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Halo is a great example of what good marketing is.

RJT puts it extremely well: it's for the lowest common denominator (I think you stole that from me...). People who just started playing video games when it became the cool thing to do (last gen). This game does nothing revolutionary or evolutionary to the shooter genre yet there's actual gimps that believe this game (or series) is the be-all, end-all series of video gaming.

In reality, it's an 8/10 at best

Its a very stupid game... the first one. I had more fun playing doom2 or castle wolfenstien, thats for sure.


Why do people like to play it is beyond me, have they not touched a computer game before xbox came out?

Is it to hard for you guys to understand that maybe people just like playing on a console more? Get over yourselves

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Originally posted by bas Is it to hard for you guys to understand that maybe people just like playing on a console more? Get over yourselves

Those are the same folks who think drinking Mountain Dew is "xtreme"

It's not? SHIT!

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Originally posted by Clovis Those are the same folks who think drinking Mountain Dew is "xtreme"

so who are the pc gamers then, the wine snobs or the starbucks double tall mocha with a shot of sugar free hazelnut decaf nonfat extra hot coffee junkies?

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Originally posted by mezzir so who are the pc gamers then, the wine snobs or the starbucks double tall mocha with a shot of sugar free hazelnut decaf nonfat extra hot coffee junkies?

Beer snobs, definitely.

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Originally posted by trewqy Its a very stupid game... the first one. I had more fun playing doom2 or castle wolfenstien, thats for sure. Why do people like to play it is beyond me, have they not touched a computer game before xbox came out?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Halo is a great example of what good marketing is. RJT puts it extremely well: it's for the lowest common denominator (I think you stole that from me...). People who just started playing video games when it became the cool thing to do (last gen). This game does nothing revolutionary or evolutionary to the shooter genre yet there's actual gimps that believe this game (or series) is the be-all, end-all series of video gaming. In reality, it's an 8/10 at best

yep.

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Originally posted by bas Is it to hard for you guys to understand that maybe people just like playing on a console more? Get over yourselves

nobody here is making this a system debate. and of course people enjoy consoles more- theyre just as much fun, with a 10th as much hassle. great for having friends round, and everything just works all the time (or mostly hehe). the console market has developed some brilliant franchises, especially in fighting and survival horror.

but- that doesn't make halo a good game now does it? if people love their shooters and love to play online, i just dont understand why halo would be the poison of choice.

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look mate, you're wrong. it IS the same type of game, as i tried to explain to you. the fact that you think its hard to classify shows a sincere lack of understanding or experience. its a DM game, just slow and shit.

You didnt explain. So this is the more wordy form of 'Yes it is!' and doesnt follow any kindof logical arguement at all.

Don't start repeating yourself instead of creating some kindof arguement. I grow tiresome of such over-grown ego boosted bullshit.

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shall i get you some tissues?

Yeah, please. Im glad you managed to point out the fact that I managed to miss the textual form of crying out: Wah. Wah.

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don't confuse having little tolerance for fools with a lack of maturity, fool.

That is the lack of maturity.

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you fucking tool. any decent quake player would rape any halo player any day of the week. dont parade your ignorance. halo is a fanboy game, pure and simple. had it been a PC title it would have failed simply coz we have many better shooters already available.

I'd rather be a tool than a fanboy mate. I accept that you like other things. I even accept your blind loyalty to them. (Yeah, I said blind. I've played these games and maybe ten years ago they stood up to your arcaic views and dumb divisions between the two different types of games.) You however, spit at anyone who dare's claim their favourite game defeats yours. You are the true fanboy.

If you only react this way when somone claims Halo is God, why have you attacked me? I didnt say Halo was anything, let alone god-like. Hell, I got Halo3 yesterday and I thought the singleplayer was vastly underwhelming. Not at all being the 'Experience' Bungie claimed but I've known since the release of Halo2 they where fucking liars.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter You didnt explain. So this is the more wordy form of 'Yes it is!' and doesnt follow any kindof logical arguement at all.

look, if you cant follow the argument then i try to repeat myself in a different way so cretins can follow what im saying. please, feel free to question me about the particular facets of FPS gaming that halo shares with older and better games. especially if my original statements are lacking a concise description.

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Don't start repeating yourself instead of creating some kindof arguement. I grow tiresome of such over-grown ego boosted bullshit.

as above. and lol at the ego bullshit. thiscoming from the guy that likes to argue with people on the internet and goes by the name of the arbiter. i am quite often over the top with my love or hatred of things, but so be it we all have our cross to bear.

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That is the lack of maturity.

see, ive never seen this great book of maturity that states being mean to people is necessarily immature. but then again, on some level we would have to be pretty immature, i mean, we're arguing via forums about computer games. dammit, another cross.

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I'd rather be a tool than a fanboy mate. I accept that you like other things. I even accept your blind loyalty to them.

haha.

