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Originally posted by B_man I got hooked on trance @ about 2001. Then I ventured into all forms of electronic music and never truly looked back -- except for some crud. Then, I never got bored of it. I'll let you in on the big tip... you ready?? I LISTEN TO MANY FORMS OF MUSIC! ...almost randomly... There's a whole world of music out there... 16 hours a day?!? Am I just a casual listener when I think that is mindnumbingly insane and even irresponsible? I like trance, but sheesh...

Pfft 16 hours a day
the hardcore took pills and stayed awake to listen for 4-7 days.

i would say that if any of you are bored of EDM go to a non dance electronic artist like amon tobin or shpongle. both incredible artists.

i'll tell ya..lately ive been tearing up George Acosta - All Rights Reserved(disk 2) great shit man

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Originally posted by piku303 i would say that if any of you are bored of EDM go to a non dance electronic artist like amon tobin or shpongle. both incredible artists.

Shpongle certainly has strong influences from non edm... but are you refering to that or that shpongle is ambienty?

Certainly a lot of the comments here forget the genre ambient.

Nobody is forgetting ambient. It's just that ambient isn't part of EDM, because it's not dance music.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Nobody is forgetting ambient. It's just that ambient isn't part of EDM, because it's not dance music.

True.



On topic, i pass through phases that i'm bored to listen to tracks that have synths and four to the flour beats all the time (be it house, techno or trance) thats why i'm listening to various types of rock music like post-rock, kraut-rock, 80s new-wave or other genres like various types of ambient or new-age. It really is a fresh break, and after a certain period, listening back to an EDM track sounds fresher to my ears.

take a listen to underworld

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Nobody is forgetting ambient. It's just that ambient isn't part of EDM, because it's not dance music.

How is it not part of EDM/electronica?

Sure it isn't dance music... but thats a bit of a literal definition.

Progressive rock uses synths but it isn't part of EDM... even if it is electronic and it is sometimes dancey.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter How is it not part of EDM/electronica? Sure it isn't dance music... but thats a bit of a literal definition. Progressive rock uses synths but it isn't part of EDM... even if it is electronic and it is sometimes dancey.

Well if what we are talking about is "EDM" then it would make sense to literally talk about electronic dance music, would it not?



I didn't see anyone use the term "Electronica" but you.

Well wikis opinion is just as valid as anyones here but anyway may as well qoute

"Electronic dance music is categorized by music journalists and fans alike as an ever-evolving plethora of named genres, styles and sub-styles. Some genres, such as techno, house, trance, electro, breakbeat, drum and bass, Italo disco, and Eurobeat (closely related to Italo disco) are primarily intended to promote dancing. Others, such as IDM, glitch and trip-hop, are more experimental and tend to be associated more with listening than dancing."

I'd say EDM encompasses about 10% of what I actually listen to anymore. It was never really a majority - and my taste for trance was exceptionally short-lived. I genre hop all over the place, and while I do still listen to a fair amount of ambient, downtempo, and synthpop, I don't listen to much stuff that would play in a club. I'll listen to an occasional funky prog house set from someone like Luke Fair or Danny Howells, but that's really about it aside from one or two sets from the promotion sub-forum here every one in awhile.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Well wikis opinion is just as valid as anyones here but anyway may as well qoute "Electronic dance music is categorized by music journalists and fans alike as an ever-evolving plethora of named genres, styles and sub-styles. Some genres, such as techno, house, trance, electro, breakbeat, drum and bass, Italo disco, and Eurobeat (closely related to Italo disco) are primarily intended to promote dancing. Others, such as IDM, glitch and trip-hop, are more experimental and tend to be associated more with listening than dancing."

I don't see Ambient in there anywhere...

And if you really just want to get into a pissing match, we could always just agree to say Ishkur is the ultimate authority and go one whatever it says at his site.

I mean if we're really just throwing words out there and all without worrying about them actually having any meaning...

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Originally posted by RJT I don't see Ambient in there anywhere... And if you really just want to get into a pissing match, we could always just agree to say Ishkur is the ultimate authority and go one whatever it says at his site. I mean if we're really just throwing words out there and all without worrying about them actually having any meaning...

Well hardly the point... my point was it mentions genres that aren't meant specifically for dancing.

And yes agreed... the meaning of EDM is irrelevent. I'm just saying when I think of edm/electronica that includes ambient/trip hop etc etc

I mean if electronic music meant everything usually including synths made for dancing that was made electronically that would include r'n'b would it not?

I've gotten a bit tired of it, so I've switched to other genres. Jivebo got it about right though.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Well hardly the point... my point was it mentions genres that aren't meant specifically for dancing. And yes agreed... the meaning of EDM is irrelevent. I'm just saying when I think of edm/electronica that includes ambient/trip hop etc etc I mean if electronic music meant everything usually including synths made for dancing that was made electronically that would include r'n'b would it not?

