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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J In the UK, going clubbing is regarded as a good way to pull with the opposite sex. Which is the complete opposite of being regarded as a gay activity.

Bingo. Usually when i take more than 3 or 4 pills my dick is about as useful as an ice cream lolly though. So i'd rather try and pull in a bar. But J raises a good point here.

actually ive come across a situation like this one, because of the total ignorance of the idiot who asked me if i was gay because i listened to "techno". Some people can be so ignorant, and no im not gay I have two kids.

Before i go any further, just to answer the main question of this thread, no I'm not gay, I'm a homophobe.

Continuing...


Seen from a different angle:

1. Some drugs do make a small % of straight people feel somewhat gay-ish, true, the intensity in which this happens differs from person to person. But important here is not to assosciate drugs with trance or any electronic type of music.
2. Music is music, and it *usually(under normal circumstances)* does not affect chemicals in our body as much as drugs.
3. Because many trance clubs/parties have a higher concentration of people taking drugs together in one place than elsewhere, it doesn't mean that these people are all gay.
4. And here's a question; why do the majority of clubs/discos, especially gay clubs play trance; is because trance somewhat brings people closer together in the trance(spiritual) way, and in such places people take drugs in addition - to heighten that feeling of feeling united even more + because drugs for some people make them more horny. [(why is this- probably for most people is because of the perfect harmonisation of being in trance and having a physical tendency of touching someone/something)- ie. for some this defines to: making love]

It's very ludicrous to say that trance music is for gay people, the same goes for people who take drugs, people who eat apples, people who own a BMW, ........, even for those boys who play with a barbie doll - does that mean they're gay? emm no! but that last one is bloody weird! (in my opinion) ....just call it some mistery of life...

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even for those boys who play with a barbie doll - does that mean they're gay? emm no! but that last one is bloody weird! (in my opinion) ....just call it some mistery of life...

Think about it this way: He's getting to know the female autonomy, how bad could that be?

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Originally posted by Cobalt I'm open about it if asked, but I don't make a point of mentioning it on a music forum. It would be like constantly commenting on my hair color.

Uh, I don't either, at least not in "music discussion."

Listening to "techno" doesn't make you gay. Ultra records and other whore labels are repeatedly reinforcing that by slapping on sowhority looking off-white chicks on the cover of every "Ibiza Drugs & Boobs Trance" CD compilation they put out.

Re: Are you gay (this is not meant to offend, completely legit question).

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Originally posted by DJXJ My friends girlfriend and others I have come into contact with always think I am being "gay" or commenting that techno is only for gay men. I know this can often hold true, but for the hell of it I wanted to create this poll just to see. No offense is intended and I have nothing against anyone that is homosexual, I just want to see the numbers. Thanks

No, I think if you want to, you can have the right to hate gay people because you got stereotyped for listening to "techno." It's the really annoying, fugly, nelly, flaming, swamp-creature-looking, stereotypical, aged f@gs that cling onto "techno" to keep their identity. Worse yet, they pair "techno" with loads of porn, promiscuity, and overall health hazard lifestyle. They really have no appeal, no apparent purpose, no tact, and have this, "We're hear we're queer and we're going to ruin techno music with the same rehashed gay house mix" mentality.

Remember: there's far more gay guys out there who also hate techno for the same reason: they hate the gay stereotypes too.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Uh, I don't either, at least not in "music discussion."

Oh, I wasn't referring to you at all. I was talking about popular notions of what it means to be "open" about sexuality. At present there are expecations, both within and without the gay community, that gay men must make sexuality the center of their identity in order to be "open" about it. I've had many gay men claim I don't "accept" being gay simply because I don't pepper my conversation with sexual jokes and because I find gay "culture" to be distasteful and even destructive.

People seem to expect open gay men to mention it all over the place, and that assumption bothers me, as I'm sure it does you. Maybe that sort of "here and queer" mentality was useful in the past, when homosexuals were struggling to gain recognition as human beings, but certainly not today, where that rhetoric only further isolates them from mainstream integration.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Remember: there's far more gay guys out there who also hate techno for the same reason: they hate the gay stereotypes too.

