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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! Indeed. But maybe his radioshow is hampered by its title... and subsequent pigeonholing.

Bottom line: Unlike Club Nouveau, where Tiesto claims he�s gonna play various styles and even minimal!

j/k

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Originally posted by the gamemaster OMG IM GONNA BE BANNED

Yep.

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Originally posted by paulandrews Bottom line: Unlike Club Nouveau, where Tiesto claims he�s gonna play various styles and even minimal! j/k

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Originally posted by TOR Nothing's preventing him from branching out and playing some Kompakt material.

Try hordes of fans who like what he's playing now

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince Try hordes of fans who like what he's playing now

Nah, they'd still like it. Sure, he may loose a few trancey trance fans, but most of the folks going to his shows are there because of who he is, not what he plays.

pretty much.

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Originally posted by Sykonee but most of the folks going to his shows are there because of who he is, not what he plays

That's like so untrue it's garbage.
Personally I don't like people who go see the DJ just so they can say
they saw #2 DJ or whatever, although if that gets them into music
then it's fine I guess, if it's just a random club goer who just
happens to be there when he's playing then that's fine too, there
are more of them than you like to think, but real fans are there
because of what he plays and that makes him what he is as a DJ,
I wouldn't wanna see him play something else, fuck that, I just
wouldn't go see him. And then what if he would, you win? For what?
TA, for who? Please, go listen to what you like, and let others listen to what they like.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince That's like so untrue it's garbage.

In a perfect world maybe, but don't kid yourself.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Nah, they'd still like it. Sure, he may loose a few trancey trance fans, but most of the folks going to his shows are there because of who he is, not what he plays.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince That's like so untrue it's garbage. Personally I don't like people who go see the DJ just so they can say they saw #2 DJ or whatever, although if that gets them into music then it's fine I guess, if it's just a random club goer who just happens to be there when he's playing then that's fine too, there are more of them than you like to think, but real fans are there because of what he plays and that makes him what he is as a DJ, I wouldn't wanna see him play something else, fuck that, I just wouldn't go see him. And then what if he would, you win? For what? TA, for who? Please, go listen to what you like, and let others listen to what they like.

maybe you are apart of the minority but sorry its not true and they dont go there to brag about it, your missing his point. they just go because of his big superstar dj status and the misconception that his number 2 ranking is actually a true representation of how good he really is.

I kind of agree with the topic title regarding a couple of things:

Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (Armin van Buuren)
Prooves that Armin hasn't lost it! Best material from him in a couple of years.
Armin van Buuren - Rush. Also an amazing tune.

Although I like Ti�sto's album a lot, I doubt we'll see two melodic trancers like this from him in the near future. Same goes for PvD.

As for ASOT I wouldn't say it's right to judge Armin the artist / dj from that show. It's his production and live sets which really count imo

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Originally posted by 8Wonders A DJ can only play the music that's available ... so before you start blaming Armin for how 'lackluster' you think his show has been lately, maybe you should consider the root of the 'problem' and that is the music that's coming out lately.

it's true that the current trance standard is really lacking quality. but how come armin forces him to play epic trance only? there's load of other interesting trance variations he could mix into his sets to make it more unique and standing out. he have himself to blame.

and im thinkin
ASOT became from radio show to some commertical thing IMO .

It's just you.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince Please, go listen to what you like, and let others listen to what they like.

..i don't see them stopping anyone?

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Originally posted by isoterra ..i don't see them stopping anyone?

It's the general feeling around here that "ASOT trance" is wrong to listen to, I for one want this to change. No beefing anymore.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 it's true that the current trance standard is really lacking quality. but how come armin forces him to play epic trance only? there's load of other interesting trance variations he could mix into his sets to make it more unique and standing out. he have himself to blame.

I seem to remember he played vibrasphere, and you rolled your eyes in the opposite direction.

Guess he can't have it his way either way. But then that just comes with having a show, whose image, is completely tarnished by the weekly pap he is promoting on it.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince It's the general feeling around here that "ASOT trance" is wrong to listen to, I for one want this to change. No beefing anymore.

Good one, just run along to your homey and tell him to play something decent then!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 it's true that the current trance standard is really lacking quality. but how come armin forces him to play epic trance only? there's load of other interesting trance variations he could mix into his sets to make it more unique and standing out. he have himself to blame.

But when he does venture a bit off, he gets scolded. He drops a housey tune and immediately he gets bashed.

I don't mind other genres whatsoever, but 'melodic' trance, whether that's uplifting, epic, dark, etc, is still what appeals the most to me, because it's the only type of music (melodic) that can generate an emotional response out of me. I like house, I like harder club music, I even started off with psy, listening to the likes of MWNN and AP, but melodic will always be special to me... and perhaps Armin as well.

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Originally posted by 8Wonders But when he does venture a bit off, he gets scolded. He drops a housey tune and immediately he gets bashed.

you know, i automatically expected to disagree with anything you said regarding this subject... but this is rather true. the amount of househeads who seem to want to burn the likes likes of armin/tiesto at the stake whenever they *gasp* play a tune that originated in the house/minimal/whatever scene as opposed to the trance scene... one would think they're diversifying but no, apparently they're just 'trying to be cool'


(this doesn't mean i'm defending armin in the slightest)

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Originally posted by isoterra you know, i automatically expected to disagree with anything you said regarding this subject... but this is rather true. the amount of househeads who seem to want to burn the likes likes of armin/tiesto at the stake whenever they *gasp* play a tune that originated in the house/minimal/whatever scene as opposed to the trance scene... one would think they're diversifying but no, apparently they're just 'trying to be cool' (this doesn't mean i'm defending armin in the slightest)

But these tracks are often a question of context. I think its more of an issue of people who spend time finding those tracks and weaving them into a set in an interesting way being kind of appalled when something like Aftermath is used as an opening track, followed by fluff. The noobs on the dance floor used to the ASOT norm might by like "OMG wow armin is so diverse" but the guys who have been already hammering these tunes for the last year just shake their head. It's making good tracks sound bad.

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Originally posted by Clovis But these tracks are often a question of context. I think its more of an issue of people who spend time finding those tracks and weaving them into a set in an interesting way being kind of appalled when something like Aftermath is used as an opening track, followed by fluff. The noobs on the dance floor used to the ASOT norm might by like "OMG wow armin is so diverse" but the guys who have been already hammering these tunes for the last year just shake their head. It's making good tracks sound bad.

Exactly. I'm all for diversifying your record box. The only thing is that it all boils down to how good of a job you do. Armin opened a set with Aftermath months after it was huge and then died down, and Tiesto did the same thing with Gebrunn Gebruun months after it was hammered and then died off. They're both great tracks (well, for the dancefloor. I don't like Aftermath.) but they were used poorly in each DJ's attempt to expand their box.

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Originally posted by isoterra you know, i automatically expected to disagree with anything you said regarding this subject... but this is rather true. the amount of househeads who seem to want to burn the likes likes of armin/tiesto at the stake whenever they *gasp* play a tune that originated in the house/minimal/whatever scene as opposed to the trance scene... one would think they're diversifying but no, apparently they're just 'trying to be cool' (this doesn't mean i'm defending armin in the slightest)

you hit the nail.

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Originally posted by idoru Exactly. I'm all for diversifying your record box

Playing an epic trance track after a vocal trance track is NOT diversification.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Playing an epic trance track after a vocal trance track is NOT diversification.

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Originally posted by idoru Exactly. I'm all for diversifying your record box. The only thing is that it all boils down to how good of a job you do.

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