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Posted by iant56 on Apr-22-2008 14:29:

I don't want to alarm anyone...but by acting like a bunch of baby's over Mr. Angry's Comments does make you sound like a bunch of 'trance crackers.'That said, I gotta give Respect to Digweed even if he might not be my thing.

(I think that gives me an inferior musical mind according to this poll)


Posted by Knox on Apr-22-2008 14:36:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole


Ok. Wow. I am having a really difficult time coming up with the words to rebuttal these comments.

First and foremost, what is a party to you?


People who can�t go to appreciate the music that is being played is what�s wrong with the electronic music scene.


quote:
a DJ's job is to make the party better with the music he or she plays


And where does that DJ get their music from to make that party better for you?

For the most part, with the exception of some of their own songs, it is usually other people�s music. Can you explain when this has changed over the years? How many DJs out there actually will play an entire set with all of their own productions? It may happen sometimes, but not very often. If there was not someone who was creating the music for the DJs to play, where would they be? If the DJ is spending all their time playing for the crowds, when will they have time to sit in a studio and produce all the tracks they need to for their sets.

As for Digweed failing to do his job, this is your opinion, but I will ask again, What does a party mean to you? John Digweed may not play the type and style of music that you enjoy listening to, and that is fair enough, everyone enjoys their own style of music. But to come right out and say that his music is pretentious, I don�t understand how this comment can be justified. If you didn�t like the party, leave. You knew John was playing, why did you come?

quote:
my buddy chucked a crumpled piece of paper at Digweed's head.


Complete disrespect.

And I�m not saying this because it�s Digweed and I am a fan, I would say this for any DJ, performer, or ANYONE for that matter that was doing the job that they were paid to do.


Posted by kwongandy on Apr-22-2008 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
lol, moron.

For starters, listen to Transitions 4. After that, revel in the fact that you are a moron.


What he said.

It's funny his favourite dj or producer is Luke Dzierzek. Since he doesn't dj worship, that eliminates favourite dj. That leaves producer. But, from his management group, Digweed is one of the djs playing his records. Without people like Diggers, and his radio show, Dzierzek would be another face in the crowd. Stop being pretentious.


Posted by slingshot on Apr-22-2008 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by kwongandy
What he said.

It's funny his favourite dj or producer is Luke Dzierzek. Since he doesn't dj worship, that eliminates favourite dj. That leaves producer. But, from his management group, Digweed is one of the djs playing his records. Without people like Diggers, and his radio show, Dzierzek would be another face in the crowd. Stop being pretentious.


lol, Digweed is a HUGE supporter of Dzierzek. He is always dropping his stuff on his radio show. Dzierzek is easily one of Digweed's most played producers. lol!


Posted by Pett on Apr-22-2008 15:09:

Smiley DJ

back on topic

never better.


Posted by angrypole on Apr-22-2008 18:14:

Behold, my arse.

wat is it that this man has done for you people that has been so great and beneficial that you need to go into 'kill mode' as soon as I shit on him a bit. Ur a bunch of dj worshippers, especially if you feel you need to personally offend me by calling me a moron because of the thoughts I expressed. fuck you


Posted by Knox on Apr-22-2008 18:56:

i never called you a moron. i just posed some simple basic questions in reply to thoughts that you expressed....


Posted by kwongandy on Apr-22-2008 19:18:

The movie Groove, and Bedrock Records might be a good start since your boy has done remixes for Digweed's label.


Posted by Orko on Apr-22-2008 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
For starters, listen to Transitions 4. After that, revel in the fact that you are a moron.


Holy moly, just listened to this, this morning and went straight out to buy it. Simply amazing.

Perfect for the dark study area that is my room.


Posted by Grinder on Apr-22-2008 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
wat is it that this man has done for you people that has been so great and beneficial that you need to go into 'kill mode' as soon as I shit on him a bit. Ur a bunch of dj worshippers, especially if you feel you need to personally offend me by calling me a moron because of the thoughts I expressed. fuck you


Take your uneducated thoughts and opinions elsewhere. Having respect and admiration towards a person is much different than worshiping someone.

