever was a government job. =)

At any position where you are licensed to trade securities there is an INTENSIVE 10 year background check. I remember my form came back to me because I messed up a month where I lived...i.e when I was 12 I moved and my form got rejected because officially I moved in June and not July. For the most part companies that deal with financial services have at least a 5 year background check on most employees regardless of licensing. While yes, references are generally not given unless you sign a waiver they can verify time, salary and position title.

Never ever lie on your resume because chances are it will come back to haunt you. We've had people lie about a degree, honours vs ordinary..they needed one more course for an honours, and a manager literally had to fight HR to have this person keep their job. Most managers wouldn't bother.

I need a job too

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Originally posted by Orko I thought your tax history was private data? Can companies actually find that data on private citizens?

Sure - they say:

If you want to work for us: We want to verify your income from your past positions. Please provide copies of your T4 for the last 3 years.

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Originally posted by jdjd I'm sorry but I don't think that they have much success

Trust me - they had success with everything (credit, criminal, previous employers, previous/current clients, education details, tax details). I received a copy of the investigation report and it was VERY detailed.

I was required to sign a consent form that allowed the investigation firm to collect this information on me. The consent form was provided to all people they contacted and gave them permission to provide the info to the investigation firm.

All of the above was a requirement for me to work for the company. If I didn't permit such an investigation I simply would have not been hired.

If you've been applying for a while and you're not getting anything, it's either cause the companies you're applying to are taking a while to get their shit together, or you're "mass-applying".

At my company, if they say oh we need new engineers, it takes them months (4-5) to actually start interviewing people.

If I could give anyone a single piece of advice, it would be to spend time on your resume and cover letter. Usually, you wanna have a good resume that applies to 90% of the positions you're applying to... BUT your cover letter should be custom tailored to each position. When I got out of school I used to apply for 50 positions/week... and I got nothing out of it. Then I started to change my cover letter on each application and mention the skills the job posting was asking for... didn't take me long to get 3-4 interviews, and out of those I got 3 offers.

I'm mentioning this cause the thread started with "I graduated from engineering and I can't find work": technical skills are good to have, but most employers want to see that you're motivated and that you can learn. They never expect you to know everything they ask for on the job posting, they'll train you when you start anyway.
Most of the guys that graduated with me had resumes full of buzz words, XML, SQL, database this and that... but that means shit. Your resume should explain HOW you used these skills to contribute to previous employers and/or school projects.

Don't lie and when you do go on an interview, don't bullshit... if you don't know something, just say "I don't know"... there's no shame in that.

Oh, and Workopolis sucks ass... Monster is much better, in my opinion.
Good luck.

OK So I have just decided to move to Toronto.

Anyone know any opening anywhere? I just need a job to do anything just to get by for now. If its a good position, maybe even stay for a bit.


Thanks

I need a job too haha...

I just graduated w/ a Specialized bilingual honours BA in Business Economics...

But I don't want to work for a god damn bank

Anyone know if any CA firms are hiring?

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Originally posted by SummerCallin I need a job too

+100000

Youtube is hiring LOL :-


http://www.google.com/support/jobs/...e.cs&lc=youtube

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Originally posted by jdjd Very good advice. No experience? LIE. Put phony projects and work experience on your resume, go with a big name company. But be sure you know your shit, you should have a solid understanding of your field, and prepare stories to tell during the interview (problems you overcame, creative solutions to problems, ways that you contributed to the company etc). And have some phony references handy (ask a few friends to pose as your previous managers, who should also sound like they know what they're talking about). As long as you get past interviews and in the door, thats all that matters. Worst case scenario, you do a crappy job and you get canned in the first few months. But by that point you have gained a few months of experience, and will be even more convincing on your next interview. Luckily I have been able to get experience during school with internships, but if I didn't I would not hesitate to use fabricated work experience. In the corporate world it is very easy to get around this problem, companies dont even verify that you have a degree nevermind verify your past work experience.

thats the only way you can get in nowdays, so i agree...

If your going to tell the truth chances are you wont get the job.

the weather network is also hiring

http://theweathernetwork.com/twn/careers/index.htm

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Originally posted by monishb thats the only way you can get in nowdays, so i agree... If your going to tell the truth chances are you wont get the job.

that...or Nepotism...

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Originally posted by riskytrader At any position where you are licensed to trade securities there is an INTENSIVE 10 year background check. I remember my form came back to me because I messed up a month where I lived...i.e when I was 12 I moved and my form got rejected because officially I moved in June and not July. For the most part companies that deal with financial services have at least a 5 year background check on most employees regardless of licensing. While yes, references are generally not given unless you sign a waiver they can verify time, salary and position title. Never ever lie on your resume because chances are it will come back to haunt you. We've had people lie about a degree, honours vs ordinary..they needed one more course for an honours, and a manager literally had to fight HR to have this person keep their job. Most managers wouldn't bother.

any advice on how to go about getting or eventually getting a trading job? or is it all connections?

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