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(Yeah, I said blind. I've played these games and maybe ten years ago they stood up to your arcaic views and dumb divisions between the two different types of games.) You however, spit at anyone who dare's claim their favourite game defeats yours. You are the true fanboy.

first off, i would LOVE to hear your justication for your continued presumption that halo and the other unrealistic alien fragging games are somehow particularly different cos it just aint true, but please, humour me

this has nothing to do with any of the games that i love, this has only to do with one particular game i think is seriously overated. this has nothing to do with me being a "fan" of any of the games mentioned.

once upon a time, there was a little boy who, in 1981, was playing a primitive paddle-tennis game you could plug into the tv and run on channel 12. before long this upper middle class child was lucky enough to have a commodore 128 brought into the house and when he was babysat after school he could get his hands on an atari 2600.

at school he played text adventures on the BBCs and later mac classics.

somehow, he managed to beg, cheat and steal enough $$ for his very own system, the trusty sega master system. meanwhile an SX-25 sat in the family's study, but that was only played on when nobody was home and the father wasn't watching.

never able to afford an amiga, he made use of his neighbour's 500 whilst upgrading to a mega drive, and would go to town on his best friend's snes.

that neighbour sold their amiga 500, and some new and beaut PC replaced it, with none other than wolfenstein 3d. well then, that fucking mega drive just had to go!

working shitty night hours at his local woolworths supermarket chain, the young lad was eventually able to purchase his 486DX2-66. ID software was able to make doom by the time the poor child could afford the new toy. glorious.

when the sega saturn started to die, the kid picked one up for a song and bought shitloads of cheap games for it, because his 486 was starting to look a little long in the tooth and he needed something to tide him over because his thirst was large.

486DX2-66 => P3-450 => p3-866 => p4-2.4 => C2D 6400. and picked up a playstation during that time to play some of the old classics.

yeah, he might've been a fanboy, but he was a fan of gaming.

one day he played a game the world was raving about and was thoroughly disappointed. now he shares his mostly immodest, arrogant and often rude "26ish-years-judging-the-industry-viewpoint" about some titles that don't stand up to his deeply-ingrained, lofty standards.

but he, and all the games that he has played lived happily ever after

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look, if you cant follow the argument then i try to repeat myself in a different way so cretins can follow what im saying. please, feel free to question me about the particular facets of FPS gaming that halo shares with older and better games. especially if my original statements are lacking a concise description.

Firstly, could you point out were it was you made this magical explanation? Secondly, when you make a claim you back it up. It isnt up to me to poke holes through an arguement that only half exists.

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thiscoming from the guy that likes to argue with people on the internet and goes by the name of the arbiter.

Argueing on the internet does not mean I have a massive ego, just opinions that I defend from other people who actually have egos. My screen name is just that, a screen name.

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first off, i would LOVE to hear your justication for your continued presumption that halo and the other unrealistic alien fragging games are somehow particularly different cos it just aint true, but please, humour me

Let me explain it to you, seeying as games being different from eachother is obviously such a wacky idea. Halo and Quake don't play the same. Infact, they play so differently and the concept behind them so different that they arnt even the same class of game besides the generalisation of an FPS. Them simply being FPS games does not make them the same type of game. If I was to go a step further to iterate my point I could ask you why Quake and Rainbowsix are the same. Obviously they arnt in the same way Halo isnt the same type of game. It's another type of game, incomparable thanks to the completely different game dynamics. This is at the very core of difference between games and refusing to acknowledge it doenst make it false.

My gaming experience is not as vast as yours, but your experience spans into antoher era, an era that is rapidly fading into ancient history and its influences being rapidly forgotten. I come from the Doom age, which is sufficient experience. I've been Hardcore right from the start and competitive gaming is in the very essence of my existance. Dont make the mistake of assuming I have no knowledge or that I dont know my shit, especially when it comes to PC games. I know what your talking about, but fact is I dont agree withit on any level.

lol.

That my sex face

That picture was apparently taken at a Chicago GameStop.

Midwest Halo gimps FTW, I guess.

^ Hahahha holy crap!

So I walk into EB today pick up some classics, and the store is full of boxes everyone looks pissed so I go and talk to my manager. For some reason they sent us so much shit merchandise for this joke of a franchise. I look through the boxes fuck magnets, medal replicas, key chains, shirts not to mention all these shit figurines( not to even mention how grossly overpriced they were). I stand in awe and yell out what "lame ass fucking nerd would buy this shit!!" My manager starts laughing so I turn around there is some dwit that looks exactly like that kid in the picture and it looks like he is about to cry lulz.

edit: If someone chopped a Search for Sunrise cd in that kids hand I wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

A Master Chief action figure would be pretty sweet. How much was it and do YOU work at an EB?

