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I mix Minimal Tech-House Jungle Acid Synth-Pop Soft-core Noise-core Electro-Breaks with a hint of peach cobbler on top for some special effects.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid why such emphasis on genres? i know they are important but cant we just enjoy edm as a whole??

you know, people bitch about throwing certain music into genres but honestly, why not? it helps describe the style of music to people that don't know what it's all about. i think it's important to label genres of music, otherwise it's just "music" and people won't know what the hell you're talking about.

it's more of an elitist fad to hate on the specific name given to a genre of music than anything.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue you know, people bitch about throwing certain music into genres but honestly, why not? it helps describe the style of music to people that don't know what it's all about. i think it's important to label genres of music, otherwise it's just "music" and people won't know what the hell you're talking about. it's more of an elitist fad to hate on the specific name given to a genre of music than anything.

yes i know its important, i think i stated that in my other post, yes it is i am totally in for labeling music and keeping it from being more confusing. What i am totally against is the typical.

"omg trance is so bad"
"wtf is minimal, this shit is so boring"
"electro is for queers"
"geez house sucks"
"only people with no taste in music listen to drum n bass"

u know? i hate it! there is good stuff in everything, no need to emphasise it so much a genre. in the end of the day:

genre= good for labeling and informing
genre= bad for peoples critiques on music.

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Originally posted by RJT Actually, every artist you listed makes music that is consistently mistaken for minimal by thoughtless chuds who don't know any better.

i think its embarassing to correct people on how they describe music, it makes you look like a snobby elitist that spends too much time arguing semantics on message boards. there are tracks that cross genres and dont fully fit into one or the other, theres nothing wrong with labeling a track under a genre that it most closely falls under. its just a way to make it easier to describe a track. anyway, what genre would you say those artists most closely fall under that mobreaks listed?

edit: you remind me of this guy -> http://www.break.com/index/thats_pretty_underground.html

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Originally posted by jupiterone I mix Minimal Tech-House Jungle Acid Synth-Pop Soft-core Noise-core Electro-Breaks with a hint of peach cobbler on top for some special effects.

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Originally posted by stev�sto i think its embarassing to correct people on how they describe music, it makes you look like a snobby elitist that spends too much time arguing semantics on message boards. there are tracks that cross genres and dont fully fit into one or the other, theres nothing wrong with labeling a track under a genre that it most closely falls under. its just a way to make it easier to describe a track. anyway, what genre would you say those artists most closely fall under that mobreaks listed?

but c'mon...saying that boratto=mnml is just going too far.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Now i am officially, officially not the biggest noob in the forum, someone congratulate me please

Congrats Congrats

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Originally posted by stev�sto i think its embarassing to correct people on how they describe music, it makes you look like a snobby elitist that spends too much time arguing semantics on message boards. there are tracks that cross genres and dont fully fit into one or the other, theres nothing wrong with labeling a track under a genre that it most closely falls under. its just a way to make it easier to describe a track. anyway, what genre would you say those artists most closely fall under that mobreaks listed? edit: you remind me of this guy -> http://www.break.com/index/thats_pr...nderground.html

Tech-House or techno would certainly be more approriate in most cases, and before you go accusing me of being some musical "snob" or "eltist," maybe you should understand that terms have meaning beyond the "description du jour," and that the entire "minimal" movement in EDM is a horrible misnomer.

It's not being elitist, it's being correct.

THANK YOU

Semantics Whores!

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Originally posted by MoBreakz You semantics whores sound real fuckin dumb.

Yes, because using words properly is fucking wack, yo!

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Originally posted by RJT Yes, because using words properly is fucking wack, yo!

WORD!! *gangster pose*

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Originally posted by RJT Yes, because using words properly is fucking wack, yo!

Steve powned you though. You do realise you come off as a Minimal Elitest Queen Mary right? I mean if those aritsts i named dont create any minimal at all, you wouldnt sound so dumb about your nitpicking.