Bingo on this.

one time i took a really really big shit.. and it felt good... like G-spot good

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Originally posted by Cobalt I've had many gay men claim I don't "accept" being gay simply because I don't pepper my conversation with sexual jokes and because I find gay "culture" to be distasteful and even destructive.

Agreed. And gay culture is distasteful and degrading. I'm (happily) rejected by gay culture on top of that because I verbally bash them all the time.

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People seem to expect open gay men to mention it all over the place, and that assumption bothers me, as I'm sure it does you.

Well, I'm a bit different. I talk about guys, like "he's hot" and "check out dat ass," but that's the same thing a str8 guy would do ("she's hot"/"check out her ass"). I don't talk about gay this or gay that.

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Maybe that sort of "here and queer" mentality was useful in the past, when homosexuals were struggling to gain recognition as human beings, but certainly not today, where that rhetoric only further isolates them from mainstream integration.

Agreed. What helps in the past doesn't necessarily benefit in today's world.

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Originally quoted by Nrg2Nfinit one time i took a really really big shit.. and it felt good... like G-spot good

See, doesn't feel so bad does it.

i think we're all missing the main issue here. the original poster is from norwich, connecticut. a boring ass borderline small city/large town close to both the connecticut coastline and the rhode island border, that seems to be important in eastern connecticut because it's the only slight population center there. that being said, who gives a fuck what him & his ignorant townie friends think? they obviously haven't met many people from many places, and it shows, so their loss.

that being said... i'm a guy who dates guys & girls (i refuse to call myself bisexual, or anything else either) but this has nothing to do with the fact that i'm into EDM. i'm into EDM because of where i grew up and everything i associate with it, and the huge passion i then developed from there. i guess being half queer is just a coincidence lol... and like jake (looks like youre back from WMC huh?? get in touch with me and let me know how it all went!! ) and cobalt, i don't mention it all over the place, i don't even like talking about it cos it's not important in the grand scheme of things (but then if you don't, you're "avoiding" it, it's a catch 22)... my good friends even forget that i'm half queer because i never talk about it, and i guess my southern accent and somewhat deep voice helps too lol... but that's another story...

oh, and gay culture blows. it's just a bunch of flamers ruining it for the rest of us.

TBH I've never heard of electronic music being associated with gay guys. Apart from pop dance like Pet shop boys and Madonna. My guess is its just the media trying to stop it from being populer and ppl getting shit scared its gonna be more populer then rock (or pop obviously).

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter TBH I've never heard of electronic music being associated with gay guys. Apart from pop dance like Pet shop boys and Madonna. My guess is its just the media trying to stop it from being populer and ppl getting shit scared its gonna be more populer then rock (or pop obviously).

i love blaming the media for things, but i never seen an headline "Watch out kids, listening to techno turns you into a fag!!!"

Hmm must be a USA only thing...

Yeah, I bet it is a USA thing too.

So the original poster took someone saying "trance is for fags" literally, and thought they were talking about homosexuals?

Wow.

That's pretty damn stupid.

Almost as much............ as leaving out the poll.

It did turn into a good point though - people can be pretty ignorant. The sooner you stop giving a damn about their ridiculous, small minded opinions, the better off you'll be.

On a plus note, every year people's attitude's seem to lessen regarding the topic, and the atmosphere in general seems less stuffy as a result.

People don't realize the bad vibes they send when they say stupid shit like "trance is gay/for fags", instead of just keeping silent, or sending good vibes. Eventually, everyone's miserable and mean and the world's a shithole (oh wait, damn!). The people who thought they were protecting their family and future from the dangerous homoseuxal scourge, instead have given their children the gift of an unstable world filled with poison and nastiness.

How's that for family values, eh?

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Originally posted by noikeee i love blaming the media for things, but i never seen an headline "Watch out kids, listening to techno turns you into a fag!!!"

It's only a matter of time...

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