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Posted by Spoonz on Jul-01-2007 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Aye, I think you are right.

I think what probably offends people here is that he is prettending he is something he is not i.e. a live DJ.
But as you correctly pointed out, the crowd in some of those clips seems to be going mad, especially when blue monday comes on.

People seem to be enjoying themselves through the music and watching his antics.
I have been playing around with this one for a while as I wasn't sure how I felt about it.

I have arrived at the conclusion that the minute we start telling people how to enjoy themselves is the moment that we disapear up our own arse and ultimately loose the interest of the clubbers. Which so often happens in the DJ world.

To the haters...
Some stated that he is doing what many wish they could i.e. have a club eating out of the palm of your hand. There is no use in getting bitter and twisted about it, with that mentality you will never get to where you want to.

Stop fussing so much about what other people are doing and focus on your own shit!

Nem

tell me, do u not find it the slightest bit frustrating that u have to make an effort to rock the crowd, then u see this "past his sell by date" biggot rocking the crowd on prerecorded mixes.

yep, ok. maybe he did the mixes himself (at least, i hope so) but he obviously doubts his skills as a dj to not do it all live! this is not "kool"

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-02-2007 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Spoonz
tell me, do u not find it the slightest bit frustrating that u have to make an effort to rock the crowd, then u see this "past his sell by date" biggot rocking the crowd on prerecorded mixes.

yep, ok. maybe he did the mixes himself (at least, i hope so) but he obviously doubts his skills as a dj to not do it all live! this is not "kool"

Not really, I love what I do and have been fortunate enough to see people go for it to the power of 10 during sets to real DJing, still interacted and had a really good time.
I see so called named DJs play sets they have been playing for the last month or so and with less emotion and enthusiasm. Amounts to almost the same thing for me.

I think I have probably seen too many shit DJs in my years to really be too upset by this.

Probably what updsets a lot of people is that this guy doesn't have the skills and they in turn feel that they they have earned the right to be where he is. Understandably so, he hasn't had to take all the shit that the DJ business can throw at you and experienced all the rejection, and probably doesn't have to pay for vinyl, CDs or downloads.

I think I'm at an age now where it doesn't bother me but probably should.
Still haven't totally made up my mind, but me worrying about it is going to make absolutely zero difference to those who go and enjoy his performances and nothing for his will to stop being a tool. There for I have decided that it doesn't bother me because I know I am better than him. Will happily put my money where my mouth is too.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by seanjj on Jul-02-2007 19:29:

whoz says he dont have skills... look at the way hez moving with the muzik...even here ppl have doubt whether is live or prerecorded...how wouuld those there enjoyng there drink/smokes etc would notice that... n even its a prerecord. pals letme tell wat i feel..he had a bad stomach that day.. n he cant leave the both...watch the vdeo again!

Posted by Jarvmeister on Jul-02-2007 20:52:

Posted by blitzz on Jul-02-2007 21:26:

that sux and blows... damn

Posted by aLviNx80 on Jul-03-2007 01:58:

WTF????? PUhahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahah!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! b

Posted by nousplacidus on Jul-03-2007 05:10:

If you've ever seen a video of a muppet holding onto something and shaking about, or moving about whilst its hands are securely taped to that object, you'll know why I spent 20 minutes finding the following.

TAKE THE TIME TO GO TO THE MIDDLE OF THIS VIDEO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGeCpj6TJk

He moves so much like the DJ from the op's video its rediculous.

And the music is better.

Posted by stefanoc on Jul-03-2007 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Whip_lash
Well its kinda obvious why he pre-records his sets... if he didnt he wouldnt have enough time to pull off his crazy dance moves and act like a fool up there..

i totally agree. its either u dont do ur homework and ur obligated to work night time, or else do ur homework and dance all night long. plus u can do the jesus pose all night long and go in the guiness record for holding a 6 hour jesus pose straight.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-03-2007 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by seanjj
whoz says he dont have skills... look at the way hez moving with the muzik...even here ppl have doubt whether is live or prerecorded...how wouuld those there enjoyng there drink/smokes etc would notice that... n even its a prerecord. pals letme tell wat i feel..he had a bad stomach that day.. n he cant leave the both...watch the vdeo again!

Check the first video again, and then check the part about 1:15 into the vid. If that's not faking it then I am a Jehova's witness on acid!!!
All that vid proves is that they guys has a sense of rythm, which is bloody lucky considering he is a bassist, understands music structure because let's face it, he does know roughly when a phrase is ending and another is about to start. You don't see him touch the the decks at any point other than the one where he accidentally switches the sound off totally.

Man I have wasted too much time on this thread...

Each to their own.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by richg101 on Jul-04-2007 12:21:

who the hell really cares? i mean shouldnt you be dancing and enjoying yourself on a night out? - NOT being a geek and standing over the dj's shoulder all night. it doesnt take a genius to beatmatch and if making a pre recorded set means the set is perfect then why not? big name dj's shouldnt have to justify mixing skills to a load of trainspotters.

