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Posted by The_G0dfather on Oct-10-2007 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
So does this mean we can get DJ's we don't like disqualified by voting for them lots of times?



Posted by Gauss on Oct-10-2007 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
As if the myspace whoring wasn't bad enough.

+1


Posted by sensorium on Oct-10-2007 18:18:

Does anyone have DJ Tiesmi sets?


Posted by THE_Chris on Oct-10-2007 18:32:

Well this thread has made my evening Indisputable proof of the trashy nature of DJMag.


Posted by Gauss on Oct-10-2007 18:33:

Results 1 - 70 of 70 for dj tiesmi. (0.66 seconds)

Did you mean: dj tiesto


Posted by raunchy on Oct-10-2007 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Well this thread has made my evening Indisputable proof of the trashy nature of DJMag.


It reeks of tabloid journalism to me.
Way to bring credibility to the mag.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by raunchy
It reeks of tabloid journalism to me.
Way to bring credibility to the mag.


Come now, like there was ever a chance of that in the first place?


Posted by the_gamemaster on Oct-10-2007 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss


Did you mean: dj tiesto



No i believe tiesmi was the name of the chinese DJ implicated in the DJ mag scandal.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
No i believe tiesmi was the name of the chinese DJ implicated in the DJ mag scandal.




I think those were his Google results


Posted by idoru on Oct-10-2007 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
No i believe tiesmi was the name of the chinese DJ implicated in the DJ mag scandal.



Posted by the_gamemaster on Oct-10-2007 19:10:

O yeah, right. Why would he put that though?


Posted by fury on Oct-10-2007 19:11:

Whooooooooooooooooooooooosh


Posted by raunchy on Oct-10-2007 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Come now, like there was ever a chance of that in the first place?


DJ Mags clearly trying to clean up their mags image.

But it's like a whore trying to pretend she's a virgin.

They have whored their magazine's poll for years to charge more for ads.

It's embarrassing.


Posted by nefardec on Oct-10-2007 19:19:

to come;

DJ mag´s top cheaters list, as a way of trying to save face, by publicizing the circus they have created.

Sort of like when you do something really embarrassing and try to laugh it off with everyone else, but no matter how much you try to be cool about it they think you are lame.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec

Sort of like when you do something really embarrassing and try to laugh it off with everyone else, but no matter how much you try to be cool about it they think you are lame.


Bingo.


Posted by Nik Novo on Oct-10-2007 19:36:


Posted by Zombie0729 on Oct-10-2007 19:39:

the reality is guys the dj mag poll does matter. i'm sorry, i understand the movement and the thought process to discredit such a stupid idea for a poll and to rank something so objective but people love it... ESPECIALLY marketing people.

imagine being the p.r. person to the #1 DJ in the world... what an easy selling point that is.

and unfortunatly everyone in the business depends on the marketability of DJ's... 'Come to Pacha this week and see the #3 DJ in the world.'

it will only get bigger (and that's proven, 325,000 votes this year - holy cow) so you can keep fighting it but it will always be there and until you get past all the enormous amount of $$ these DJ's and agencies spend on marketing will the MUSIC side of the music BUSINESS emerge.

anyways to the people that matter, this discredit to DJ Dan and CL does matter.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 19:43:

No one is saying the list doesn't 'matter from a purely marketing point of view (in fact I've said it in this very thread, many, many times), but it's hardly a list of the top 100 DJ's in the world, and as such, DJ Mag's being upset at CL and Dan is absolutely unwarranted, because no one other than DJ Mag can be blamed for creating a system which essentially invited exploitation.

Show of hands - how many of you actually think this is going to affect Dan and CL's careers in some profound sense for years to come?


Posted by Yohan on Oct-10-2007 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Maybe Andy Hunter would still be around. Even then I'm not sure.

Huh? What's this story?


Posted by nefardec on Oct-10-2007 19:46:

well, i think the point that people want to make is that it is sad that dance music be reduced to the whims of marketing people, and that number 3 deejay has to be number three deejay rather than John van Smith with a unique musical presence that should be all the marketing he needs. Marketing implies a product is being sold, and products being sold implies consumption.

The culture of consumption and a productive, positive, progressive culture are at odds with one another.


The magazine is a joke because it shouldn´t be about marketing in the first place, but rather substance.



I grew up as the son of a graphic designer and advertising account executive and I do my own freelance advertising and design, so I am extremely suspicious and cynical about marketing. It´s nearly always bullshit.

All this hype, fiction, copywriting, the language of the design, the faces, the poses, the haircuts, everything is all bullshit.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Oct-10-2007 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Sort of like when you do something really embarrassing and try to laugh it off with everyone else, but no matter how much you try to be cool about it they think you are lame.
quote:
But it's like a whore trying to pretend she's a virgin.


LMFAO!!

Both are great examples.

I've already stated my thoughts on CL & Dan. We make a small percentage of party goers. I can guarantee if any of these folks play somewhere for WMC.. you will see no difference in crowd size.

They never really had that HUGE of a fan base to begin with.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Huh? What's this story?


Lol, I don't know, seems like he could be a good guy.


Posted by UWM on Oct-10-2007 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
the only people voting in these polls should be DJs, Promoters, Club Owners.


Err ... what?


Posted by idoru on Oct-10-2007 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
the reality is guys the dj mag poll does matter. i'm sorry, i understand the movement and the thought process to discredit such a stupid idea for a poll and to rank something so objective but people love it... ESPECIALLY marketing people.

imagine being the p.r. person to the #1 DJ in the world... what an easy selling point that is.

and unfortunatly everyone in the business depends on the marketability of DJ's... 'Come to Pacha this week and see the #3 DJ in the world.'

it will only get bigger (and that's proven, 325,000 votes this year - holy cow) so you can keep fighting it but it will always be there and until you get past all the enormous amount of $$ these DJ's and agencies spend on marketing will the MUSIC side of the music BUSINESS emerge.


Thank you for describing exactly why it shouldn't exist.

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
No one is saying the list doesn't 'matter from a purely marketing point of view (in fact I've said it in this very thread, many, many times), but it's hardly a list of the top 100 DJ's in the world, and as such, DJ Mag's being upset at CL and Dan is absolutely unwarranted, because no one other than DJ Mag can be blamed for creating a system which essentially invited exploitation.

Show of hands - how many of you actually think this is going to affect Dan and CL's careers in some profound sense for years to come?



*keeps hands down*


Posted by Igaryok on Oct-10-2007 19:59:

I remember when people were getting their panites in a bunch when somebody questioned Dj Dan's standing.


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