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Originally posted by MoBreakz Steve powned you though. You do realise you come off as a Minimal Elitest Queen Mary right? I mean if those aritsts i named dont create any minimal at all, you wouldnt sound so dumb about your nitpicking.

Sure. Whatever you say

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Originally posted by RJT Tech-House or techno would certainly be more approriate in most cases, and before you go accusing me of being some musical "snob" or "eltist," maybe you should understand that terms have meaning beyond the "description du jour," and that the entire "minimal" movement in EDM is a horrible misnomer. It's not being elitist, it's being correct.

tech-house being more appropriate is your opinion, so you are correcting people based on your opinion. in my opinion, tech-house is a better genre to put what is mostly called electro under, but im not going to call people thoughtless chuds for calling it electro, that would make me an elitist know-it-all who just looks for oppurtunities to correct people and make me look smart infront of my internet peers.

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Originally posted by stev�sto tech-house being more appropriate is your opinion, so you are correcting people based on your opinion. in my opinion, tech-house is a better genre to put what is mostly called electro under, but im not going to call people thoughtless chuds for calling it electro, that would make me an elitist know-it-all who just looks for oppurtunities to correct people and make me look smart infront of my internet peers.

There is nothing about this debate that is opinion.

"Minimal" as it's popularly used here is a misnomer.

I'm sorry this is apparently so upsetting to you.

hey today isnt monday, why is everyone acting like they got a dick up their asses??

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Originally posted by wotyzoid hey today isnt monday, why is everyone acting like they got a dick up their asses??

i dont know...why did you walk into this thread with one up urs?

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Originally posted by MoBreakz i dont know...why did you walk into this thread with one up urs?

............WOW

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Originally posted by RJT There is nothing about this debate that is opinion. "Minimal" as it's popularly used here is a misnomer. I'm sorry this is apparently so upsetting to you.

Can you give us a run down on what minimal is then Mr. Websters Dicktionary of Minimal Music.
This thread is about to deliver folks....just hang in a lil longer.

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Originally posted by MoBreakz Can you give us a run down on what minimal is then Mr. Websters Dicktionary of Minimal Music. This thread is about to deliver folks....just hang in a lil longer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_music

/most predictable post in the world.

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Originally posted by RJT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_music /most predictable post in the world.

/thread

basic channel & daniel bell are two artists i can think of that exclusively make minimal techno. you'd find more similiarities between any random progressive house track and "minimal" track than you would between a minimal techno track and a "minimal" track, especially one made by the artists you've mentioned.

the music you're calling minimal is the music that we called prog 2-3 years ago.

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Originally posted by Psy-T basic channel & daniel bell are two artists i can think of that exclusively make minimal techno. you'd find more similiarities between any random progressive house track and "minimal" track than you would between a minimal techno track and a "minimal" track, especially one made by the artists you've mentioned. the music you're calling minimal is the music that we called prog 2-3 years ago.

The thread already ended with the wikipedia of Minimal music set forth.

For fuck's sake, stop using "minimal" like it is a new genre that popped up when people started bumming Richie Hawtin and his new haircut.

"Minimal" is a prefix, an approach to creating music where you aspire to achieve maximum impact from a minimum of elements. Therefore, any type of music whatsoever can be minimal. "Minimal" is not an all-purpose denominator to be used for lumping in every techno or tech house tune that tries to mimic what Richie Hawtin is putting in his sets and signing to his label these days.

Techno as a genre has been moving towards a more minimal approach in recent years, (as can be seen in the sets of people like Adam Beyer or Marco Carola), but people like Robert Hood and Mike Ink have been pioneering this approach to techno for more than 10 years, way before the cocaine massive started inhabiting techno nights, and way before DJs and producers started to water sets and productions down to a mindnumbingly boring heap of grey matter to accomodate them and their favouring of poseur habits at the bar instead of dancing.

And finally, if you're gonna resort to pompous rhetoric like "true minimal" (techno, obviously), at least name check some releases that actually broke some ground, like this one, this one or this one.

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