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and fyi mark, the camera man doesn't usually say shit. The "actors" are given orders of positions and all details before. The only thing ever said during a scene is,"go,stop,hair(for when its in the way), and say the same for pretty much any body part in the way. That Seymour Buts show is misleading.Oh yeah he'll say when its money shot time too.

Ceala, if you paint a flower on a dildo and stick it up her ass...art or porn?

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak and fyi mark, the camera man doesn't usually say shit. The "actors" are given orders of positions and all details before. The only thing ever said during a scene is,"go,stop,hair(for when its in the way), and say the same for pretty much any body part in the way. That Seymour Buts show is misleading. Ceala, if you paint a flower on a dildo and stick it up her ass...art or porn?

In a lot of "Reality" porns the camera man always talk. The camera man for the bang bus videos is always laughing like a **** while the chick is getting railed. It's lame.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard as I pointed out earlier... the porn actress/actor is getting paid for the film of them having sex, not the sex itself... if there were no cameras present there would be no cheques.

and if there were no check, they wouldn't do it.

so...

they're getting paid for sex.



and seriously? All your talk about "experienced women" is gross. I'm sorry, I am NOT interested in anyone who half my town has fucked. Disgusting.

someone who has had few partners > someone who's a whore [male/female]

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Originally posted by Caela and nudity does not imply porn. it's all about the manner and context of the nudity. the female body is beautiful. if someone wants to capture that with a camera, it is certainly not always 'pornography': example example 2 however, if one throws in a suggestive element to a nudity shot, like this it becomes less artistic and more trashy...hence what 'porn' is.

well idk about the first site, but yeah, the second one (domai) is specifically created for artistic female nudes
its leaning more towards erotica i think

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Originally posted by Marc Summers In a lot of "Reality" porns the camera man always talk. The camera man for the bang bus videos is always laughing like a **** while the chick is getting railed. It's lame.

all part of the gimmick to make it look home made, hence "reality"..reality is just a marketing gimmick..trust me most of the time its the same shit as all the rest

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Originally posted by squirrelly and if there were no check, they wouldn't do it. so... they're getting paid for sex. and seriously? All your talk about "experienced women" is gross. I'm sorry, I am NOT interested in anyone who half my town has fucked. Disgusting. someone who has had few partners > someone who's a whore [male/female]

a) again, no, they're getting paid for someone being allowed to film and sell the act. It's like professional sports... a baseball player isn't paid to play baseball... he's paid so that someone else can sell the ability to watch the game. If there were no audience there would be no money.... there may or may not still be a game but there would be no payments made.

b) I'm not the one talking about experienced women.

c) you're a prude

the medium IS the message.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard The difference between pornography and art is difficult to assess and constantly in flux. Generally, erotic art is considered non-offencive to prevailing societal values, pornography is considered offencive to prevailing societal values. Which is why you can show a woman getting an eel put into her ass but you have to block out the pubic hair in Japan... apparently taking aquatic life into one's ass is alright but hair is offencive to the Japanese.

so shave off the pubic hair and its non-offensive?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel so shave off the pubic hair and its non-offensive?

You'd have to ask the Japanese... these are their standards not mine. Personally I have no problem with pubic hair... putting an eel in someone's ass on the otherhand, not my thing.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Porn stars are not fuckin' prostitutes. It's acting, you're being paid to act.

Aren't prostitutes actors too? They're the theatre actors that act for the direct audience (people who buy the prostitute for the hour) while the porn stars are the TV actors with an indirect audience (random people who buy their porno DVD).

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Originally posted by david.michael PROSTITUTE-----------------------------------------------------PORN STAR Has sex--------------------------------------------------------Has sex Gets paid------------------------------------------------------Gets paid May be acting--------------------------------------------------May be acting Uses to get what HE OR she OR IT (tranny lololololol)wants----Uses to get what HE OR she OR IT (tranny lololololol) wants

FIXED!

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Aren't prostitutes actors too? They're the theatre actors that act for the direct audience (people who buy the prostitute for the hour) while the porn stars are the TV actors with an indirect audience (random people who buy their porno DVD).

you punch someone in the face on the street: you're a criminal
you punch someone in the face in a ring: you're a prize fighter.

same thing, totally different context.

No, I still don't think they're prostitots.

And besides, porn stars get checked before every movie for any kind of STD and such and exchange results with whom ever they are going to be having sex with.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak same thing, totally different context.

Because one is legal and one is illegal right?

