can you return to the "plur" after you've become jaded

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Posted by pwnage1 on Dec-30-2008 07:58:

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter
I don't think it'll ever happen with me with psy/ambient, but then I just keep finding new good stuff.
+1

Posted by Domesticated on Dec-30-2008 08:18:

My friends say to me all the time "do you like ANYTHING?"

I've gotten more and more picky over the years. The knowledge that comes with experience and immersion into electronic music is both good and damaging. Ignorance is bliss in some ways.

However, this "jaded-ness" means that when I see a really good act, I appreciate it on a level about 1000 above what they do.

Posted by Imagin on Dec-30-2008 08:27:

I know I sound like a broken record but this same logic applies to Hip Hop.

Most of the core listeners start out mainstream and delve deeper and deeper and start to jade themselves from records that are purely made "to be fun". Its an unfortunate thing that happens as your taste become more refined because you shut yourself out from tunes that may be commercialized but you really like.

Its up to the true music lover to keep the window open to even "bubble gum" music within their genre and what find what appeals to them.

Hell with most everyone on this board being a DJ/Producer in some form or another hell take a track that has potential, put your spin on it and show people the record it should of been all along. The beauty of a Remix.

Posted by Domesticated on Dec-30-2008 08:50:

The cycle works like this:

1. Visit your first club, usually a crappy local, take your first drugs and prepare to be amazed at it all. See your first DJ who becomes your favourite.

2. Attempt to make clubbing your life. Partially succeed.
Go clubbing every single weekend, revelling in how much fun it is and how many new people you've met.

3. Start taking an interest in track names and DJs, buying and/or downloading music.

4. Possibly get into DJing yourself and get pissed off when you realise what a two-bit hack your first/favourite DJ really is.

5. Start going to better clubs and paying outrageous amounts of money to see big name jocks.

6. You start producing.

7. 80% of the tracks you listen to seem shit by now. There's not enough bi-polarised frequency negativatisation applied to that bit-crushed, superlative sine-wave synth leading the song.

8. You laugh at those terribly uneducated dolts who don't know about music released four years ago.

9. You begin to score a few small gigs.

10. You begin to score a few larger gigs.

11. You release your first track to critical acclaim.

12. You officially have the respect of "cool people".

13. One of your new tracks makes it onto the radio. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" you scream.

14. Bookings pour in from EVERYWHERE.

15. You go swimming in a pool of cash while off your head on coke.

16. You go to rehab.

17. You go to rehab again.

18. Finally clean, you decide it's time to return to the studio.

19. You spend 6 months finding vocalists from far and wide.

20. You release an album which reaches number 1. You are officially a sell-out. When die-hard fans tell you this, you tell them to fuck off. You've been around the block; a lot longer than they have, at any rate. You're not "selling out", you're simply evolving your sound and trying to get away from your boring past. You're sick of all the stuff you used to play.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-30-2008 08:57:

PETRAN called me an "epic house fanboy" and, cheesy as it sounds, I felt I really found my place in music again when I started listening heavily to it. So it can happen. Only problem is I'm a bit more jaded about "the scene" than about a long dead subgenre.

I think one of the laws of reality is that everything always goes to shit eventually.

Posted by Sykonee on Dec-30-2008 10:24:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think one of the laws of reality is that everything always goes to shit eventually.

I thought that was only for organic matter on Earth.

Posted by Prototrance on Dec-30-2008 10:37:

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Originally posted by nefardec
When I got into dance music I was an angsty young teenager, like most people who get into dance music. I fully bought into the PLUR idea because dance music brought me both the counterculture attitude and ironically the sense of belonging that my angsty self needed growing up.

This was my utopian 'additional reason' for liking dance music. But I soon relaised it was all about the sound and nothing to do was being anti-establishment. I work for the UK Government FFS!!!

As with others I am cynical about certain genres and forever hunting down the good stuff within these, but every now and again some fluffy anjuna-trance comes along, it is highly un-original, follows all the rules and is instantly playlisted by Armin etc but I just can't help but love it still.

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