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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I agree, but do it for 20 odd years and you are bound to have a night here and there where it just seems like any job and you would rather be at home or out with your mates.

Yeah, I've done quite a few house parties where, although I enjoyed it for the best part, I wished I could leave the decks alone for an hour and go and socialise... I think I'd call that the early stages of what you're talking about

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I agree, but do it for 20 odd years and you are bound to have a night here and there where it just seems like any job and you would rather be at home or out with your mates. Beatflux: GHB is like a liquid version of mdma that is consumed with beverages, it also happens to be used in date rape crimes as it can have similar effects to rohypnol. Both variations are evil and have no place in the dance music industry (Not suggesting there is a place for any illeagal substance, but some have played a key part in it's development, like it or not). Turns you into a comatose zombie and you will most likely be ejected by the bouncers or even taken away in an ambulance. GHB is evil kids, so stay well away. Cheers Nem

GHB is one of the most common drugs found in Toronto and Montreal. It is NOT liquid MDMA.

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gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid (4-hydroxybutanoic acid, C4H8O3), commonly abbreviated GHB, is a therapeutic drug, an illegal drug in multiple countries,[1] and a naturally occurring substance found in the central nervous system, wine, beef, small citrus fruits and almost all other living creatures in small amounts. In a medical setting, GHB is used as a general anesthetic, to treat conditions such as insomnia, clinical depression, narcolepsy, and alcoholism, and to improve athletic performance. It is also used illegally under the street names Juice or Liquid Ecstasy, either as an intoxicant, or as a date rape drug. As well, the human body's cells naturally produce GHB. GHB is structurally related to the ketone body beta-hydroxybutyrate. As a drug it is used most commonly in the form of a salt. [2] GHB is also produced as a result of fermentation and so is found in small quantities in some beers and wines.

But,

GHB is evil kids, so stay well away.

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Originally posted by Transfusion Doing a Jesus pose must be a part of each dj's set.

this goes without saying

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Originally posted by Allied Nations GHB is one of the most common drugs found in Toronto and Montreal. It is NOT liquid MDMA. gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid (4-hydroxybutanoic acid, C4H8O3), commonly abbreviated GHB, is a therapeutic drug, an illegal drug in multiple countries,[1] and a naturally occurring substance found in the central nervous system, wine, beef, small citrus fruits and almost all other living creatures in small amounts. In a medical setting, GHB is used as a general anesthetic, to treat conditions such as insomnia, clinical depression, narcolepsy, and alcoholism, and to improve athletic performance. It is also used illegally under the street names Juice or Liquid Ecstasy, either as an intoxicant, or as a date rape drug. As well, the human body's cells naturally produce GHB. GHB is structurally related to the ketone body beta-hydroxybutyrate. As a drug it is used most commonly in the form of a salt. [2] GHB is also produced as a result of fermentation and so is found in small quantities in some beers and wines. But, GHB is evil kids, so stay well away.

Bleeding heck!!!
I have only ever heard it described as such, but what you are describing makes more sense and would explain the reaction that people get a lot better. Good info!

Still don't understand the buzz people get from it, and why they would want to go to a club to get into that state. Waste of a good night out if you ask me. It sadens me that it's so common though as it does give this industry a bad name.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Allied Nations GHB is one of the most common drugs found in Toronto and Montreal. It is NOT liquid MDMA.

No, but it is referred to as liquid ecstacy sometimes which I think is where the statement came from.

Horrible stuff, it kills you. Luckily its use in the UK is relatively limited but it still happens.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I agree, but do it for 20 odd years and you are bound to have a night here and there where it just seems like any job and you would rather be at home or out with your mates. Beatflux: GHB is like a liquid version of mdma that is consumed with beverages, it also happens to be used in date rape crimes as it can have similar effects to rohypnol. Both variations are evil and have no place in the dance music industry (Not suggesting there is a place for any illeagal substance, but some have played a key part in it's development, like it or not). Turns you into a comatose zombie and you will most likely be ejected by the bouncers or even taken away in an ambulance. GHB is evil kids, so stay well away. Cheers Nem

sorry i really disagree there, some of my best nights have been on G, if you get the right dose its 100 times better an being drunk and legal (GBL here, which is pretty much identical to GHB). Its nothing like MDMA, just like a clear headed drunkeness. you take 4ml you will be out cold for 4 hours, but 1.5mls is brilliant. Mixing on a G high is amazing.

i always take some when i go out clubbing, pop 2.1mls before you go in then keep it topped up with beer i havent raped anyone (shock horror)

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Originally posted by Smiley sorry i really disagree there, some of my best nights have been on G, if you get the right dose its 100 times better an being drunk and legal (GBL here, which is pretty much identical to GHB). Its nothing like MDMA, just like a clear headed drunkeness. you take 4ml you will be out cold for 4 hours, but 1.5mls is brilliant. Mixing on a G high is amazing. i always take some when i go out clubbing, pop 2.1mls before you go in then keep it topped up with beer i havent raped anyone (shock horror)

I didn't at any time suggest that people who take it are rapists. But people with bad intentions use it to spike the drinks of unsuspecting individuals, making them very compliant or unconcious. This was used as a reference to suggest the state that some people might end up in, nothing more.

