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Posted by shades_of_gray on Aug-17-2007 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
Sash - Encore Une Fois. the version most people know as the "original mix" is infact the Future Breeze remix



Learn something new everyday


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-17-2007 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
utah saints - lost vaugness (oliver lieb mix) was there ever a original? was it trance?


Of course there was an original. It was on their album "Two". And since when have the Utah Saints been anything like trance?


Posted by sljiva on Aug-17-2007 21:26:

Ralphi Rosario - You Used To Hold Me


Posted by physe on Aug-17-2007 21:39:

No sure whether or not these overshadowed the originals, but in my opinion I liked these better than the originals.

BT - Dreaming (Lucid mixes)
Salt Tank - Eugina (Michael Woods)
Feeling This Way - (Solar Stone Remix) (would prefer the dub if it was available)
DJ Tiesto - Sparkles (Airscape and Transa mixes)
Furry Phreaks - Soothe (The Chicane Mixes)
Nu NRG - Aloa P (Mr Pink mix)
Veit - Sky (Magik Muzik mix)


Others that more appropriately fit the thread:

Crazy Malamute - Free To Ride (UBI mix)
Infusion - Legacy (JXL mix)
Kuffdam & Plant - Summerdream (Paul van Dyk Mix)
Waterplanet - Introspection (John Askew mix)

What about Starkid - Crayons? Is it the original or the scribblin' mix that was the more popular one?

Feel free to agree or disagree. I just thought I'd throw some out there to contribute to the conversation.


Posted by josh rising on Aug-17-2007 22:19:

definitely gotta agree to whoever said these two...

altitude - altitude
lost witness - happiness happening
lustral - everytime

here's some more...

lost witness - red sun rising
jesselyn - omnia
moonrush - risky business
roger goode ft. tasha - in the beginning again
sandra flyn - brightness
art of trance - easter island


Posted by RebeL9 on Aug-17-2007 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
Lost Tribe - Gamemaster


Signum Remix was cained most.


No it wasnt. most DJs played the original even after Signum released their remix.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-17-2007 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
No it wasnt. most DJs played the original even after Signum released their remix.


i'd say the signum mix was biggest here in the uk, but the original was by no means forgotten & still got plenty of airing


Posted by shades_of_gray on Aug-18-2007 09:23:

Lustral - Everytime


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-18-2007 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by physe


What about Starkid - Crayons? Is it the original or the scribblin' mix that was the more popular one?


Original Reykjavik Mix


Posted by unripelemon on Aug-18-2007 16:30:

some recent remixes that overshadowed the originals:

Headstrong - The Truth (David West Remix)
Andain - Beautiful Things (Unplugged Remix)
Plastic Angel - Call the Galaxi Taxi (Martin Roth's Nu-Style remix)
Thrillseekers ft. Aruna - Waiting Here For You (Night Music Edit) ...is there an original mix of this???
RENOISE vs. Shifted Reality - In Flames (Shifted Reality Remix)


theres many...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-18-2007 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
i have never heard the original so how would i know?


You don't have to have heard the original to know the Utah Saints don't make trance.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-18-2007 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by unripelemon
RENOISE vs. Shifted Reality - In Flames (Shifted Reality Remix)


i thought that mix sucked, and i love the original. just seems to strip it of all power/warmth & make it sound boring


Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on Aug-19-2007 10:01:

Inner City - Good Life!


Posted by DJ Indus Creed on Aug-19-2007 17:33:

Arrow

Armin van Buuren Feat. Justine Suissa - Burned With Desire

I think "Rising Star Mix" is the one that is mostly played.


Posted by wotyzoid on Aug-19-2007 17:44:

I just thought of some the other day, stuff that i've never heard a dj play except a remix.

Jose Zamora & Damian DP- Transatlantic

Vinny Troia - Flow

Bt- Force of Gravity


Posted by InDeepSpace on Aug-19-2007 17:46:

Cafe Del Mar

Mostly played the threen one Mix, but when did you hear the Kid Paul mix from the original release?


Posted by ballmouse on Aug-19-2007 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
quote:
Originally posted by ReBeL9
actually all of these originals are famous.

Positron yes. Superstrings, well sort of, Rank 1's remixes (yawn) has overshadowed the original. Jens, no, Froot Loops Remix is way more known than the original. and even Marco V's remix a couple of years ago was based on it.