Posted by DJ Patski on Jul-04-2007 12:32:

I wanna kick him in the crotch for the way he is jumping around and DJing, I don't give two shits whether it's pre-recorded or not.

Posted by Sanguis Mortuum on Jul-04-2007 15:47:

I honestly cant believe there are people in this thread trying to justify playing a pre-recorded mix

Posted by Jarvmeister on Jul-04-2007 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
who the hell really cares? i mean shouldn't you be dancing and enjoying yourself on a night out? - NOT being a geek and standing over the djs shoulder all night. it doesn't take a genius to beatmatch and if making a pre recorded set means the set is perfect then why not? big name djs shouldn't have to justify mixing skills to a load of trainspotters.

Seriously.... I'm embarrassed to be from the same country as you with a bullshit statement like this that demonstrates a total lack of understanding and appreciation for the hard work a real DJ puts in.

Shame on you!

Posted by stefanoc on Jul-04-2007 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
I honestly cant believe there are people in this thread trying to justify playing a pre-recorded mix

exactly. if u want to play a prerecorded set, then u dont deserve to be on the stage playing in the first place. whats the point of it if i can do the same thing in my car?

Posted by stefanoc on Jul-04-2007 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
who the hell really cares? i mean shouldnt you be dancing and enjoying yourself on a night out? - NOT being a geek and standing over the dj's shoulder all night. it doesnt take a genius to beatmatch and if making a pre recorded set means the set is perfect then why not? big name dj's shouldnt have to justify mixing skills to a load of trainspotters.

if it doesnt take a genius to beatmatch, then why doesnt he do so?

Posted by nousplacidus on Jul-04-2007 20:42:

Posted by Spoonz on Jul-04-2007 20:48:

if u go to see someone play live, ie: pvd, u expect them to mix live... i for one would never pay to go see someone live if i knew they were playing a pre-recorded set.

takes the piss

Posted by Timski on Jul-05-2007 06:10:

If I want to listen to a pre-recorded mix I will stay home...

I must admit I loved the "smash my head into the wall" EQ move.

Posted by richg101 on Jul-05-2007 07:05:

my point is that really it aint that bigger deal to hear how the dj mixes. i mean ableton mixers dont even beatmatch! i wouldnt know how to fake a mix well. id find it easier to just do the mix. but what if his ears are packing in and he cant mix in loud places anymore? should a dj stop playing awsome tunes?

Posted by Sanguis Mortuum on Jul-05-2007 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
my point is that really it aint that bigger deal to hear how the dj mixes. i mean ableton mixers dont even beatmatch! i wouldnt know how to fake a mix well. id find it easier to just do the mix. but what if his ears are packing in and he cant mix in loud places anymore? should a dj stop playing awsome tunes?

But he's not even deciding at the time which tunes to play! How can he read the crowd and decide which tune will be best to play next when the whole mix is prerecorded!

Pre-pitching or Ableton is one thing, it removes the beatmatching, but beatmatching is purely technical, it still allows you to choose which record should be next, which is the most important part of DJing. Playing an entirely premixed set though he cant even choose which tune is next, he's completely removed any need for the slightest amount of skill whatsoever. And all that prancing around pretending to mix? He might as well just press play on the CD then go and sit at the bar for the next hour...

He's making a complete mockery of everything it means to be a DJ...

Posted by Jarvmeister on Jul-05-2007 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
He's making a complete mockery of everything it means to be a DJ...

100% the point. Not sure why some people are disagreeing with this.

Jarv

Posted by Omega_M on Jul-05-2007 21:50:

anybody got a similar clip for some other DJ ? A big name, maybe ?

Posted by Inny on Jul-05-2007 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
anybody got a similar clip for some other DJ ? A big name, maybe ?

I've seen clips of Eddie Halliwell going completely crazy on the decks, but he's actually doing lots of stuff :P

Posted by Spoonz on Jul-06-2007 07:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Inny
I've seen clips of Eddie Halliwell going completely crazy on the decks, but he's actually doing lots of stuff :P

here's one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlkBXqG5Uio

jokes! - fuckin love the energy from this guy! lol

Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-06-2007 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Spoonz
here's one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlkBXqG5Uio

jokes! - fuckin love the energy from this guy! lol

Carl Cox is THE man!!!

With regards to the Peter Hook thing, I don't think that people on the whole are defending him as such, I just think that some people get less offended by it than others.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sure how HE can live with the idea more than anything, but I'm not going to loose sleep over it.

Guys like this will come and go, just like young DJs who think they are the mutts nuts will come and go. Very few of us will ever go on to make much of an impression on anything (sad but true). But we have to remain strong in the belief that we can or we stand no chance.

The most inspirational people I have met in my life, DJs or otherwise have all had an outlook where they focus on what they are doing and not too much on what others are up to, good or bad.

Essentially that's the only difference, don't think that anyone thinks what he is doing is good.

Is he damaging DJing? Probably not, but the jury is still out on that one...

Cheers
Nem

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