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release date?

guys go get a fucking time travel machine


all i hear is

FUCK I WANT TIESTO BACK IN NYANA DAYS, FUCK I WANT PVD BACK IN SEVEN WAYS DAYS, FUCK I WANT BT BACK IN IMA/ESCM DAYS



on a side note, PvD actually created 28 tracks, only a few are being selected for album release. So that should get rid of a lot of shitty tracks, but what if all tracks are shitty?

it is a good idea though for album producers to create more than they desired and just choose the best, rather than force themselves to include all they have produced

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Originally posted by movingincircles guys go get a fucking time travel machine all i hear is FUCK I WANT TIESTO BACK IN NYANA DAYS, FUCK I WANT PVD BACK IN SEVEN WAYS DAYS, FUCK I WANT BT BACK IN IMA/ESCM DAYS on a side note, PvD actually created 28 tracks, only a few are being selected for album release. So that should get rid of a lot of shitty tracks, but what if all tracks are shitty? it is a good idea though for album producers to create more than they desired and just choose the best, rather than force themselves to include all they have produced

So, we are stupid for wanting PvD to produce quality tracks?

If PvD really created 28 tracks I want to get them all and decide myself whether they are good or shit because nobody knows my preferences better than me.
But maybe they will be released as bonus downloads like some of the Reflection tracks.

omg

lots of h8 in this here thread.

I know.

And it's best to judge the album, AFTER it comes out rather than before it.

No one judged the album. There were only people saying, that they don't expect much (also pointing out why they don't expect much), but obviously there are people having problems with that.

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Originally posted by Nik Novo No one judged the album. There were only people saying, that they don't expect much (also pointing out why they don't expect much), but obviously there are people having problems with that.

exactly. some dickheads here (read Oceandrive) get upset even before the album is out because peoples expectations doesnt seem too high and I can assure you that these sheeps will get upset when its out and people rate it low ("OMFG DO IT BETTER YOURSELF!!!111")

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Originally posted by RebeL9 exactly. some dickheads here (read Oceandrive) get upset even before the album is out because peoples expectations doesnt seem too high and I can assure you that these sheeps will get upset when its out and people rate it low ("OMFG DO IT BETTER YOURSELF!!!111")

I agree with what you're saying, but pedantry alert: the plural form of "sheep" is just "sheep".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I agree with what you're saying, but pedantry alert: the plural form of "sheep" is just "sheep".

thanks, I need to take extra english classes

Why would he make any effort to make good music when he can release whatever crap he wants and fanboys will be all over it, praising it, calling it 'PVD's new sound', no matter how awful it is, and subsequently bashing anyone who has any kind of standards and calling them 'haters'. Anyone who's pessimistic about this album has very good reasons for it, based on his sub-par recent works.

All TA's (almost all anyway ) = overly opinionated big headed 'I'm way more into this music than you are' dickheads and fanboys






















I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 exactly. some dickheads here (read Oceandrive) get upset even before the album is out because peoples expectations doesnt seem too high and I can assure you that these sheeps will get upset when its out and people rate it low ("OMFG DO IT BETTER YOURSELF!!!111")

I've stopped reading TA for a while cause of entertaining threads like these. However I do remember your name time and time again in just about every tiesto, armin, pvd + anyone that sells a few thousand albums threads (omg they are so commercial)

Can I just ask why they are sheep? (thats a rhetorical question btw) - I actually know perfectly well what you meant. However, answer me this, who the hell cares if someone follows PvD like a god. Does it affect you? Is it hurting anyone? Hmm, I would think not. Now I know it's proably wrong etc etc, but, there are far worse things in this world than a fanboy.

You make it sound like we are talking something important like politics or something. You do not know everything about music, nor do I. Your opinion if a song sucks is wrong, as is mine, as is every other person on this forum.

For you see, the reason being is that its just an opinion. There is no right or wrong answer.

Now before you start having a sook taht I am a sheep, I happen to agree with you with waht you have said regarding PvD. I too, don't like his latest productions (bar connected, I love that song ) but hey, what do I know, I don't sit on TA 24/7.


It's just music mate. If you don't like it, who the hell cares? Move on, don't listen to it, don't bother reading the thread. You can move on with your life! I believe in you! Really I do.

The point is that we're all entitled to our opinions on the artist and the album, yet fanboys of the artist/album will attack people who don't agree with them. The status quo seems to be "freedom of speech, provided it's positive". If not, then an argument always breaks out. It's bullshit.

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Originally posted by lucasp_10 Does it affect you? Is it hurting anyone? Hmm, I would think not.