Sure, if you take it responsibly I'm sure it must have something that attracts people.

But there was a stage when a lot of clubs simply had people passed out in sofas and other random places, which in turn was giving clubbing a really bad name, because basically a room with loud music that has people passed out in looks pretty shit and does kill the atmosphere.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I didn't at any time suggest that people who take it are rapists. But people with bad intentions use it to spike the drinks of unsuspecting individuals, making them very compliant or unconcious. This was used as a reference to suggest the state that some people might end up in, nothing more. Sure, if you take it responsibly I'm sure it must have something that attracts people. But there was a stage when a lot of clubs simply had people passed out in sofas and other random places, which in turn was giving clubbing a really bad name, because basically a room with loud music that has people passed out in looks pretty shit and does kill the atmosphere. Cheers Nem

fair point there, you do have to be careful with the stuff, if you for one minute think you know it, it kicks you in the bollocks! ive never purposely overdone it, but i've been close and it was scary

GBL is a lot harder to spike drinks with, its near damn impossible to mask the taste in any drink.

I've never heard of GHB in the states. Thanks for the info!

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Originally posted by Stu Cox No, but it is referred to as liquid ecstacy sometimes which I think is where the statement came from. Horrible stuff, it kills you. Luckily its use in the UK is relatively limited but it still happens.

Actually it really doesn't kill you at all... unless you are mixing it with copious amounts of booze or it is a bad batch and is not GHB. GHB by itself, not spiked isn't bad for you at all in regulardoses, in some cases even good for you. Being that G is so new to the UK you guys have probably developed some pre-emptive notions on what G is and what it can and can't do but over in Canada, G has apparently been a part of the club scene for years...


And in Montreal, people have learned how to party through wipeouts and crashes. It's the G-tards who go all night here... along with the speed heads!

Ahh the Montreal nightlife scene... I don't even want to get into how drug riddled our club scene (as a whole, EDM or not) really is, not that I mind really, the parties are usually crazier and it's the fucked up ones who dance the most

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Actually it really doesn't kill you at all... unless you are mixing it with copious amounts of booze or it is a bad batch and is not GHB. GHB by itself, not spiked isn't bad for you at all in regulardoses, in some cases even good for you. Being that G is so new to the UK you guys have probably developed some pre-emptive notions on what G is and what it can and can't do but over in Canada, G has apparently been a part of the club scene for years... And in Montreal, people have learned how to party through wipeouts and crashes. It's the G-tards who go all night here... along with the speed heads! Ahh the Montreal nightlife scene... I don't even want to get into how drug riddled our club scene (as a whole, EDM or not) really is, not that I mind really, the parties are usually crazier and it's the fucked up ones who dance the most

Nah, GHB has been around for Donkey's years here. Not to mention that the Brittish are some of the biggest cainers in the world. The majority of people I see week in week out are absolutely off their tits. And it's been this way for about 20 odd years.

Cheers
Nem

This is my opinion on this subject. Or what I have learned. Crowd involvement and interaction is key. Along show you own love as well. Have fun that what music and dancing is for. When or if my time in spotlight ever happens i have ideas what I'm going to do to entertain the crowd. Because if the crowd loves you. You'll always be booked and never have to worry about gigs. mixing skills is a lost art i feel. i remember watching djs at raves in 90's they were mixing their asses off. Today's dj not as involved i feel. some are very some you can't see any emotion on their face. technology i embrace it i feel the more unique a set can get the better, wither it be a laptop or efx machine, I'm converting to digital from vinyl as we speak and use a mac book pro as well. the more i can carry with me to a gig the better i feel. Make the crowd's night one they never forget.

DJ MHB

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Originally posted by xenoaxe I dont know if anyone else has mentioned this earlier, but i think the most important thing about DJing is ::drum roll:: Having Fun.

Best post so far...

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Originally posted by xenoaxe I dont know if anyone else has mentioned this earlier, but i think the most important thing about DJing is ::drum roll:: Having Fun.

Best post so far...

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Originally posted by xenoaxe I dont know if anyone else has mentioned this earlier, but i think the most important thing about DJing is ::drum roll:: Having Fun.

Best post so far...

For me it always comes down to track selection and reading the mood of the night. Technical skill is required up to a point, but after you get to a decent enough skill level everything above that is just icing on the cake. There's a breaks DJ here who won the local competition last year. He's extremely talented technically, but I just can't stand to listen to him anymore. I used to enjoy his sets, but unfortunately he tends to play a lot of the same shit week in-week out. It gets old.

pleasing the crowd...technically you can have poor track selection and still please a crowd...plus really really talented dj's who can scratch and do all these tricks can get booed off (and i have seen it).

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Luckily its use in the UK is relatively limited but it still happens.

unfortunately not so!

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Originally posted by Spoonz unfortunately not so!

I think it is more so than a lot of other drugs and than in a lot of other places.

Re: Importance in DJ'ing

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Originally posted by R.j. So, as a DJ, what do you feel is the most important aspect of it all? - pleasing the crowd? - smooth mixing? - track selection? - advanced dj'ing (looping, effects, etc.)? - anything else I obviously missed I don't if this makes any sense, but if it did, I'd have to choose 'pleasing the crowd' first and fore-most.

Pleasing the crowd is the most important thing of your job!

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