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Originally posted by bas A Master Chief action figure would be pretty sweet. How much was it and do YOU work at an EB?

They aren't action figures and about the size of a lego (20 bucks)

Yup took it as a side job for the discount work like 5 hours a week lol.

Oh that's lame, I wouldn't spend more than 10 bucks on one

Yeah I have a weird action figure collection. Not many people have an action figure of a space marine from Quake 3

That my sex face

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Firstly, could you point out were it was you made this magical explanation? Secondly, when you make a claim you back it up. It isnt up to me to poke holes through an arguement that only half exists.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh yeah sorry. my mistake. that's why the extreme "tactical" nature of this shooter had deathmatch and team deathmatch as 50% of its multiplayer modes (at least, memory is a bit foggy). tactical shooter don't give the games airs it doesn't deserve. halo is an unrealistic shooter played in a deathmatch fashion, circle strafing included. so a comparison to any other unrealistic shooter where you circle strafe aliens is a completely valid point.

so we have, deathmatch, team deathmatch and capture the flag. ooh! tactical!

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Argueing on the internet does not mean I have a massive ego, just opinions that I defend from other people who actually have egos. My screen name is just that, a screen name.

only people with egos argue on the internet imo

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Let me explain it to you, seeying as games being different from eachother is obviously such a wacky idea. Halo and Quake don't play the same. Infact, they play so differently and the concept behind them so different that they arnt even the same class of game besides the generalisation of an FPS. Them simply being FPS games does not make them the same type of game. If I was to go a step further to iterate my point I could ask you why Quake and Rainbowsix are the same. Obviously they arnt in the same way Halo isnt the same type of game. It's another type of game, incomparable thanks to the completely different game dynamics. This is at the very core of difference between games and refusing to acknowledge it doenst make it false.

yes, rainbow six and quake are certainly different. but no, halo and the other unrealistic shooters really are not, for reasons i have posted again ^^. having played my fair share of multiplayer halo i contend that it plays exactly the same as the others of its ilk, just much worse, slow, less skillful and boring. rainbow six et al is also very slow, but hardly boring because of its more lethal dynamic. again, im not calling them the same simply because theyre both FPSs- that would be silly

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Originally posted by The Arbiter My gaming experience is not as vast as yours, but your experience spans into antoher era, an era that is rapidly fading into ancient history and its influences being rapidly forgotten. I come from the Doom age, which is sufficient experience. I've been Hardcore right from the start and competitive gaming is in the very essence of my existance. Dont make the mistake of assuming I have no knowledge or that I dont know my shit, especially when it comes to PC games. I know what your talking about, but fact is I dont agree withit on any level.

oh, i didnt post my life history to say i know more than you (or anyone else) just pointing out that im not a fanboy, im not here to champion any system (or game) over another, to illustrate that i just love gaming, on all systems, and all types of games. just that halo, given its colossal popularity, isn't all its cracked up to be, and wouldn't have been nearly as famous had it existed primarily on another format

anywayz, i'll try and be nicer next time i yell at you. but "trying" doesnt mean "succeeding"

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so we have, deathmatch, team deathmatch and capture the flag. ooh! tactical

Eh? A game is more than it's gamemodes.

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only people with egos argue on the internet imo

Hairy muff. I have an ego, I can live with that.

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yes, rainbow six and quake are certainly different. but no, halo and the other unrealistic shooters really are not, for reasons i have posted again ^^. having played my fair share of multiplayer halo i contend that it plays exactly the same as the others of its ilk, just much worse, slow, less skillful and boring. rainbow six et al is also very slow, but hardly boring because of its more lethal dynamic. again, im not calling them the same simply because theyre both FPSs- that would be silly

Problem is you havnt made any detailed explanation to back up the claim Halo and Quake are somehow from the same ilk.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Problem is you havnt made any detailed explanation to back up the claim Halo and Quake are somehow from the same ilk.

im not sure how many more times i have to paste this?

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halo is an unrealistic shooter played in a deathmatch fashion, circle strafing included. so a comparison to any other unrealistic shooter where you circle strafe aliens is a completely valid point.

halo certainly isnt any more "tactical". its just slower- the main reason being to be more readily playable on a controller. unless an unrealistic shooter does something particularly special (say, bioshock or deus ex) then theyre (more or less) in the same basket.

you, on the other hand, havent provided a single reason to justify calling them incomparable.

I've said a game being slower isnt the only different dynamic. The weapons system is completeley different, the damagae/health system is completely different and the only similarity is multiplayer map design and even than, only the smaller maps. Not even mentioning vehichles and grenades.

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Originally posted by Taranis Am I pretty much the only person in the world who's never played Halo?

I never ever , EVA played that game. I don't have any consoloe, am more a pc guy.

Played gear of wars once @ a friend's house. Was fun, but i prefer PC titles.

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