I didn't say Positron. I said The Orange Theme.


Posted by wolftickets on Aug-20-2007 05:51:

tiesto - theme from norefjell. it appears the original was never even released, as it's not listed anywhere on discogs. has anyone actually heard it?


Posted by wolftickets on Aug-20-2007 05:56:

the original cafe del mar actually was pressed as a promo in 1991(!), but was never released commercially either.


Posted by Nik Novo on Aug-20-2007 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by wolftickets
the original cafe del mar actually was pressed as a promo in 1991(!), but was never released commercially either.


isn't the kid paul mix the original? as far as i know, it is


Posted by wolftickets on Aug-20-2007 14:46:

i heard on another board that that's not really the original, although it's close


Posted by DJ Indus Creed on Aug-20-2007 15:29:

Arrow Song to the Siren

This one is tricky and i am not sure if it belongs in this thread.

Robert Plant - Song to the Siren
Barraka - Song to the Siren (Max Graham/Filterheadz Mix)
Lost Witness - Song to the Siren

and many more.

XXXX - Song to the Siren.

Some use:

XXXX - Here i am

I prefer the first three, depending upon the mood. I am not sure which mix of it gets whored - i am yet to hear any of it's mixes at any event.


Posted by physe on Aug-20-2007 15:31:

Found this on discogs, I don't know if it's true or not though.

Discogs Link

Harald Bluechel aka Cosmic Baby about Energy 52 and "Cafe del Mar"

Paul & me met the first time in 1989 at a club, where he did one his first DJ-sets. We became friends and started an intensive creative exchange, while working on a vision, we shared: Transforming our love & enthusiasm to the starting techno-house into truely independent, significant musical statements. Together and as solo-artists.
A great exchange of abilities began: I became his �musical teacher�, he showed me the structural elegance of aesthetical efficiency� in futuristic dance track-arrangements.

In Summer 1990, we went to Ibiza. Our favourite place to be was the �Cafe del Mar�. There, we enjoyed the evening-hours in company with beautiful music and people, who where quite different from the mainstream-club-crowds.

In Autumn 1992, Paul returned from another Ibiza-vacation. He told me about a certain piece he listened at the �Cafe del Mar�, he was electrified by. We found out, that it had been music by Wim Mertens, a composer, I highly adore.. We decided, to take his �Struggle for pleasure� as inspiration for a very special piece to create.

Between September and December we worked highly concentrated and acribicly on the composition. Our common goal: every entire detail of the piece supposed to become �excellent� - no �that`s already o.k.�- compromises to be made!

Finally in January 1993, we produced the two original versions at the studio with the engineer Jens Woynar. Afterwards we were in serious negotiations with �Eye Q�-records. In the end, they oddly realeased �Cafe del Mar� without having our permission: so, we went to cord, the record had to be withdrawn from the shops. A big dilemma for us: the piece became THE anthem right after beeing played by the DJs for the first time � the people couldn`t buy the record, though...

Since �Energy 52� is Paul`s project, the piece �Cafe del mar� however composed by the two of us, we decided, that Paul alone should be responsible for all following negotiations. Four years later (!) the Hamburg based label �Superstition� made the first �official� and authorized realease, followed by a bunch of further remix-releases, which all became highly successful. Unfortunately, the record company labeled the wrong credits in the beginning, which was corrected after some time.

The correct credits are:
-for the original versions (kid paul mix , cosmic baby`s impression): �composed & produced by Paul M. and Cosmic Baby�
-for the following releases: �composed by Paul M & Cosmic Baby�, produced by Paul M.�.


This sounds like a plausible story. I know there is a TA who is very knowledgeable on the subject and can perhaps shed some light on this (again).


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-20-2007 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
well i have never heard anything else either but the oliver lieb mix and a cj bolland mix of another track. how could i know they make whatever they make?


By reading up on the Utah Saints? They're hardly an obscure act.


Posted by Trancefxs on Aug-20-2007 17:08:

Are forgotten original mixes really so rare? From 2000-2004 acts like Dumonde, Flutlicht/Shokk, Scot Project and others were remixing a lot of tracks from usually less known artists and their remix were obviously much more spinned than the original mix, they pretty much had just the pleasure to have the honour to be mixed by them.


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