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Posted by Krypton on Oct-17-2007 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Actually, I was making fun of God more than anything. More specifically, I was making fun of the notion people seem to harbour where the 'reality' of things (because there is only 1 unifying perspective to some people)is fabricated by one judgmental entity who observes how each individual reacts to the reality He has established, then either rewards or punishes them from there. All the while operating under the illusion that His great gift to us was free will. Monotono-theism, anybody?

I don't know where you're getting the whole Xtianity thing from though.


I dunno, I'm a little baked..

But, hey, it's all just my opinion. I don't want to turn this into a PDD debate..


Posted by Omega_M on Oct-17-2007 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I dunno, I'm a little baked...


this is infact the ideal state to ponder about God and his Universe.


Posted by CooLKiD on Oct-17-2007 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ikhouvanu
Nobody knows how the universe was created, we probably never will.
probably

do you actually think that we have a chance to figure this out?


Posted by occrider on Oct-17-2007 05:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
In my opinion, a super intelligence, obviously supernatural and outside space and time as we know it, created the universe and fine tuned the physics of it as if constructing the hardware of a computer and all the software inside of it.


quote:

I am agnostic



Posted by Yohan on Oct-17-2007 05:56:

the flying spaghetti monster made the universe


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-17-2007 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
the flying spaghetti monster made the universe


Oh hell no, I'm not getting fooled by that one again.


Posted by echosystm on Oct-17-2007 08:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Oh hell no, I'm not getting fooled by that one again.


the flying spaghetti monster DIDN'T make the universe?!

motherfvckers.


Posted by Fledz on Oct-17-2007 08:49:

Why exactly is it a monster?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-17-2007 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Why exactly is it a monster?




well, what the fuck do you think it looks like!?


Posted by Lilith on Oct-17-2007 08:54:

nom nom nom!


Posted by echosystm on Oct-17-2007 08:55:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN


well, what the fuck do you think it looks like!?


this looks like a hairy scrotum with eyes

did a hairy scrotum with eyes create the universe?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-17-2007 09:37:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
this looks like a hairy scrotum with eyes

did a hairy scrotum with eyes create the universe?


thats what most americans think!


Posted by Blake on Oct-17-2007 10:03:

Re: Out of curiosity what made the universe ???

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
The question on universe is making me go crazy. Out of NOTHING how was SOMETHING created that ultimately gave birth to such huge planets and us. Have you ever pondered about the void, the null and then us human beings ?? Think as a distant planet, what do you consider?


Modern day scientists feel (and have proof to within something like > 97% accuracy) that the universe was originally an incredibly condensed mass of energy, about the size of a marble that existed for sometime before it became unstable and exploded, unleashing massive amounts of matter and energy into timespace (the big bang, no?). This made for the beginnings of the universe we now know. If one views the universe using an infrared telescope, one can see the massive, and incredibly brighly colored remnants of energy released by this explosion. It essentially looks like a huge streak of fire which stretches across the universe, spanning from its center (just look for google images).

As far as the small structure of condensed energy that the universe once was, scientists believe it must have arisen out of dark matter (which is what over 70% of the universe is composed of). Unfortunately, scientists are still working on figuring out exactly what dark matter is and what its nature is.

I hope this helps.

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If you were looking for something a bit more religious then the closest I can give you is...
Assuming that:
God = a conscious entity, and God is encompassed by all things and therefore equivalent to/synonymous to the universe itself, then the universe could have possibly created itself in 4th dimensional hyperspace. Feel free to look up the various dimensions of hyperspace. The 4th one deals with time.

Good luck on your search for an answer.


Posted by echosystm on Oct-17-2007 10:21:

...and techno viking created that marble.

ffs guys, the answers are right infront of you.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-17-2007 10:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
nom nom nom!



apparently he doesn't eat cookies anymore, because cookies are a "sometimes food"

thats just gay


Posted by Fledz on Oct-17-2007 10:38:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
this looks like a hairy scrotum with eyes

did a hairy scrotum with eyes create the universe?


Not very "monstery"


Posted by Lilith on Oct-17-2007 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
apparently he doesn't eat cookies anymore, because cookies are a "sometimes food"


...those evil politically correct people got Cookie monster?
*childhood memories die*

quote:
thats just gay

So am I, doesn't mean I agree with it!


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-17-2007 10:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith

...those evil politically correct people got Cookie monster?
*childhood memories die*


So am I, doesn't mean I agree with it!


oh yeah, apparently theres a character with 2 fathers.
And in South Africa theres a character with AIDS.

Anyone else thinking Sesame Street is starting to get a little heavy?





edit: by the way I'm not insinuating that homosexuality is wrong, got no probs with it.

edited again: the AIDS character isn't gay as far as I know


Posted by echosystm on Oct-17-2007 11:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
oh yeah, apparently theres a character with 2 fathers.
And in South Africa theres a character with AIDS.


ROFL.

youtube vids, kgo


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-17-2007 11:07:

oh yeah, but Elmo still talks in baby talk.

If they are so hell bent on educating kids on homosexuality, obesity and AIDS shouldn't they first make an effort in teaching proper English?


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-17-2007 11:51:

I think I offended Lillith


Posted by echosystm on Oct-17-2007 12:20:

i think you're pretending to care


Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-17-2007 18:44:

Surely religion and god is man made and I personally don't give a rat's ass to those who say god made the universe.

Adding to this topic, the astrologist can correctly predict the future or determine one's behavior from the science of those 12 or 13 planets and the maths based right off your date of birth, time and location of birth. Does our existence some how related to the planetary position etc?

The Mayans, the greeks, the hindus have reference to more than 9 planets centuries before they were discovered and named by Galileo and likes. They have made all their temples, and rituals according to the position of the planets as they had known how it could affect them. Surely we have lost this science but in case if you ever get a chance to meet a good astrologist you'd understand what I mean. They could correctly predict and tell you your behavior.




Regarding the black hole and dark energy, how i wish if i could know how this was created out of void.

Guess it's time to sleep


Posted by Omega_M on Oct-17-2007 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Adding to this topic, the astrologist can correctly predict the future or determine one's behavior from the science of those 12 or 13 planets and the maths based right off your date of birth, time and location of birth. Does our existence some how related to the planetary position etc?

The Mayans, the greeks, the hindus have reference to more than 9 planets centuries before they were discovered and named by Galileo and likes.


I think you are way off as far as the specifics are concerned. The nine planets (nav graha) of Hindu astrology are not the actual 9 planets as we know them today. They comprise of 5 observable planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the Sun, the Moon and the two lunar nodes (Rahu and Ketu). Then there are the 12 "houses" which is a rather abstract concept and then there are the 12 zodiac signs.


Posted by Fledz on Oct-18-2007 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Surely religion and god is man made and I personally don't give a rat's ass to those who say god made the universe.

Adding to this topic, the astrologist can correctly predict the future or determine one's behavior from the science of those 12 or 13 planets and the maths based right off your date of birth, time and location of birth. Does our existence some how related to the planetary position etc?



Hold on a minute. You actively reject any notion of any sort of higher power, yet you believe in Astrology?

LMFAO!


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