Also, how old are you and your buddies that you think it's cool to throw stuff at a dj.

Now as I said before, beat it douchebag.


Posted by musicsnob_NOT on Apr-22-2008 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
DJ worship is wats wrong with the electronic music scene. People have stopped going to parties to party. Electronic music parties have become rock concerts and DJs have become rock stars. This is all well and good until you have the revelation that the guy up on the stage IS PLAYING RECORDS. Other people's music for the most part too. This is especially true when it comes to Digweed, a DJ who plays 'progressive' what does this 'progressive' mean anyway? progressive house? progressive trance, breaks, progressive R&B? when the fuck did progressive become its own monolithic genre? And then this progressive DJ / inventor of this brand new progressive music goes and says shit like 'me and Sasha are paving the way for the future' Dear John Digweed, youre PLAYING RECORDS of other people's music, you self important, stuck up progressive slag. Its the people that produce the music you play that are paving the way for your future.
And people eat this shit up, thats what puzzles me, worship a dude for playing records. And they say shit like his work is like higher art, and requires you to really pay attention to appreciate it. I'm not going to a party to pay close attention and be educated and revel in the brilliance that Digweed has in playing other people's music. I'm going to enjoy the party. And in essence, a DJ's job is to make the party better with the music he or she plays, and Digweed fails at this job, because first of all the energy he brings is inappropriate for a party. He looks like he doesnt want to be there. And his style can be accurately described as purely pretentious. I saw him in Toronto 9 days ago and I was bored off my ass until a scuffle occurred with security because my buddy chucked a crumpled piece of paper at Digweed's head.


quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
<3


Is this your other alias?


Posted by slingshot on Apr-22-2008 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
i never called you a moron. i just posed some simple basic questions in reply to thoughts that you expressed....


I did tho.


Posted by urban_legend on Apr-22-2008 22:15:

Digweed has definatly done it for me live, as for the productions not so much, am I the only person not digging Transitions 4? Dont kill me Grinder and MissK but I just dont like it.

But i give Diggers props, I would have never gone to see sasha and Diggers until a trip to Montreal convinced me to go with good friends, but wow was I blown away. Seeing him in Toronto that night solidified it, I would see Diggers any time he comes to town.


Posted by MissK on Apr-22-2008 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
wat is it that this man has done for you people that has been so great and beneficial that you need to go into 'kill mode' as soon as I shit on him a bit. Ur a bunch of dj worshippers, especially if you feel you need to personally offend me by calling me a moron because of the thoughts I expressed. fuck you


If your going to post your opinion in the abrasive way you did, You should expect 'kill mode'.

Personally offend... LOL... read your above post, would you not agree you are offending others?

And the action of throwing things at Digweed... is that not disrespect?

Go see a shrink, it may help with your anger.


Posted by angrypole on Apr-23-2008 00:28:

okey, im wrong, digweed is God 2.0. I say this not becaue I listened to transitions 4 and realised im in fact a moron and a douchebag, but because I was called those things because I dont like digweed. He must be that good that uttering anything negative about him will get such a rise out of people, i just dont see it because i probably have poor taste and must be tone deaf.


Posted by Grinder on Apr-23-2008 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
okey, im wrong, digweed is God 2.0. I say this not becaue I listened to transitions 4 and realised im in fact a moron and a douchebag, but because I was called those things because I dont like digweed. He must be that good that uttering anything negative about him will get such a rise out of people, i just dont see it because i probably have poor taste and must be tone deaf.


Not liking Digweed or Transitions 4 has nothing to do with our reaction to your comments.

Urban Legend isn't a douche because he doesn't like Transitions 4, he's a douche because he's a Leafs fan.

You come here and attack people for liking Digweed, and brag about how your buddy threw some paper at him. Grow up bro.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion in life. It's the manner in which you're expressing your opinions that makes you a douchebag.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-23-2008 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend
Digweed has definatly done it for me live, as for the productions not so much, am I the only person not digging Transitions 4? Dont kill me Grinder and MissK but I just dont like it.