I was of the persuasion that most hip hop is already considered electronic music, and if we're going to assess R&B using the same measuring stick, I'm quite confident a fair bit of modern R&B would also fall under the broad category of "electronic" music.

And honestly I don't trust many things that are patent contradictions, i.e. the mentality that would lead one to do something along the lines of including the sentence "Others, such as IDM, glitch and trip-hop, are more experimental and tend to be associated more with listening than dancing." in a definition of "Electronic Dance Music."

As pedantic as making the distinction between the ideas of "EDM" and "Electronic Music" may seem, I still think it's better than just pigeonholing a bunch of stuff into a definition that really doesn't seem to make much practical sense.

I don't use the phrases "electronic music" and "EDM" interchangeably. The first is much, much wider than the second. "Electronic music" was around for decades before "EDM" even existed.

So when I say that I'm "getting bored of EDM," that doesn't mean at all that I'm getting bored of "electronic music" as a whole.

Well I said electronica... not "electronic music"

No, you said:

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter How is it not part of EDM/electronica? Sure it isn't dance music... but thats a bit of a literal definition. Progressive rock uses synths but it isn't part of EDM... even if it is electronic and it is sometimes dancey.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I don't use the phrases "electronic music" and "EDM" interchangeably. The first is much, much wider than the second. "Electronic music" was around for decades before "EDM" even existed. So when I say that I'm "getting bored of EDM," that doesn't mean at all that I'm getting bored of "electronic music" as a whole.

Exactly. When I think of electronic music, I think of everything up to and including early musique concrete.

I dance to ambient after I've taken enough diphenhydramine.

Oh, and wow, are there people who listen to trance exclusively? Or anything exclusively? I think you're doing yourself a great disservice to not branch out a bit on a regular basis. Learn what sounds you like in trance, then seek them in other music - the structure can be totally different, and it can be a genre very far removed, but there are still going to be elements of pleasing sound across all music, if you know what to look for. You've already listened to some of the most repetitive music in existence. Don't give me the 'it's not just the same sound over and over bullshit, because it is. At this point, most things have got to sound good. However, careful not to listen to shit that's too eclectic. It will just turn your prejudice outwards once again and you may scurry back into your trance hole. Mars Volta, I'm looking at you, you shitheads.

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Originally posted by RJT No, you said:

I was saying electronica/electronic dance music
not
electronica/electronic music

Doesn't matter anyway... I'll use the term electronica instead since that wouldn't include r'n'b/synth pop etc

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Doesn't matter anyway... I'll use the term electronica instead since that wouldn't include r'n'b/synth pop etc

Alright then.

Yay for blanket terms that are essentially meaningless in almost all contexts to which they would be used to describe something.

"Hey, so, what sort of music do you like?"

"Well, I listen to, ya know, music."

[awkward silence]

"Alrighty then."

Requirement to be "Electronic" music: Must be made with electrons.

Requirement to be "Electronic Dance Music": Must be made with dancing electrons.

Re: Getting bored of EDM

Someone I feel the same way, but I dont like any other genre of music nearly as much as EDM, and EMD is like a drug to me, I am always searching for that catchy song to keep me going..
Last 3 catchy Artists for me were 16 bit lolitas, Deadmau and Prydz, they like opened new doors for me this year.. Oakey/Tiesto/digweed/Sasha/Corsten did it in 90s for me..
Take a break, find some highly rated new albums, pop them in, relax and enjoy..

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Originally posted by Project-K I'm not sure if I'm just going through a phase or if I'm done for good here. I don't go to parties, I don't go to dance clubs either. Haven't touched my CDJs in months. The main reason I got into EDM in the first place was because I was tired of all the samey sounding pop-rock that plagued the airwaves, and this music provided me with fresh sounds I'd never heard before. But I've listened to so much of it in the past few years that no ammount of ingenuity or originality ever surprises me anymore - I feel like I've heard it all. Overall it's been a great learning experience. I discovered so many new sounds and musical concepts that thought me to listen to music with a fresh set of ears, but there's just nothing left for me to discover anymore. Been through pretty much every sub-genre of it. Collected all sorts of it - out of my latest batch from beatport, only about 10% I ended up really liking, the rest was below my expectations and I got bored of in a matter of days (even though I chose them carefully). There's barely any EDM left on my mp3 player save for some old mid-90s prog house tracks, an old Funk D'Void set and some LSG tracks. Lately I've been getting back into accoustic music (something I hadn't touched in ages), digging up stuff from the 70s mostly. Has anyone else gone through this? Or just long periods of being bored of EDM?

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