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Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-05-2007 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
for those of you that dont know, the amish are actually given a 1yr period where they can leave the amish life and go into the city. they can do as they wish, doesnt matter what they do, for this one year period. once the time is up they must choose their new life or their former life. if they choose the new life, they are basically shunned, lose their whole family, etc.


This is not exactly correct. The Amish, along with all the Anabaptist faiths, believe that one must make an informed choice with regard to their religious life. They believe that one must be an adult, capable of reason, before they have the ability to choose whether or not to live a life of faith. This is one of the strongest tennents of the Anabaptist faiths. Childeren are not baptised, only adults... in truth one cannot be Amish/Mennonite/Reformed/etc. unless they have made a choice to join the church. Generally, when mennonite and amish childeren are in their mid teens they will explore the secular world, as this is necessary in order to decide whether or not their traditional life is really what they want. This could last weeks, months, or years. A friend of my grandmother (she grew up in Mennonite country and attended an Old Order school) had one son who waited until he was 32 to join the church. Approximately 85% of childeren born to Amish or Old Order Mennonite parents will eventually join the church, another 10% (approx) will join less stringent Anabaptist faiths.

FYI, the whole shunning thing is rare; however, Amish and Old Order Mennonites are usually very reserved and cautious around outsiders. They will allow limited contact but those that leave are never really members of the community again.


Posted by wizniz on Oct-05-2007 14:03:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
just thought i should mention a mennonite d00d checked me out today..


lol wut? you live in canada





oh... and this one amish kid i knew who was doing the exploration was the biggest fucking cokehead i ever met before


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-05-2007 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
This is not exactly correct. The Amish, along with all the Anabaptist faiths, believe that one must make an informed choice with regard to their religious life. They believe that one must be an adult, capable of reason, before they have the ability to choose whether or not to live a life of faith. This is one of the strongest tennents of the Anabaptist faiths. Childeren are not baptised, only adults... in truth one cannot be Amish/Mennonite/Reformed/etc. unless they have made a choice to join the church. Generally, when mennonite and amish childeren are in their mid teens they will explore the secular world, as this is necessary in order to decide whether or not their traditional life is really what they want. This could last weeks, months, or years. A friend of my grandmother (she grew up in Mennonite country and attended an Old Order school) had one son who waited until he was 32 to join the church. Approximately 85% of childeren born to Amish or Old Order Mennonite parents will eventually join the church, another 10% (approx) will join less stringent Anabaptist faiths.

FYI, the whole shunning thing is rare; however, Amish and Old Order Mennonites are usually very reserved and cautious around outsiders. They will allow limited contact but those that leave are never really members of the community again.

ahh well then the people that were on that amish in the city show explained it a bit different. they said they had a year.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-05-2007 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
lol wut? you live in canada


There are very large Mennonite, Amish, and Dukonite communities in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Ontario. The area I live (Waterloo Ontario) is the largest Mennonite communitee outside of PA.

edit... you do realize this is an international religion, right... it started in Germany. You'll find Mennonites in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Canada, USA, and Mexico.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-05-2007 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
ahh well then the people that were on that amish in the city show explained it a bit different. they said they had a year.


That could be, however, there is no time limit.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-05-2007 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There are very large Mennonite, Amish, and Dukonite communities in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Ontario. The area I live (Waterloo Ontario) is the largest Mennonite communitee outside of PA.

edit... you do realize this is an international religion, right... it started in Germany. You'll find Mennonites in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Canada, USA, and Mexico.

dude since your in waterloo...when im in TO we should meet up. you and mrs hazard and i.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That could be, however, there is no time limit.

yeah. either way it makes it much more human knowing that they have this period to decide if it is for them or not. makes you realize they are more understanding than your lead to believe.


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