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak you punch someone in the face on the street: you're a criminal you punch someone in the face in a ring: you're a prize fighter. same thing, totally different context.

Difference being, you're not typically agreeing to being punched on the street. You're being attacked. In a ring, you are both agreeing to a fight for sport.

In both prostitution and pornography, all parties are fully aware and fully supportive of all skin slapping and hoe tapping.

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Originally posted by Frenchie [IGK]prostitots.[/IGK]

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Originally posted by Frenchie No, I still don't think they're prostitots. And besides, porn stars get checked before every movie for any kind of STD and such and exchange results with whom ever they are going to be having sex with.

Yes, but don't prostitutes do too? Like when you go to Vegas the nappy headed hos in those houses get checked and have cards to say they're clean, right?

I guess technically porn stars are not prostitutes although they are doing the same thing for the same reason. I mean that's like saying, "You can NOT cook for ANYONE for money, unless of course we video record it and distribute it to people who want to buy it."

With porn stars there are contracts and some women ,( I don't know about the men ), but some women have a short list of who they will sleep with and won't work with anyone but the names on that list so at least they familiarize them selves with only a short few....a ho will sleep with anyone for za moolas.

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Originally posted by david.michael Difference being, you're not typically agreeing to being punched on the street. You're being attacked. In a ring, you are both agreeing to a fight for sport. In both prostitution and pornography, all parties are fully aware and fully supportive of all skin slapping and hoe tapping.

As someone who has worked in a few different aspects of the adult industry I can tell you it isn't prostitution. There is nothing sexy to the performers...trust me. Its all an illusion while the track marks on the street walker aren't

even if you both agree to fight on the street you are still usually arrested.

It's all acting to me. You wake up, go to work, get hair/make up and wardrobe done. Go on set, read your lines over once or twice, go over what will happen and voila you star taping. It's not all glamorous fucking either. Some shots have to be taken 5, 6 times and after having to try and pop a boner 6 times in 20 minutes with doing nothing but sliding it in and out of her pussy..it's pretty dull. Hos don't have second takes.

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Originally posted by Frenchie With porn stars there are contracts and some women ,( I don't know about the men ), but some women have a short list of who they will sleep with and won't work with anyone but the names on that list so at least they familiarize them selves with only a short few....a ho will sleep with anyone for za moolas.

Some porn stars don't have a choice with whom they sleep with when they first start out in the bizz (usually the uglier ones or ones who start off in small porn companies).

yes... i belive it is a form of prostitution, even though i doubt they would fuck any random person who came up to them and asked them to.

not all "prostitutes" are the drug-addicted leather-faced scaries you see on the street corners. there are high-class escorts out there who are still "prostitutes" but cater to a different kind of folk and charge a lot more money... but they're still selling sex.

and not all porn stars are the same class of people either. some companies require major background checks and frequent STD tests and are very professional about everything. other low-rate budget films probably get away with sketchier stuff... i'm sure we've all heard stories of porn stars ending up with STDs, getting raped/harassed on set, etc...

either way, pretty fucked up career choices... but someone's gotta do it.

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Originally posted by l�cid not all "prostitutes" are the drug-addicted leather-faced scaries you see on the street corners. there are high-class escorts out there who are still "prostitutes" but cater to a different kind of folk and charge a lot more money... but they're still selling sex. and not all porn stars are the same class of people either. some companies require major background checks and frequent STD tests and are very professional about everything. other low-rate budget films probably get away with sketchier stuff... i'm sure we've all heard stories of porn stars ending up with STDs, getting raped/harassed on set, etc... either way, pretty fucked up career choices... but someone's gotta do it.

Actually, the technical reason escort services are allowed to operate is that they "charge for company"...no paying for sex...the girl "has a choice.It is this wonderful loophole that gets it categorized as something other than solicitation...solicitation is what sends you to jail.

Porn stars do get stds as nothing is full proof, but even with the low budget films...if they do not have records of age as well as test results.The film cannot be distributed and is illegal. Check closely if you ever watch porn how they always have an address with a custodian of records. There is also a blacklist for those who have gotten an std.

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Originally posted by Caela so is the only difference between prostitutes and porn actors the fact that a camera is present (or that they are doing it for show)? If so, it's kinda strange that the one that is illegal is the most private one, and the legal act is the most obvious one.

Of course it's "strange". And it's only in the USofA.

In Canada, Europe, and Australia, prostitution is legal. and even in South America

About as predictable a response as I'd expect from HardTranceProd - runs like a wristwatch.

And as far as I know, Prostitution isn't legal on the entire continent of Europe.

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