I thought it was pretty "meh" as well. Didn't enjoy the vibe of it at all.


Posted by angrypole on Apr-23-2008 01:16:

i didnt exactly attack anyone, but ok, lets say i did. So since youre the judge of whos a douche and whos not, could you please share some of your guru wisdom of a all things douch to instruct me on how to be less douchey?


Posted by Knox on Apr-23-2008 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
i didnt exactly attack anyone, but ok, lets say i did. So since youre the judge of whos a douche and whos not, could you please share some of your guru wisdom of a all things douch to instruct me on how to be less douchey?


well...

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
Ur a bunch of dj worshippers, especially if you feel you need to personally offend me by calling me a moron because of the thoughts I expressed. fuck you




I am still curious as to What a party is to you?

and how a DJ is suppose to make a party better with the music he/she is playing without playing other people's songs....?


Posted by slingshot on Apr-23-2008 03:12:

What I find funny with your posts angrypole is that you attack Digweed on the basis that he is "just playing other peoples songs" and that because of this, admiration and respect for him is unwarranted. You go ahead to reference how you think he should spin at parties based on your criteria as to what a good party is. The thing that I find absolutely hilarious here, and why I referenced Transitions 4, is that the guy took 22 songs and turned them into 10. He effectively took "other people's music" and turned it into his own music. The compilation is entirely unique in the sense that you will not hear that music sound like that anywhere else. Digweed has succeed quite successfully at making something that he can call his own and that is completely unique to him in a very creative, and technically masterful way. This IS Digweed. This IS what he does. He does this stuff (although not to the same levels of intricacy and intensity) live that he did on the CD. You clearly have missed this and this is exactly why I think you are an ignorant moron for the way you came in here guns blazing. Do your homework first before you come around and make a fool out of yourself. The least you could do is express your opinion in an intelligent manner.

It's not DJ worship. It's whole hearted admiration and respect for someone who is doing shit that less than a handful of others are capable of doing.


Posted by urban_legend on Apr-23-2008 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Grinder
Not liking Digweed or Transitions 4 has nothing to do with our reaction to your comments.

Urban Legend isn't a douche because he doesn't like Transitions 4, he's a douche because he's a Leafs fan.

You come here and attack people for liking Digweed, and brag about how your buddy threw some paper at him. Grow up bro.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion in life. It's the manner in which you're expressing your opinions that makes you a douchebag.



lol.

Grinder>Digweed


Posted by angrypole on Apr-23-2008 04:21:

I think youve all misread what i tried to communicate. I did not intend to say that digweed and digweed only sucks because he plays other people's music. My meaning was that theres only so much respect and admiration one could deserve for playing recorded music which is the essence of being a dj. A DJ is notas good as a live musician in any way, which is why a great deal more 'respect and admiration' should go to guys like trentemoller, Skazi, or pendulum, who really are pushing the envelope and moving edm in a really progressive and forward thinking direction, than the glorified cd players like digweed, buuren, tiesto etc. To be fair, my statements have been rather crude and poorly structured, and I guess I owe a quarter of an apology. To answer the question of how is a dj supposed to make a party better...? The answer is in a carl cox or halliwell or zabiela (and don't shit on me because digweed supports zabiela, I know this, it doesnt make him the same dj) set, the way i see it, these guys do not take themselves too seriously and the energy they exude has a very tangible and positive effect on the feeling and motion of the crowd. I'd be happy to share more of my unqualified opinions but I can only take being called a moron and a douchebag so many times.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-23-2008 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
Skazi,

And any consideration I'd have given to your opinion just went out the window when you brought up Skazi.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Apr-23-2008 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
And any consideration I'd have given to your opinion just went out the window when you brought up Skazi.


Pendulum for me, hah.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Apr-23-2008 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by angrypole
okey, im wrong, digweed is God 2.0. I say this not becaue I listened to transitions 4 and realised im in fact a moron and a douchebag, but because I was called those things because I dont like digweed. He must be that good that uttering anything negative about him will get such a rise out of people, i just dont see it because i probably have poor taste and must be tone deaf.


can you BE any more dramatic. jesus.


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