It actually does hurt to see someone whose work you've admired for so many years stop putting effort into his releases. And it is absolutely necessary to voice that disappointment, otherwise the artist will continue being lazy and putting out weak inspireless drivel.

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Originally posted by TOR It actually does hurt to see someone whose work you've admired for so many years stop putting effort into his releases. And it is absolutely necessary to voice that disappointment, otherwise the artist will continue being lazy and putting out weak inspireless drivel.

Yeah I can understand what you are saying. And again, I do also think that his newer songs arn't as good (in my ears).

However, How do you know PvD is being lazy? How do you know that he is putting out "weak inspireless drivel"? That was kinda my point also. Isn't it possible that it took him more effort to make Reflections than it did Out There And Back, or, Seven Ways?

Unless you are PvD, you do not know the answer to that question. Like I said, I'm not saying your wrong, but your acting as if you know absolutly everything about music.....


How much do you know about music?

Reading the new release section on TA for a few hours a day while your bored doesn't count. (There are however, some fantastic threads in the producers forum)

And again, I'm not saying I know more than you. I'm simply saying that a lot of you kids here think you know everything behind every song.

How do you even know that PvD even touched any of the songs on Out There And Back? You don't really if you think about it. So relax and enjoy music

wouldnt it be funny if the album is actually really mindblowing? lol, damn i would have to eat my words so bad.

*sigh* too bad i dont really believe that.

great CD review at all

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Originally posted by lucasp_10 However, How do you know PvD is being lazy? How do you know that he is putting out "weak inspireless drivel"? That was kinda my point also. Isn't it possible that it took him more effort to make Reflections than it did Out There And Back, or, Seven Ways?

It may have taken him more effort production wise, as technical standards become higher by the day, but his latest releases hardly sound intelligent musically.

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Originally posted by lucasp_10 How much do you know about music?

Are you saying one shouldn't comment unless he or she can produce something better? We all know how valid that argument is.


And yes, I'm a producer myself, so I'm aware of everything involved in the production process.

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Originally posted by woscar99 So, we are stupid for wanting PvD to produce quality tracks?

stupid for asking for the past to come back again

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Originally posted by TOR It may have taken him more effort production wise, as technical standards become higher by the day, but his latest releases hardly sound intelligent musically. Are you saying one shouldn't comment unless he or she can produce something better? We all know how valid that argument is. And yes, I'm a producer myself, so I'm aware of everything involved in the production process.

I think you are missing the point of what I was saying. Anyone can make generic music, (whether it be good or bad) as long as you sit there in front of your program you downloaded off P2P, anoone can do it. Again, I'm not saying that I am any better than you at producing (in fact I think I am quite bad), but I really think you missed my point completely.

Why doesn't it sound "more intelligent"?

If you want intelligent music, your listening to the wrong genre. Go lsiten to classical music if you want intelligent. I'm sorry but thats the truth. Classical music is miles ahead of dance int erms of music theory (and most other forms of music). However, thats OK, because dance music is about the dance floor IMO, and it does a dman good job of it.

Who gives a shit, as long as there are people dancing, and have a smile on their face, isnt taht all that really matters?

But botttom line, its Paul van Dyk's music, and he can do what the fuck he wants with it. If you don't liek it, stiff shit. Listen to something else. And again, you don't like it? That's OK, but I can't stand when people here think they know how hard someone works to make song. Like I said in another post in this thread,I much prefer his older songs. However, that's just my taste, I don't go on about how stupid someone is just cause they like pvd's new songs.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 exactly. some dickheads here (read Oceandrive) get upset even before the album is out because peoples expectations doesnt seem too high and I can assure you that these sheeps will get upset when its out and people rate it low ("OMFG DO IT BETTER YOURSELF!!!111")

Or they get upset over knob-jockeys like yourself; self-rightous, obnoxious, pompus, poor grammar and punctuation and a general lack of being able to accept criticism or disagreement.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Or they get upset over knob-jockeys like yourself; self-rightous, obnoxious, pompus, poor grammar and punctuation and a general lack of being able to accept criticism or disagreement.

your criticism isn't valid since 1. english is neither my first or second language. 2. I find it funny that you are the one accusing me of not being able to accept criticism since you and your other PvD friends were the one to get upset in the first place because I didn't express any excitement for the comming album.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 your criticism isn't valid since 1. english is neither my first or second language. 2. I find it funny that you are the one accusing me of not being able to accept criticism since you and your other PvD friends were the one to get upset in the first place because I didn't express any excitement for the comming album.

Wrong, again. I just find it mildly irritating how you can slate (or praise) an album that you haven't even heard.

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